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		<title>By: pacatrue</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/21922/my-brothers-keeper-2/comment-page-1/#comment-149586</link>
		<dc:creator>pacatrue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 23:05:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know, Rico, but it&#039;s Obama&#039;s fault.</description>
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		<title>By: Ricorun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ricorun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 13:19:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of mothers, the story indicated that George is no longer in contact with his. I wonder why that is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of mothers, the story indicated that George is no longer in contact with his. I wonder why that is.</p>
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		<title>By: Marlowecan</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/21922/my-brothers-keeper-2/comment-page-1/#comment-149582</link>
		<dc:creator>Marlowecan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 23:44:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What Pacatrue says is very true!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This story is pi**ing me off the more I think about it  (And not just because it reeks of a nasty smear).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I know families like Obamas may be unusual to some folks, but think about it: &lt;br&gt;This man is not Obama&#039;s brother.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;At a certain point, in these situations, you start developing cognitive strategies to deal with the expected emotional turmoil from the unexpected.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The mates I grew up with . . . who have been with me over the years through the shit and the good times . . . who have put themselves up for liabilities in the hundreds of thousands of dollars when my family needed it . . . they are my brothers.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Someone who turns up one day, saying they are my brother, who is a total stranger really . . . but who happen to share some genetic material because of my irresponsible father . . . is not my brother.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What Pacatrue says is very true!</p>
<p>This story is pi**ing me off the more I think about it  (And not just because it reeks of a nasty smear).</p>
<p>I know families like Obamas may be unusual to some folks, but think about it: <br />This man is not Obama&#39;s brother.</p>
<p>At a certain point, in these situations, you start developing cognitive strategies to deal with the expected emotional turmoil from the unexpected.  </p>
<p>The mates I grew up with . . . who have been with me over the years through the shit and the good times . . . who have put themselves up for liabilities in the hundreds of thousands of dollars when my family needed it . . . they are my brothers.</p>
<p>Someone who turns up one day, saying they are my brother, who is a total stranger really . . . but who happen to share some genetic material because of my irresponsible father . . . is not my brother.</p>
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		<title>By: pacatrue</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/21922/my-brothers-keeper-2/comment-page-1/#comment-149581</link>
		<dc:creator>pacatrue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 23:23:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry but this case bears no resemblance to Jazz&#039; analogy of abandoning his mother to eating Alpo. Such language reminds me of Shaun&#039;s delicate word use in calling people sluts and whores to get a few extra readers. A father from Kenya abandoned his own son in America and then went to father more children in Kenya who he also abandoned. I&#039;m shocked, shocked!, to learn that those Kenyan children are living like most other Kenyans! Clearly if one son doesn&#039;t become the personal benefactor of people he&#039;s barely met because his dad can&#039;t take responsibility for his own actions, it&#039;s the moral equivalent of letting his mother crawl around on the floor eating dog food! C&#039;mon.... The only real issue here is the comparison between opportunities in Kenya and America and what we should do about that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;m sorry but this case bears no resemblance to Jazz&#39; analogy of abandoning his mother to eating Alpo. Such language reminds me of Shaun&#39;s delicate word use in calling people sluts and whores to get a few extra readers. A father from Kenya abandoned his own son in America and then went to father more children in Kenya who he also abandoned. I&#39;m shocked, shocked!, to learn that those Kenyan children are living like most other Kenyans! Clearly if one son doesn&#39;t become the personal benefactor of people he&#39;s barely met because his dad can&#39;t take responsibility for his own actions, it&#39;s the moral equivalent of letting his mother crawl around on the floor eating dog food! C&#39;mon&#8230;. The only real issue here is the comparison between opportunities in Kenya and America and what we should do about that.</p>
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		<title>By: Marlowecan</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/21922/my-brothers-keeper-2/comment-page-1/#comment-149580</link>
		<dc:creator>Marlowecan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 22:58:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr. E calls this one right in her excellent comment.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Just 2 Points: &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;First, I agree with sh0ter: there IS something fishy about this story.   &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It reeks of something that was handed to VF all neatly wrapped up with a tied ribbon.   It would be interesting - albeit unlikely - if the MSM looked into the origins of this story.  Was it shopped to Vanity Fair?  By who?   &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Second,  speaking as someone who comes from a family background structurally very similar to Obama&#039;s,  I don&#039;t think this reflects on him whatsover.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This is his father&#039;s (ir)responsibility.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;For my part, I would not be surprised that when I turn sixty or seventy there will be half-brothers and sisters turning up all over the place.   A truly messy and emotionally conflicted business on so many levels.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As Dr. E brilliantly put it . . .we are &quot;digging out&quot; for years and years. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Altho I am not an Obama supporter,  I can well relate to his family experience in this regard.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I do not judge Obama in any way for this . . . and I hope that no one else does!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. E calls this one right in her excellent comment.</p>
<p>Just 2 Points: </p>
<p>First, I agree with sh0ter: there IS something fishy about this story.   </p>
<p>It reeks of something that was handed to VF all neatly wrapped up with a tied ribbon.   It would be interesting &#8211; albeit unlikely &#8211; if the MSM looked into the origins of this story.  Was it shopped to Vanity Fair?  By who?   </p>
<p>Second,  speaking as someone who comes from a family background structurally very similar to Obama&#39;s,  I don&#39;t think this reflects on him whatsover.</p>
<p>This is his father&#39;s (ir)responsibility.</p>
<p>For my part, I would not be surprised that when I turn sixty or seventy there will be half-brothers and sisters turning up all over the place.   A truly messy and emotionally conflicted business on so many levels.  </p>
<p>As Dr. E brilliantly put it . . .we are &#8220;digging out&#8221; for years and years. </p>
<p>Altho I am not an Obama supporter,  I can well relate to his family experience in this regard.  </p>
<p>I do not judge Obama in any way for this . . . and I hope that no one else does!</p>
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		<title>By: Not His Brother’s Keeper &#171; Red Tory v.3.0</title>
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		<dc:creator>Not His Brother’s Keeper &#171; Red Tory v.3.0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 21:50:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the presidential campaign, but there may be more here than meets the eye. As Jazz at Moderate Voice puts it, “if you found out that an elected official, running for high office and the multi-million [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the presidential campaign, but there may be more here than meets the eye. As Jazz at Moderate Voice puts it, “if you found out that an elected official, running for high office and the multi-million [...]</p>
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		<title>By: AustinRoth</title>
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		<dc:creator>AustinRoth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 21:45:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Total non-story. But when that that ever mattered in politics?</description>
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		<title>By: Silhouette</title>
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		<dc:creator>Silhouette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 19:31:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I imagine that McCain&#039;s old wife and kids and Cindy McCain&#039;s stepsisters aren&#039;t living on $1 a day in a tin hut surrounded by filth.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Just a guess of course..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I imagine that McCain&#39;s old wife and kids and Cindy McCain&#39;s stepsisters aren&#39;t living on $1 a day in a tin hut surrounded by filth.</p>
<p>Just a guess of course..</p>
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		<title>By: christoofar</title>
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		<dc:creator>christoofar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 18:29:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Plus I find it hard to believe that Obama  wouldn&#039;t have considered the possiblity that this type of a story would come out at some point, such as the current one about Cindy MCCain&#039;s seldom mentioned step-sisters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Plus I find it hard to believe that Obama  wouldn&#39;t have considered the possiblity that this type of a story would come out at some point, such as the current one about Cindy MCCain&#39;s seldom mentioned step-sisters.</p>
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		<title>By: Jazz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jazz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 18:23:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s also worth noting that George isn&#039;t a &quot;step-brother&quot; which, in strict terms, would imply that his relation to Barack was by marriage only. Having the same father makes them half brothers and blood relatives. And while I certainly agree that the responsibility should have fallen on the father and mother first, when that support network failed, you would think that a person in the Obama family&#039;s position would have reached out to give him at least something more of a life.  Well, that&#039;s my take on it anyway. Obviously not everyone thinks of the term &quot;family&quot; the same way or regards obligations to such the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#39;s also worth noting that George isn&#39;t a &#8220;step-brother&#8221; which, in strict terms, would imply that his relation to Barack was by marriage only. Having the same father makes them half brothers and blood relatives. And while I certainly agree that the responsibility should have fallen on the father and mother first, when that support network failed, you would think that a person in the Obama family&#39;s position would have reached out to give him at least something more of a life.  Well, that&#39;s my take on it anyway. Obviously not everyone thinks of the term &#8220;family&#8221; the same way or regards obligations to such the same.</p>
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		<title>By: CStanley</title>
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		<dc:creator>CStanley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 17:55:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Dr. E that Obama&#039;s father bears responsibility, but I can&#039;t help but feel profound shock that Barack Obama wouldn&#039;t have tried to help his blood relatiives more given that his father abandoned that responsibility. That&#039;s assuming the story is true, which of course I don&#039;t know- I&#039;m only describing how it affects me if it is. I say shocked because I do consider Obama to be of high moral character even though I often disagree with his beliefs on morality. This leaves me thinking that I guess I just can&#039;t relate to his family experience at all; I can only conjecture what I would do in his situation, and I personally can&#039;t imagine not seeking out these abandoned half siblings if I knew of their impoverished condition.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Which then makes me wonder if that is the real damage that this story might cause- reminding a lot of Americans of how different Obama&#039;s life story is than our own. Intellectually I don&#039;t think that&#039;s a reason to vote against him, but I think most of us are dishonest if we don&#039;t admit that our gut feelings do influence our support or opposition to candidates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Dr. E that Obama&#39;s father bears responsibility, but I can&#39;t help but feel profound shock that Barack Obama wouldn&#39;t have tried to help his blood relatiives more given that his father abandoned that responsibility. That&#39;s assuming the story is true, which of course I don&#39;t know- I&#39;m only describing how it affects me if it is. I say shocked because I do consider Obama to be of high moral character even though I often disagree with his beliefs on morality. This leaves me thinking that I guess I just can&#39;t relate to his family experience at all; I can only conjecture what I would do in his situation, and I personally can&#39;t imagine not seeking out these abandoned half siblings if I knew of their impoverished condition.</p>
<p>Which then makes me wonder if that is the real damage that this story might cause- reminding a lot of Americans of how different Obama&#39;s life story is than our own. Intellectually I don&#39;t think that&#39;s a reason to vote against him, but I think most of us are dishonest if we don&#39;t admit that our gut feelings do influence our support or opposition to candidates.</p>
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		<title>By: archangel</title>
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		<dc:creator>archangel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 17:09:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just .02. It&#039;s one thing to leave one&#039;s own mother to waste, or father who one has had a relationship with. George Hussein Onyango Obama, Obama&#039;s step-brother was his father&#039;s responsibility, not Obama&#039;s, I think. Obama&#039;s father would be the one to see after his children. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The Obama brothers&#039; father was an educated man who seems to have not been able to &#039;stay&#039; with the families he fathered. He appears to have left many dependent people in the breach over his lifetime. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The picture of George is very heart-rending. I hope he can avail himself to the help given in his country by various humanitairan and religious groups. There is much there. It is not what some people call &quot;a dark continent&quot; in that way. There are people to help. Hopefully the Vanity Fair people with their vast resources for gaining entry and contacts will have told George about additional ways and means. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I was just thinking as I read Jazz&#039;s post, a good many children, as we know, no matter which country, when abandoned or neglected by the father, are left with at least one corner of what one would hope to be a stable family architecture, collapsed on  top of the family. It is a long road to digging out. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The protector of the family that is recognized (feared/respected) by other men, predatory, and otherwise, is then missing for the sons in particular, but also for the daughters. They are on their own, then in the world and are vulnerable to being pulled into all mannner of activities to survive.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think this situation belongs to the father in the first water. I do know that people in foster-, step, half-sibling families tend to one another through common interests and relationships most often, not by mere blood. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I also see that how one far more well off sometimes helps those of the extended family who are not, is by footing the bill for education. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But again, this is something the Obama brothers&#039; father would normally have seen to. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;dr.e</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just .02. It&#39;s one thing to leave one&#39;s own mother to waste, or father who one has had a relationship with. George Hussein Onyango Obama, Obama&#39;s step-brother was his father&#39;s responsibility, not Obama&#39;s, I think. Obama&#39;s father would be the one to see after his children. </p>
<p>The Obama brothers&#39; father was an educated man who seems to have not been able to &#39;stay&#39; with the families he fathered. He appears to have left many dependent people in the breach over his lifetime. </p>
<p>The picture of George is very heart-rending. I hope he can avail himself to the help given in his country by various humanitairan and religious groups. There is much there. It is not what some people call &#8220;a dark continent&#8221; in that way. There are people to help. Hopefully the Vanity Fair people with their vast resources for gaining entry and contacts will have told George about additional ways and means. </p>
<p>I was just thinking as I read Jazz&#39;s post, a good many children, as we know, no matter which country, when abandoned or neglected by the father, are left with at least one corner of what one would hope to be a stable family architecture, collapsed on  top of the family. It is a long road to digging out. </p>
<p>The protector of the family that is recognized (feared/respected) by other men, predatory, and otherwise, is then missing for the sons in particular, but also for the daughters. They are on their own, then in the world and are vulnerable to being pulled into all mannner of activities to survive.</p>
<p>I think this situation belongs to the father in the first water. I do know that people in foster-, step, half-sibling families tend to one another through common interests and relationships most often, not by mere blood. </p>
<p>I also see that how one far more well off sometimes helps those of the extended family who are not, is by footing the bill for education. </p>
<p>But again, this is something the Obama brothers&#39; father would normally have seen to. </p>
<p>dr.e</p>
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		<title>By: CStanley</title>
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		<dc:creator>CStanley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 16:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And actually, Chris, the reports are that McCain&#039;s first wife still has a good relationship with him and that she&#039;s been well taken care of financially.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And actually, Chris, the reports are that McCain&#39;s first wife still has a good relationship with him and that she&#39;s been well taken care of financially.</p>
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		<title>By: sh0ter</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 16:50:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think there&#039;s something fishy with the timing of this piece, by Vanity Fair. Most certianly not news. They share the same father, but were not part of the same family.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there&#39;s something fishy with the timing of this piece, by Vanity Fair. Most certianly not news. They share the same father, but were not part of the same family.</p>
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		<title>By: Jazz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jazz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 16:49:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, that&#039;s becoming a campaign issue as well, isn&#039;t it?  As I said, this sort of thing plays into the campaign story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, that&#39;s becoming a campaign issue as well, isn&#39;t it?  As I said, this sort of thing plays into the campaign story.</p>
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		<title>By: ChrisWWW</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChrisWWW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 16:46:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How&#039;s McCain&#039;s old wife and children doing? Just thought I&#039;d ask :-)</description>
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