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		<title>By: Wayne</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/21864/of-crosses-cones-codgers/comment-page-1/#comment-143472</link>
		<dc:creator>Wayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 02:46:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>.... Orson Swindle, a fellow POW who is campaigning for McCain ... “I recall John telling that story when we first got together in 1971, when were talking about every conceivable thing that had ever happened to us when we were in prison”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;. Orson Swindle, a fellow POW who is campaigning for McCain &#8230; “I recall John telling that story when we first got together in 1971, when were talking about every conceivable thing that had ever happened to us when we were in prison”</p>
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		<title>By: Ricorun</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/21864/of-crosses-cones-codgers/comment-page-1/#comment-143471</link>
		<dc:creator>Ricorun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 19:51:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AR: &lt;i&gt;Those allegations against Kerry were made by people who served with him, not by a bunch of hacks.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;To paraphrase another memorable bit of dissembling... it depends on what your definition of &quot;with&quot; is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AR: <i>Those allegations against Kerry were made by people who served with him, not by a bunch of hacks.</i></p>
<p>To paraphrase another memorable bit of dissembling&#8230; it depends on what your definition of &#8220;with&#8221; is.</p>
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		<title>By: ChrisWWW</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/21864/of-crosses-cones-codgers/comment-page-1/#comment-143470</link>
		<dc:creator>ChrisWWW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 18:19:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew Sullivan has just posted some updated thoughts on the subject: &lt;a href=&quot;http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/08/the-dirt-in-the.html&quot;&gt;http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew Sullivan has just posted some updated thoughts on the subject: <a href="http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/08/the-dirt-in-the.html"></a><a href="http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily.." rel="nofollow">http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily..</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: shaun</title>
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		<dc:creator>shaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 18:05:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fair enuf, AR and Chris WWW.  Post amended.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fair enuf, AR and Chris WWW.  Post amended.</p>
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		<title>By: GeorgeSorwell</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/21864/of-crosses-cones-codgers/comment-page-1/#comment-143468</link>
		<dc:creator>GeorgeSorwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 18:01:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Austin Roth--&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Give me a break! The men who actually served with Kerry (there is a single exception) say good thing about his service.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Read all about it at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.snopes.com/politics/kerry/swift.asp&quot;&gt;Snopes.com&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Austin Roth&#8211;</p>
<p>Give me a break! The men who actually served with Kerry (there is a single exception) say good thing about his service.</p>
<p>Read all about it at <a href="http://www.snopes.com/politics/kerry/swift.asp">Snopes.com</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: ChrisWWW</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/21864/of-crosses-cones-codgers/comment-page-1/#comment-143467</link>
		<dc:creator>ChrisWWW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:46:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AR,&lt;br&gt;Shaun should correct his post to note the mention of it in 1999. But that detail doesn&#039;t change or refute the point of Shaun&#039;s writing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AR,<br />Shaun should correct his post to note the mention of it in 1999. But that detail doesn&#39;t change or refute the point of Shaun&#39;s writing.</p>
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		<title>By: AustinRoth</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/21864/of-crosses-cones-codgers/comment-page-1/#comment-143466</link>
		<dc:creator>AustinRoth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:24:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shaun - please, where are those vaunted journalistic standards of yours? Repeating an unsubstantiated and malicious rumor of plagiarism by McCain&#039;s enemies? This is not even Swift Boating. Those allegations against Kerry were made by people who served with him, not by a bunch of hacks. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And your statement of &quot;that he never mentioned such a seminal moment in his POW memoir or at anytime since&quot; again shows your lack of journalistic integrity and a lack of work ethic, as a simple Google search shows that he has been mentioning that story since 1999.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Now, it is indeed possible that it is a &#039;false memory&#039; he has picked up from reading Solzhenitsyn, but facts would be better than innuendo. This is no different than the BS charges against both candidates that they are not technically qualified to run for President - they are unsubstantiated rantings of hyper-partisans.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Let&#039;s keep this type of crap where it belongs - at Kos.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shaun &#8211; please, where are those vaunted journalistic standards of yours? Repeating an unsubstantiated and malicious rumor of plagiarism by McCain&#39;s enemies? This is not even Swift Boating. Those allegations against Kerry were made by people who served with him, not by a bunch of hacks. </p>
<p>And your statement of &#8220;that he never mentioned such a seminal moment in his POW memoir or at anytime since&#8221; again shows your lack of journalistic integrity and a lack of work ethic, as a simple Google search shows that he has been mentioning that story since 1999.</p>
<p>Now, it is indeed possible that it is a &#39;false memory&#39; he has picked up from reading Solzhenitsyn, but facts would be better than innuendo. This is no different than the BS charges against both candidates that they are not technically qualified to run for President &#8211; they are unsubstantiated rantings of hyper-partisans.</p>
<p>Let&#39;s keep this type of crap where it belongs &#8211; at Kos.</p>
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		<title>By: ChrisWWW</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChrisWWW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 15:42:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/archives/2008/08/mccains_cone_of_impunity.php&quot;&gt;Yglesias&lt;/a&gt; adds:&lt;br&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;... his campaign has started doing two very odd things. One is its habit, somewhat ludicrously, of insisting that McCain doesn’t like to talk about his POW experience when, in fact, he and his campaign do it all the time. Another, more disturbing habit, is the tendency to use references to his wartime service to deflect any and all questions the campaign doesn’t feel like answering.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/archives/2008/08/mccains_cone_of_impunity.php">Yglesias</a> adds:<br />
<blockquote>&#8230; his campaign has started doing two very odd things. One is its habit, somewhat ludicrously, of insisting that McCain doesn’t like to talk about his POW experience when, in fact, he and his campaign do it all the time. Another, more disturbing habit, is the tendency to use references to his wartime service to deflect any and all questions the campaign doesn’t feel like answering.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: ChrisWWW</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/21864/of-crosses-cones-codgers/comment-page-1/#comment-143464</link>
		<dc:creator>ChrisWWW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 15:20:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No way to know if he lied. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What&#039;s more interesting is that McCain has made his POW experience the core of his campaign message - with offshore drilling coming in a close second. Does this mean Wesley Clark will be allowed to come out of hiding again?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No way to know if he lied. </p>
<p>What&#39;s more interesting is that McCain has made his POW experience the core of his campaign message &#8211; with offshore drilling coming in a close second. Does this mean Wesley Clark will be allowed to come out of hiding again?</p>
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