Comments on: Quote of the Day: Is History Repeating Itself For The Democrats? http://themoderatevoice.com/21947/quote-of-the-day-is-history-repeating-itself-for-the-democrats/ An Internet hub with domestic and international news, analysis, original reporting, and popular features from the left, center, indies, centrists, moderates, and right Mon, 28 May 2012 16:10:01 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: DLS http://themoderatevoice.com/21947/quote-of-the-day-is-history-repeating-itself-for-the-democrats/comment-page-1/#comment-131591 DLS Thu, 21 Aug 2008 22:45:49 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/at-tmv/quote-of-the-day/21947/quote-of-the-day-is-history-repeating-itself-for-the-democrats/#comment-131591 Actually, Ayers is the guy back in the news these days.<br><br><a href="http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/08/21/obamas-ties-to-ayers-come-up-again/">http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/08/21/obamas...</a> Actually, Ayers is the guy back in the news these days.

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/08/21/obamas…

]]> By: jwest http://themoderatevoice.com/21947/quote-of-the-day-is-history-repeating-itself-for-the-democrats/comment-page-1/#comment-131590 jwest Thu, 21 Aug 2008 20:48:10 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/at-tmv/quote-of-the-day/21947/quote-of-the-day-is-history-repeating-itself-for-the-democrats/#comment-131590 Elrod……Elrod…….poor, deluded Elrod……..<br><br>The Reverend Wright may have played out on Hardball and Countdown, but to the people who will swing this election, he is brand, spanking new.<br><br>Of course the media will try to spike the story, just as they did with the Swift Boat news. But just as before, they won’t be able to hold it back. Elrod……Elrod…….poor, deluded Elrod……..

The Reverend Wright may have played out on Hardball and Countdown, but to the people who will swing this election, he is brand, spanking new.

Of course the media will try to spike the story, just as they did with the Swift Boat news. But just as before, they won’t be able to hold it back.

]]> By: elrod http://themoderatevoice.com/21947/quote-of-the-day-is-history-repeating-itself-for-the-democrats/comment-page-1/#comment-131589 elrod Thu, 21 Aug 2008 20:00:58 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/at-tmv/quote-of-the-day/21947/quote-of-the-day-is-history-repeating-itself-for-the-democrats/#comment-131589 Jwest,<br>The Rev. Wright stuff has already played through the media. In order for a negative ad to work, it has to have an element of "I didn't even know that about him" quality. Same with the Ayers stuff. It just rallies the already committed. <br><br>And that's also why the latest "I don't know how many houses I own" gaffe is going to hurt McCain a lot. There are many Americans who know McCain is not very strong on the economy but do not realize just how rich he is. With McCain's admission, Obama is pushing hard, connecting McCain's ignorance of his own wealth to his ignorance of the American economy. The ad is already up and running and will dominate the coverage for a while. The VP pick will push it too. Jwest,
The Rev. Wright stuff has already played through the media. In order for a negative ad to work, it has to have an element of “I didn't even know that about him” quality. Same with the Ayers stuff. It just rallies the already committed.

And that's also why the latest “I don't know how many houses I own” gaffe is going to hurt McCain a lot. There are many Americans who know McCain is not very strong on the economy but do not realize just how rich he is. With McCain's admission, Obama is pushing hard, connecting McCain's ignorance of his own wealth to his ignorance of the American economy. The ad is already up and running and will dominate the coverage for a while. The VP pick will push it too.

]]> By: jwest http://themoderatevoice.com/21947/quote-of-the-day-is-history-repeating-itself-for-the-democrats/comment-page-1/#comment-131588 jwest Thu, 21 Aug 2008 17:54:26 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/at-tmv/quote-of-the-day/21947/quote-of-the-day-is-history-repeating-itself-for-the-democrats/#comment-131588 Just found this article on negative ads by a blogger I’ve never read before.<br><br>It relays the idea better than my comment above (and has a flowchart!).<br><br><a href="http://sweasel.com/archives/1490">http://sweasel.com/archives/1490</a> Just found this article on negative ads by a blogger I’ve never read before.

It relays the idea better than my comment above (and has a flowchart!).

http://sweasel.com/archives/1490

]]> By: jwest http://themoderatevoice.com/21947/quote-of-the-day-is-history-repeating-itself-for-the-democrats/comment-page-1/#comment-131586 jwest Thu, 21 Aug 2008 17:22:54 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/at-tmv/quote-of-the-day/21947/quote-of-the-day-is-history-repeating-itself-for-the-democrats/#comment-131586 The GOP has not gone negative yet – not until the Democrat convention is over and Obama is officially the candidate.<br><br>Right after it’s impossible for the super delegates to change their minds, the floodgates will open with non-stop Reverend Wright ads. The 20% of the electorate who will actually decide this election have never heard of him, but that situation will change.<br><br>“Negative” ads only work when the assertions are true. When the DNC and NAACP ran ads saying that “black churches will burn” and that somehow George Bush was responsible for the dragging death of a black man, they were ineffective because they were so obviously false. The Swift Boat ads hurt Kerry because most people knew instinctively that they were true.<br><br>The Chickens are coming home to Roost. The GOP has not gone negative yet – not until the Democrat convention is over and Obama is officially the candidate.

Right after it’s impossible for the super delegates to change their minds, the floodgates will open with non-stop Reverend Wright ads. The 20% of the electorate who will actually decide this election have never heard of him, but that situation will change.

“Negative” ads only work when the assertions are true. When the DNC and NAACP ran ads saying that “black churches will burn” and that somehow George Bush was responsible for the dragging death of a black man, they were ineffective because they were so obviously false. The Swift Boat ads hurt Kerry because most people knew instinctively that they were true.

The Chickens are coming home to Roost.

]]> By: Kathryn http://themoderatevoice.com/21947/quote-of-the-day-is-history-repeating-itself-for-the-democrats/comment-page-1/#comment-131585 Kathryn Thu, 21 Aug 2008 16:48:03 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/at-tmv/quote-of-the-day/21947/quote-of-the-day-is-history-repeating-itself-for-the-democrats/#comment-131585 I know, I have drunk the kool-aid on Obama, however, a couple of points: <br>Obama does best as an underdog, it was during the early part of the primary season where he was on fire. <br>Obama also likes to do things his own way rather than follow the punditocracy. He is hitting back but doing it under the radar, I think this is about his best option since any frontal attack makes him run into the "how can you do that to a POW" buzzsaw.<br>Regarding Hawaii, I am not sure that wasn't the best move, clearly the man was exhausted since he wasn't taking frequent trips to one of his (God knows how many) homes he has to recover. Plus there was some sort of Obama fatigue setting in. If Obama can use his new role as an underdog to define McCain, things might work out. I know, I have drunk the kool-aid on Obama, however, a couple of points:
Obama does best as an underdog, it was during the early part of the primary season where he was on fire.
Obama also likes to do things his own way rather than follow the punditocracy. He is hitting back but doing it under the radar, I think this is about his best option since any frontal attack makes him run into the “how can you do that to a POW” buzzsaw.
Regarding Hawaii, I am not sure that wasn't the best move, clearly the man was exhausted since he wasn't taking frequent trips to one of his (God knows how many) homes he has to recover. Plus there was some sort of Obama fatigue setting in. If Obama can use his new role as an underdog to define McCain, things might work out.

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