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VP Rumors and Rumblings (AKA Obama/Biden)

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UPDATE: 12:00 PST: Not that it is really breaking news anymore, but it’s now up on the Obama web site

UPDATE #2: 9:45 PST: CNN is now officially reporting Biden has been offered the spot on the ticket. They cannot cite the official sources but the reporter indicates these are ‘very very solid sources’ that have confirmed Biden will be the nominee. So much for surprises (unless the morning brings a real shock). Associated Press, Fox News and ABC news are also confirming these reports.

Too bad that the Obama camp did so well in keeping things quiet and then let it break this badly (past midnight on the east coast is not what they wanted).

As a side-note, it is possible his son Beau will succeed him in the Senate, Beau is Attorney General of Delaware though he is scheduled to deploy to Iraq with the JAG corps soon.

UPDATE: 8:50 PST: CNN is reporting that Clinton has been told that she is not the pick and ABC news has reported that the Secret Service is being dispatched to Senator Biden’s home in Delaware. Reports also say the Senator has not been seen today (unlike the last few days where he was in and out of the house) and that his extended family is gathering.

Again, I would not be shocked if this is a head fake but it does seem to be panning out.

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According to the Obama campaign they will not send text messages naming his VP pick until sometime tomorrow morning, reportedly around 10am eastern/7am pacific time. So it does look like they will hold off until tomorrow.

However both CNN and Fox (MSNBC is out for the Olympics) are reporting that both Tim Kaine and Evan Bayh have been told they are out of the running. CNN is saying they have officially confirmed both men are out while Fox and other networks are still holding back making a final statement.

Of course all of this could be a head fake by the Obama campaign to keep everyone guessing but it is looking more like the Biden rumors may be true. I personally did not think that they would go with Biden simply because of his penchant for gaffes and also because announcing someone new would be a nice surprise for the media.

  • kritt11
    I thought Biden would be Obama's pick for Secretary of State or Defense because of his years of expertise.
  • kritt11
    I personally think Obama should have picked Jim Webb-- or Sen Clinton for a stronger ticket.
  • StockBoySF
    (Comment after the second update.)

    "CNN is now officially reporting Biden has been offered the spot on the ticket. They cannot cite the official sources but the reporter indicates these are ‘very very solid sources’ that have confirmed Biden will be the nominee."

    No doubt those "official sources" are ex-Hillaryites who leaked stuff from her campaign to the press and are now working for Obama.... snark, snark, snark, snark.... :)

    My money is on Biden (and has been the last few days), but I would have supported Hillary as veep.
  • StockBoySF
    My God! I went to Wikipedia and the entry on there for Joe Biden already has him as the choice as VP for Obama.... :)

    Wikipedia- faster than some news organizations!
  • StockBoySF
    I love it!

    Joe is right!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbOa989IRYw

    As an aside and something Biden apparently advocates.... tt will be interesting to see if we start hearing more about partitioning in Iraq and whether it is before the election, or after. I've long supported this as an option and with Joe's foreign policy credentials, it now has the ability to grow some legs.

    It also looks like Biden was right on a brewing Georgia/Russia conflict (back in Nov. of 2007). Seems that he has a great grasp of foreign issues:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDi2boRONs4

    Last but not least.. Pakistan (not just on the nuke issue but on Pakistan's stability)...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWZm_puicBQ

    I'm done and have a good night!
  • RATS! Now I owe people BBQ and all the trimmings. Curse you Obama!!
  • kritt11
    Well its better than picking Gov Kaine or Evan Bayh- neither added much to the ticket. Kaine is another newbie with no foreign policy experience, and Bayh- is just too bland and forgettable.
  • DLS
    In my view (considering the effect on the Obama campaign and its consequent changes in prospects for success in November), Biden was the strongest, followed by Clinton (the utilitarian as well as reverse-sexism appeal: the uncommitted Clinton voters still need to be reckoned with; Obama is likely accepting the risk of defection to McCain because this risk is likely quite low), followed by Kaine. Someone like Sibelius was a fan of the play-pen crowd but wasn't strong at all.

    It's the Obama campaign (because Obama is clearly the leader) whose VP choice was the most intriguing and lefty radio here in Detroit has been vigorous in its speculation and opinions about the various choices Obama has had for VP, and will likely be lively next week, not just this weekend, now that the choice has been made. No VP candidate had unanimous support and the discussions so far have been quite interesting. (I wonder given Biden's rep for "remarks" that such talk about McCain will suddenly subside. I don't find either candidate to fail on this account, incidentally. Nor did Obama insofar as Biden is concerned.)

    OK, libs and Dems. Go ahead and be ebullient (think "bubbly"), even you, T-Steel, because Obama did do well with his choice, probably the best choice possible: resolves foreign policy concerns (and exploits Iraq), had strong intellectual respect as a presidential candidate, and so on. The Obama campaign is on firm footing.

    Now it's up to McCain to choose somebody who will -- hopefully, compensate for McCain's weaknesses. (McCain is effectively on the defensive in this campaign!) Lefty talk radio hasn't addressed McCain's VP choices at all. (It may not matter.)
  • DLS
    "Jim Webb"

    Secretary of Defense?

    "Sen Clinton"

    Secretary of ... State?
  • Webb as Sec Def is unlikely given his relative newness to the Senate, I would see someone more experienced for the post
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