Comments on: Clinton Supporters Launch New Email Campaign To Try And Derail Obama Nomination http://themoderatevoice.com/21923/hillary-clinton-supporters-new-email-campaign-to-try-and-derail-obama-nomination/ An Internet hub with domestic and international news, analysis, original reporting, and popular features from the left, center, indies, centrists, moderates, and right Mon, 28 May 2012 16:10:01 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: Biden, Joseph R., Jr.: US Vice President | Rate Politicians: World Leaders, The US Congress, The US President, The US Vice President and more... http://themoderatevoice.com/21923/hillary-clinton-supporters-new-email-campaign-to-try-and-derail-obama-nomination/comment-page-1/#comment-177639 Biden, Joseph R., Jr.: US Vice President | Rate Politicians: World Leaders, The US Congress, The US President, The US Vice President and more... Thu, 26 Mar 2009 06:12:27 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/conventions/21923/hillary-clinton-supporters-new-email-campaign-to-try-and-derail-obama-nomination/#comment-177639 [...] Clinton Supporters Launch New Email Campaign To Try And Derail Obama Nomination [...] [...] Clinton Supporters Launch New Email Campaign To Try And Derail Obama Nomination [...]

]]> By: Diane G Burrell http://themoderatevoice.com/21923/hillary-clinton-supporters-new-email-campaign-to-try-and-derail-obama-nomination/comment-page-1/#comment-173124 Diane G Burrell Mon, 16 Feb 2009 22:14:33 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/conventions/21923/hillary-clinton-supporters-new-email-campaign-to-try-and-derail-obama-nomination/#comment-173124 this is an awsome blog this is an awsome blog

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]]> By: Political Party Poop http://themoderatevoice.com/21923/hillary-clinton-supporters-new-email-campaign-to-try-and-derail-obama-nomination/comment-page-1/#comment-114092 Political Party Poop Thu, 21 Aug 2008 14:42:04 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/conventions/21923/hillary-clinton-supporters-new-email-campaign-to-try-and-derail-obama-nomination/#comment-114092 [...] of the polling free-fall Barack Obama has experienced this summer, they may have a point (via TMV): A massive e-mail and Internet campaign is under way aimed at derailing the nomination of Barack [...] [...] of the polling free-fall Barack Obama has experienced this summer, they may have a point (via TMV): A massive e-mail and Internet campaign is under way aimed at derailing the nomination of Barack [...]

]]> By: T_Steel http://themoderatevoice.com/21923/hillary-clinton-supporters-new-email-campaign-to-try-and-derail-obama-nomination/comment-page-1/#comment-141740 T_Steel Thu, 21 Aug 2008 03:14:26 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/conventions/21923/hillary-clinton-supporters-new-email-campaign-to-try-and-derail-obama-nomination/#comment-141740 Heck with Biden. You put Senator Clinton on the ticket for da win. And your right Lynx, it would be a master stroke. All Obama has to do is give her an issue to spearhead completely such as health care. And then just let her do her thing. This is an unusual election year layered with historic frosting. You have to shock the political world these days.<br><br>Although I'm still voting for Santa Claus in November! Heck with Biden. You put Senator Clinton on the ticket for da win. And your right Lynx, it would be a master stroke. All Obama has to do is give her an issue to spearhead completely such as health care. And then just let her do her thing. This is an unusual election year layered with historic frosting. You have to shock the political world these days.

Although I'm still voting for Santa Claus in November!

]]> By: Rambie http://themoderatevoice.com/21923/hillary-clinton-supporters-new-email-campaign-to-try-and-derail-obama-nomination/comment-page-1/#comment-141739 Rambie Wed, 20 Aug 2008 23:07:44 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/conventions/21923/hillary-clinton-supporters-new-email-campaign-to-try-and-derail-obama-nomination/#comment-141739 Sil, I wasn't meaning to attack you. Granted we don't agree on the Clinton thing, but that's life. I hope your health issues will be resolved soon. Sil, I wasn't meaning to attack you. Granted we don't agree on the Clinton thing, but that's life. I hope your health issues will be resolved soon.

]]> By: Silhouette http://themoderatevoice.com/21923/hillary-clinton-supporters-new-email-campaign-to-try-and-derail-obama-nomination/comment-page-1/#comment-141738 Silhouette Wed, 20 Aug 2008 22:51:35 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/conventions/21923/hillary-clinton-supporters-new-email-campaign-to-try-and-derail-obama-nomination/#comment-141738 Clinton won't accept his VP position. No one wants to be that politically close to a sinking ship.<br><br>It's actually pretty prophetic of you Rambie. I'm jumping off the pundit stump (everyone can clap now...lol...). Some health issues have popped up and I've got some focusing to do elsewhere..<br><br>Search your hearts and do what's right. That's all I can leave you with. Some cohorts of mine will take up the torch so you're in good hands.<br><br>If anyone wants to get ahold of me just email <a href="mailto:silhouette@suddenlink.net">silhouette@suddenlink.net</a> or get in touch with Joe Gandelman and he can head you in the right direction.<br><br>With love, Sil Clinton won't accept his VP position. No one wants to be that politically close to a sinking ship.

It's actually pretty prophetic of you Rambie. I'm jumping off the pundit stump (everyone can clap now…lol…). Some health issues have popped up and I've got some focusing to do elsewhere..

Search your hearts and do what's right. That's all I can leave you with. Some cohorts of mine will take up the torch so you're in good hands.

If anyone wants to get ahold of me just email silhouette@suddenlink.net or get in touch with Joe Gandelman and he can head you in the right direction.

With love, Sil

]]> By: Lynx http://themoderatevoice.com/21923/hillary-clinton-supporters-new-email-campaign-to-try-and-derail-obama-nomination/comment-page-1/#comment-141737 Lynx Wed, 20 Aug 2008 21:51:25 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/conventions/21923/hillary-clinton-supporters-new-email-campaign-to-try-and-derail-obama-nomination/#comment-141737 T_Steel, I don't see it happening, the rumors about Biden seem far to credible, but I find myself SHOCKED to hope you are right.<br><br>After all the strong Biden hints, putting Clinton on the ticket would be a master stroke. It would get unbelievable attention, put many of her more stubborn supporters at ease and also give Obama a truly enviable attack dog at a time he really needs it.<br><br>I didn't much like Clinton, but I really want Obama to win. If Clinton is what he needs to do that, then Obama Clinton 08 it is! T_Steel, I don't see it happening, the rumors about Biden seem far to credible, but I find myself SHOCKED to hope you are right.

After all the strong Biden hints, putting Clinton on the ticket would be a master stroke. It would get unbelievable attention, put many of her more stubborn supporters at ease and also give Obama a truly enviable attack dog at a time he really needs it.

I didn't much like Clinton, but I really want Obama to win. If Clinton is what he needs to do that, then Obama Clinton 08 it is!

]]> By: T_Steel http://themoderatevoice.com/21923/hillary-clinton-supporters-new-email-campaign-to-try-and-derail-obama-nomination/comment-page-1/#comment-141736 T_Steel Wed, 20 Aug 2008 20:48:17 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/conventions/21923/hillary-clinton-supporters-new-email-campaign-to-try-and-derail-obama-nomination/#comment-141736 I'm telling you now, Hillary Clinton will be Obama's VP. I'll bet a free BBQ dinner and car wash on it!<br><br>So the "derailment" will be derailed. And a question to you Sil, how would you feel if, dare I say "when", Hillary Clinton is Obama's VP choice? I'm telling you now, Hillary Clinton will be Obama's VP. I'll bet a free BBQ dinner and car wash on it!

So the “derailment” will be derailed. And a question to you Sil, how would you feel if, dare I say “when”, Hillary Clinton is Obama's VP choice?

]]> By: Silhouette http://themoderatevoice.com/21923/hillary-clinton-supporters-new-email-campaign-to-try-and-derail-obama-nomination/comment-page-1/#comment-141735 Silhouette Wed, 20 Aug 2008 19:26:54 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/conventions/21923/hillary-clinton-supporters-new-email-campaign-to-try-and-derail-obama-nomination/#comment-141735 That's so weird, before I even read the comments here my first instinct told me that this little antic had GOP origins to stir up animosity of superdelegates aimed at Clinton.<br><br>It's another move they're making to rob her of votes. <br><br>Are we going to let them have their way?<br><br>They've been playing this party like a fine-tuned fiddle since day one of this election.<br><br>I say to superdelegates, ignore the BS and vote where your heart tells you you should.<br><br>****<br><br>And Rambie, no, I have no other online identity in the political arena. This is it, like it or not. I just have other obligations at times than just blogging... lol... That's so weird, before I even read the comments here my first instinct told me that this little antic had GOP origins to stir up animosity of superdelegates aimed at Clinton.

It's another move they're making to rob her of votes.

Are we going to let them have their way?

They've been playing this party like a fine-tuned fiddle since day one of this election.

I say to superdelegates, ignore the BS and vote where your heart tells you you should.

****

And Rambie, no, I have no other online identity in the political arena. This is it, like it or not. I just have other obligations at times than just blogging… lol…

]]> By: christoofar http://themoderatevoice.com/21923/hillary-clinton-supporters-new-email-campaign-to-try-and-derail-obama-nomination/comment-page-1/#comment-141734 christoofar Wed, 20 Aug 2008 18:59:46 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/conventions/21923/hillary-clinton-supporters-new-email-campaign-to-try-and-derail-obama-nomination/#comment-141734 no, not *seriously* sagging, but his numbers are staying stagnant and even dipping in some polls. How as poor a candidate as McCain can be making gains in this country after 8 years of Bush just baffles me. no, not *seriously* sagging, but his numbers are staying stagnant and even dipping in some polls. How as poor a candidate as McCain can be making gains in this country after 8 years of Bush just baffles me.

]]> By: Rambie http://themoderatevoice.com/21923/hillary-clinton-supporters-new-email-campaign-to-try-and-derail-obama-nomination/comment-page-1/#comment-141733 Rambie Wed, 20 Aug 2008 18:44:16 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/conventions/21923/hillary-clinton-supporters-new-email-campaign-to-try-and-derail-obama-nomination/#comment-141733 Where's Sil when you need her, or are you GS now?<br><br>GS, I'm not totally a "Obama supporter" though I'd rather see him win than McCain now. I too wouldn't put it past some that call themselves Republicans to play dirty politics like that. I would hope that the party leaders wouldn't be behind this, even though they don't seem to discourage it. <br><br>Let's look at the list:<br> - Write a book of lies. (2004? Check) (2008? Check)<br> - Create "swiftboating" ads. (2000? Check against McCain!) (2004? Check) (2008? web ads so far?)<br> - This also seems close to how they assisted Lieberman to get reelected to the Senate. Where's Sil when you need her, or are you GS now?

GS, I'm not totally a “Obama supporter” though I'd rather see him win than McCain now. I too wouldn't put it past some that call themselves Republicans to play dirty politics like that. I would hope that the party leaders wouldn't be behind this, even though they don't seem to discourage it.

Let's look at the list:
– Write a book of lies. (2004? Check) (2008? Check)
– Create “swiftboating” ads. (2000? Check against McCain!) (2004? Check) (2008? web ads so far?)
– This also seems close to how they assisted Lieberman to get reelected to the Senate.

]]> By: JoyP http://themoderatevoice.com/21923/hillary-clinton-supporters-new-email-campaign-to-try-and-derail-obama-nomination/comment-page-1/#comment-141732 JoyP Wed, 20 Aug 2008 18:41:20 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/conventions/21923/hillary-clinton-supporters-new-email-campaign-to-try-and-derail-obama-nomination/#comment-141732 Seriously sagging? Seriously sagging?

]]> By: Dusty http://themoderatevoice.com/21923/hillary-clinton-supporters-new-email-campaign-to-try-and-derail-obama-nomination/comment-page-1/#comment-141731 Dusty Wed, 20 Aug 2008 18:37:31 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/conventions/21923/hillary-clinton-supporters-new-email-campaign-to-try-and-derail-obama-nomination/#comment-141731 Lynix I agree with you. Personally I think that most are not Clinton supporter. Just think about it...I believe that Hillary will want to run again for president and if Obama supporters *think* that her supporters sabotaged Obama, that would hurt Clinton whenever she decides to run again.<br><br>I think it's the republican party trying to bring down both Obama and Clinton. Remember - republicans are the party of tricky Dick. Lynix I agree with you. Personally I think that most are not Clinton supporter. Just think about it…I believe that Hillary will want to run again for president and if Obama supporters *think* that her supporters sabotaged Obama, that would hurt Clinton whenever she decides to run again.

I think it's the republican party trying to bring down both Obama and Clinton. Remember – republicans are the party of tricky Dick.

]]> By: Holly_in_Cincinnati http://themoderatevoice.com/21923/hillary-clinton-supporters-new-email-campaign-to-try-and-derail-obama-nomination/comment-page-1/#comment-141730 Holly_in_Cincinnati Wed, 20 Aug 2008 18:28:13 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/conventions/21923/hillary-clinton-supporters-new-email-campaign-to-try-and-derail-obama-nomination/#comment-141730 Hey, I haven't gotten any of these emails. Hey, I haven't gotten any of these emails.

]]> By: christoofar http://themoderatevoice.com/21923/hillary-clinton-supporters-new-email-campaign-to-try-and-derail-obama-nomination/comment-page-1/#comment-141729 christoofar Wed, 20 Aug 2008 18:23:57 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/conventions/21923/hillary-clinton-supporters-new-email-campaign-to-try-and-derail-obama-nomination/#comment-141729 greenschemes -<br>I will have to say that I am starting to agree with your point about Obama picking HRC as his running mate, as much as I hate to. His numbers are starting to sag nationally, and there is no sign of anything forthcoming that will improve them.<br>As someone who would simply abhor a McCain presidency, I don't see much other choice he has at this point. The PUMA voters , no matter how small it may be, is a factor in this, sadly. And who even knows if having HRC as the VP would even satisfy them. greenschemes -
I will have to say that I am starting to agree with your point about Obama picking HRC as his running mate, as much as I hate to. His numbers are starting to sag nationally, and there is no sign of anything forthcoming that will improve them.
As someone who would simply abhor a McCain presidency, I don't see much other choice he has at this point. The PUMA voters , no matter how small it may be, is a factor in this, sadly. And who even knows if having HRC as the VP would even satisfy them.

]]> By: Lynx http://themoderatevoice.com/21923/hillary-clinton-supporters-new-email-campaign-to-try-and-derail-obama-nomination/comment-page-1/#comment-141726 Lynx Wed, 20 Aug 2008 17:38:13 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/conventions/21923/hillary-clinton-supporters-new-email-campaign-to-try-and-derail-obama-nomination/#comment-141726 greenschemes, there is evidence that the leaders and prominent cheerleaders of the PUMA movement have, at best, ulterior motives. One of their chief founders says she is a "lifelong Democrat" but only has one recorded campaign donation...to McCain. The comments and even posts on PUMA sites are covered in the kinds of words usually associated with Little Green Footballs (on a bad day), not Democrats:<br>- Calling the Democratic party the "Democrat Party"<br>- Filthy racism and Islamophobia. One example: the way to stop Obama's followers is to "take away their welfare checks"<br>- Accusations that Obama is a secret Marxist.<br><br>Check out <a href="http://www.yestodemocracy.com/">http://www.yestodemocracy.com/</a> for an exhaustive documentation of the evidence. <br><br>Many Clinton voters may not be convinced by Obama, but a Clinton voter does not a PUMA make. PUMA-PAC has made resounding....$60,000 and recently was unable to fill 250 guests at a meeting to even half that. They are a small number of unbelievably motivated people, and many of their leaders have more than suspicious motives. greenschemes, there is evidence that the leaders and prominent cheerleaders of the PUMA movement have, at best, ulterior motives. One of their chief founders says she is a “lifelong Democrat” but only has one recorded campaign donation…to McCain. The comments and even posts on PUMA sites are covered in the kinds of words usually associated with Little Green Footballs (on a bad day), not Democrats:
- Calling the Democratic party the “Democrat Party”
- Filthy racism and Islamophobia. One example: the way to stop Obama's followers is to “take away their welfare checks”
- Accusations that Obama is a secret Marxist.

Check out http://www.yestodemocracy.com/ for an exhaustive documentation of the evidence.

Many Clinton voters may not be convinced by Obama, but a Clinton voter does not a PUMA make. PUMA-PAC has made resounding….$60,000 and recently was unable to fill 250 guests at a meeting to even half that. They are a small number of unbelievably motivated people, and many of their leaders have more than suspicious motives.

]]> By: greenschemes http://themoderatevoice.com/21923/hillary-clinton-supporters-new-email-campaign-to-try-and-derail-obama-nomination/comment-page-1/#comment-141723 greenschemes Wed, 20 Aug 2008 17:30:53 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/conventions/21923/hillary-clinton-supporters-new-email-campaign-to-try-and-derail-obama-nomination/#comment-141723 The interesting thing about this is that most of those people voting for Obama honestly believe deep down in their hearts that these PUMA types are really Republicans who are just stirring up stuff.<br><br>Ordinarily I would tend to agree until you look at the figures from national poles. While Obama might be behind in a couple polls or up a couple points in other polls I find it truly amazing that he is not up by 15 points. So does everyone else. Its pretty obvious that a lot of Hillary Clinton Democrats are saying at least to pollsters that they are going to vote for McCain.<br><br>I will say again as someone who supports John McCain that Obama has a serious lack of judgment if he does not choose Hillary Clinton as his Vp. The interesting thing about this is that most of those people voting for Obama honestly believe deep down in their hearts that these PUMA types are really Republicans who are just stirring up stuff.

Ordinarily I would tend to agree until you look at the figures from national poles. While Obama might be behind in a couple polls or up a couple points in other polls I find it truly amazing that he is not up by 15 points. So does everyone else. Its pretty obvious that a lot of Hillary Clinton Democrats are saying at least to pollsters that they are going to vote for McCain.

I will say again as someone who supports John McCain that Obama has a serious lack of judgment if he does not choose Hillary Clinton as his Vp.

]]> By: Hot Air » Blog Archive » PUMA alert: “Massive” e-mail campaign to derail Obama at convention http://themoderatevoice.com/21923/hillary-clinton-supporters-new-email-campaign-to-try-and-derail-obama-nomination/comment-page-1/#comment-114077 Hot Air » Blog Archive » PUMA alert: “Massive” e-mail campaign to derail Obama at convention Wed, 20 Aug 2008 17:10:29 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/conventions/21923/hillary-clinton-supporters-new-email-campaign-to-try-and-derail-obama-nomination/#comment-114077 [...] of the polling free-fall Barack Obama has experienced this summer, they may have a point (via TMV): A massive e-mail and Internet campaign is under way aimed at derailing the nomination of Barack [...] [...] of the polling free-fall Barack Obama has experienced this summer, they may have a point (via TMV): A massive e-mail and Internet campaign is under way aimed at derailing the nomination of Barack [...]

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