“Of course, I don't expect the sock puppet to agree with me, but it's something for McCain to consider. He gets Florida automatically if he does pick Lieberman, who is very popular down here. “

Nobody believes that sentence coming from a partisan left-winger who calls himself a “moderate.”

I would amend that nobody believes this sentence coming from a lock-step neocon from Boca Raton. You have done nothing but insult and launch ad hominem attacks against him without merit. Sock puppet indeed- that's a cheap shot to his day job…

are you getting points trolling for McNasty?

Anyone hear from Zel Miller lately?

That should make them both heroes in this nation. Not pariahs who dont tow the party line and vote lockstep in tune with what the party demands.

Thats been the problem with this country too long. Both sides are so desperately trying to get their man elected that the instant someone says something then posts like this spring up proving so and so is evil and the campaign is smut driven because he or she says something that can be construed as negative.

Both sides are saying negative things about the others. Lieberman is still a democrat and Hagel is still a Republican. They just both have serious personal beliefs about the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. That does not make either one of them evil or less of a party man. No matter how people want to try and make them that way.

DLS- Um, and how does the right treat its heretics? Chuck Hagel was just about disowned by the GOP for having the temerity to voice his conscience on the Iraq War. Even McCain was viewed by many Republicans as a traitor because he worked with Democrats in the Senate on major bills,and favored amnesty for illegal immigrants.

Miami-Dade & Broward Jews may be more Democrat, but Palm Beach Cty Jews are 40% Republican and at least 15% more are Independent, according to my neighbor who was County Chairman for over a decade. All politics is local, according to Tip O'Neill.

I'll take his word over anecdotal chatter from someone who lives in BBeach.

Methinks it may be more as Obama's weaknesses away from a teleprompter & set-piece situations will assert themselves—-he is absolutely fumble-tongued in situations where he has to ad-lib.

In the debates, I predict he will appear condescending to McCain & get the Reagan Democrats voting Republican again, even if they tell pollsters they will vote for Obama. Tom Bradley & Gov. Wilder found this out the hard way.

Mind you, these aren't Orthodox Jews who have more in common with Christian fundamentalists than they do the rest of the Jewish population. These are Reform and Conservative Jews.

Oh, and a recent poll of Jews nationwide shows Obama much more popular than Joe Lieberman.

I understand Lieberman has his defenders. My problem with Lieberman is not his pro-war position but his utter unwillingness throughout the conflict to even consider that things had ever gone wrong. He supported Bush more than most Republicans on Iraq and looked like a fool for doing so.

You confuse or misuse various meanings of the word “traitor,” whereas those of us who follow public discourse know that I'm being generous because Lieberman has already been treated at a traitor by partisan and liberal Dems for the past several months.

Lieberman lost the primary. But as luck would have it, the Republican candidate was a worthless reprobate. So most Republicans backed him in the general instead. Some center Dems did too. After all, Lieberman had a pretty good track record of bringing home the pork. In fact, pork was one of the primary pillars of his campaign. Obama did not campaign for Lieberman during the general, by the way. He didn't campaign for Lamont either, but he did contribute something like $2500.

Speaking of money, Lieberman has donated generously to fellow Dems this cycle — something like $250,000, versus something like $30,000 to GOP interests.

How all of this impacts on the question at hand I'm not sure. However, if you were to ask me if I'd be comfortable with Lieberman taking over should something happen to McCain, I'd have to say, resoundingly, NO!

Lieberman definitely is a top-of-the-list VP choice for McCain and everyone knows it.

Dave in Boca : Lieberman or Crist — “fellow maverick” or establishmentarian, either way a natural McCain choice. Lieberman is the more interesting of the two, and in either case, I still believe McCain is going to lose this year, though by less than I may suspect (bolstered by what I overhead today when discussing this in Detroit metro, a blue not red place).