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Clinton-Obama Compromise: Clinton’s Name To Be Placed In Nomination

Marc Ambinder reports that not only is it now likely that Senator Hillary Clinton’s name will be placed in nomination at the Democratic convention but some of the conventional wisdom floating around the Internet and media has proven to be flat-out wrong:

1. In reality, reports of “strife between negotiators for Sen. Hillary Clinton and Sen. Barack Obama are exaggerated and the two sides are nearing an agreement on how Clinton’s delegates will participate in the formal nominating process at the Democratic National Convention, according to advisers to both Democrats.”

2. Those who saw a Clinton conspiracy to try and push to be nominated were wrong. That includes a lively New York Times columnist named Maureen Dowd. In fact, Clinton herself wasn’t too sure she wanted her name to be placed in nomination.

Although Clinton had resisted pressure from donors, allies and supporters to accept demands to allow her name placed in nomination, she and aides to Obama seemed to realize independently that doing so would be the best way to incorporate and welcome Clinton’s supporters into Obama’s general election campaign, both symbolically and practically.

According to several people who have spoken with her, Clinton originally believed that if her name were included in the roll call on Wednesday, August 27, she would inevitably wind up with fewer delegates than the 1896.5 she earned from the primaries. That would look bad and could demoralize her supporters.

In negotiations this summer with Obama’s campaign, Clinton’s team did not ask for Clinton’s name to be submitted.

So the clamor and demand for Obama to put her name in nomination, and the claims that Obama’s side had been arrogantly insisting her name not be placed in nomination proved as accurate as the assertion that ” just buy an SUV and it’ll save you lots of money on gas!!”

But, Ambinder reports, there was a major Clinton change recently:

But within the past week, Clinton advisers informed the Obama team that many of Clinton’s staunchest supporters felt strongly that something had to be done, and that Clinton had concluded that, in part for the sake of unity, their wishes ought to be respected. They heard back immediately: the Obama campaign had always been open to having her name placed in nomination alongside his.

If Ambinder is to believed — and he rightfully enjoys credibility as a solid reporter –the pressure has come from Clinton’s supporters. So the theory that the Clintons were planning to use the convention spotlight on them to implode the Obama campaign looks more limp every day. In theory, Obama’s delegates could be stampeded away from him and nominate Clinton. But if you believe that, I can sell you THIS for $75.00. (Hurry now, these prices won’t last!)

Moreover, Ambinder reports that Clinton never used her clout with delegates to try to bargain with Obama.

Ambinder’s post is eye-opening because it shows just how easy it is for new and old media to get caught up in the conventional wisdom of the moment and write about what other people are writing about as fact. He offers this:

On August 6, Clinton told donors at a private fundraiser that she thinks “that people want to feel like, O.K., it’s a catharsis, we’re here, we did it, and then everybody get behind Senator Obama. That is what most people believe is the best way to go.”

The reality, he says, is that talks between the two sides have been “as relatively free of acrimony. Obama’s convention managers and his political are acutely aware of the fact that at least 45% percent of delegates were stalwart backers of Sen. Clinton during the primary.”

All of this is not small potatoes.

Given how Republican John McCain is now effectively-rallying his political base, and his continued strength in battling Obama for critical independent “swing” voters, there is no way in you-know-where that the Democrats will prevail if Clinton backers sit on their hands or vote for McCain.

That attitude remains curious for people who profess to be partisans. In 2000 some Democrats were mad at Al Gore and accepted third party candidate Ralph Nader’s line that there was no difference between the two parties. That proved false. Some argued that, after one term of George Bush, it’d be easy to defeat the Republicans and regain the White House. For many reason it didn’t happen but a key one is that incumbent Presidents usually have a big, fat political advantage.

Meanwhile, as has often been noted here and elsewhere, if Clinton and her supporters don’t solidly back Obama, his supporters will battle to ensure she doesn’t get the nomination in 2012 if he loses. If Obama loses, he must lose due to lack of support from independents, running a poor campaign, effective negative campaigning by the GOP, a gaffe or due to his race. If it turns out it’s due to anti-Obama Clinton voters, Clinton won’t get the nomination in 2012 — and, if she does, she’ll face the same problem with party unity and won’t win in 2012. (P.S. All the talk about her being too old in eight years is balderdash if you look at other countries’ leaders..)

Skillful Clinton strategists and surrogates going fishing during the campaign won’t be lost on Obama supporters or members of Congress who have a stake in a big win at the top of the ticket. If the Democrats want to win, the party will have to be truly unified with a burning desire to win the White House back. As Republicans rally to McCain, they’re showing they have they have a burning desire.

A McCain win in 2008 could mean another 8 years out of the White House for the Demmies. McCain is highly appealing to many Americans, knows how to manage his image, and given the right set up knows how to use the TV tube. The question is if he gets in will be be Bush III or be more like the 2000 maverick?

McCain today seems to be the candidate having the most fun with his campaign while Obama often seems defensive and surprisingly low-key. And some Clinton supporters? They’re coming across as wanting to use November as political payback, rather than advancing their own candidate’s political agenda — which is more similar to Obama’s than to McCain’s.

SOME RELATED READINGS:

E.J. Dionne: Never-say-die Clintonites evidently didn’t get memo
--Some Clinton backers won’t go quietly at convention
Clinton Rallies Planned for Convention
The Clinton Restoration Project

  • Silhouette
    "So the clamor and demand for Obama to put her name in nomination, and the claims that Obama’s side had been arrogantly insisting her name not be placed in nomination proved as accurate as the assertion that ” just buy an SUV and it’ll save you lots of money on gas!!”

    ****

    Here's da ting. President...um...I mean Presumptive Nominee Obama doesn't have control over whether or not Hillary's name is on the ballot. The democratic delegates, superdelegates and the DNC decide what happens at the convention.

    We assign WAY too much power to Obama than he really (doesn't) have.

    Delegates and superdelegates, committes and subcommittees have gotten together and decided that keeping Hillary on board is a great backup plan. Just in case the GOP panics in the Fall and decides to break the glass in case of emergency.

    I just hope they figure out how to substitute her, if necessary, as late as the night before the election this Fall. Could we put "Obama or Clinton" (all one entry) on the ballots, in that order? I wonder if that could be legally done?

    Hmmmm...

    If we did that though the GOP might be forced to play its wild card: NSPD-51
  • Added a link to your post from Clinton returns for Democratic Convention Vote Thanks for the update.
  • Kathryn
    Ok Silhouette, I'll bite, supposing you PUMA people manage to steal the nomination and give it to Bill (that's who is really in charge, the Atlantic story indicates she can't stand up to him and make her own decisions) how do you persuade Obama supporters to vote for Bill? McCain with all his faults at least wasn't being serviced by an intern while discussing troops in Bosnia.

    Look, I was a Republican. I think they screwed up the country big time, but I am also relatively well-off. If Democrats screw their own party by switching to Biliary they are showing themselves to be completely incapable of governing. I'll switch to McCain, and enjoy my tax break.
  • Kathryn, before you switch to McCain ... please consider that he may change the GOP to be the party of compromise.
  • christoofar
    Sil -

    You should really read thru the actual comments you quote in your entry a little closer...
    kind of negates what comes after them..
  • pacatrue
    I originally thought Richardson was the best choice. Or perhaps Biden. Therefore I will refuse to support the Democratic nominee until they properly give me my due for backing someone who didn't win the most delegates.
  • DLS
    What was said on NPR is the most important. Not all Clinton voters currently support Obama. Seventy-two per cent do; that leaves twenty-eight per cent who do not. What if Obama were to make more controversial remarks such as his windfall profits tax idea, threatening the nation apparently with a McGovern-Carter era? It is likely even fewer Clinton voters would support Obama, while undecided swing voters would likely [re]consider McCain.
  • Ricorun
    pacatrue, lol!

    I'm not a very partisan person. I like to think I judge candidates on their merits rather than their party. I like to think logic plays a large role in that judgment. But there are times I know it doesn't. A president is not only a "decider", as Bush so famously put it, but is also a communicator. If you think about it, the presidents that tend to get rated most highly are often those with outstanding oratory skills: Lincoln, FDR, JFK, Reagan. Influence can create reality. Clinton was pretty good at it, too. He had a knack for distilling difficult issues down to their essence. Even Dubbya had his moments in his idiosyncratically fractured way. Back in 2004 I asked the members of my high school alumni site (you wouldn't expect a high school alumni site to be a hot-bed of political discussion, but surprisingly enough it was) to name Bush's greatest singular achievement in his first term. Almost all of the Bush supporters pointed to how he comforted the nation in the days following 9-11. I'd say that's true. Words do matter.

    So communication skills is one area where I suspend logic somewhat in making a judgement. Another is entrenchment of the status quo. It may be illogical, but I'm a big believer in mixing things up. Said in another way, I believe in meritocracy rather than aristocracy. In that regard allow me to point out that for the last 20 years the White House has been inhabited by either a Bush or a Clinton. For that reason alone I would find it hard to vote for another Bush or Clinton this time around.

    As luck would have it, that's no longer an option. But there's more to it than that. One idea that gets bandied about, especially among those of a more conservative inclination, is the idea of term limits. Considering my stated affinity for meritocracy you'd think I'd be for it, wouldn't you? But the fact is, I have severe reservations in that regard. And the reason is this: the people behind the scenes are already too powerful. That's the real danger. Unless you curb their influence term limits will do more harm than good. Too often elected officials are already just figureheads for the machines behind them. And that's especially true of politicians at the federal level. Clinton was counting on the machine her husband built -- the DLC. Likewise, McCain is counting on the machine that Bush built (or perhaps more correctly, Rove). Many people consider the recent reports that McCain's cell phone use has been curtailed by his campaign as just sort of humorous. I consider it ominous. I also consider it ominous that McCain's economic advisers have put out notice that we shouldn't listen to what McCain says, but rather their "clarifications" of what he says. Goodness. Is anyone else disturbed about those kinds of things?

    In contrast, Obama appears to have concentrated his power around himself. To be sure, he "borrows" advisers from various places, but so far at least it appears he's the one that's calling the shots. Win or lose, I give him (and his own machine, which he has built from scratch) credit for rendering the DLC essentially irrelevant. And whatever else could be said about the man, Obama is not a lightweight.
  • DLS
    "It may be illogical, but I'm a big believer in mixing things up. Said in another way, I believe in meritocracy rather than aristocracy."

    Obama is a liberal Democrat who shouldn't surprise liberal Democrats, but he is seen as an outsider and definitely someone who would mix things up somewhat. (Not as much as many people currently believe -- you'll see Carter retreads and Clinton retreads among his team in Washington, and other DC established figures -- but more so than you'd get with Hillary Clinton as President.)

    Do _not_ be surprised if the GOP has Jeb Bush run for the Presidency in 2012 if that party is still as desperate or (conceding to Superdestroyer and observing the 2006-2008 events) in even worse shape than it is now.
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