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		<title>By: kritt11</title>
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		<dc:creator>kritt11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 18:14:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AR- I don&#039;t see how you can criticize the left for doing exactly what the right has been doing for 8 years. Conservative hosts like Bill O Reilly, Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity have passed on the right&#039;s talking points for years without a reality filter. The Bush administration has lost credibility with the public after it was found that they were lying about the progress of the war and the reasons for getting into it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AR- I don&#39;t see how you can criticize the left for doing exactly what the right has been doing for 8 years. Conservative hosts like Bill O Reilly, Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity have passed on the right&#39;s talking points for years without a reality filter. The Bush administration has lost credibility with the public after it was found that they were lying about the progress of the war and the reasons for getting into it.</p>
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		<title>By: Half_Past_Midnight</title>
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		<dc:creator>Half_Past_Midnight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 17:20:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Half_Past_Can&#039;t_Read,&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt;Oh yes I can.  I can read the words &quot;moral leadership&quot; associated with the name &quot;John Edwards&quot;, who commanded $55,000 per speech about &lt;b&gt;poverty.&lt;/b&gt;  That&#039;s beyond hypocritical.  Regulating the bedroom and marriages on the right?  Well, I am a right-leaning libertarian, but if you are saying that the left has no interest in setting a standard for marriage, you might only be speaking for yourself.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The point is, John Edwards says he  is representing moral standards by proclaiming leadership.  Morality is not selective.  He could have chosen to be a good example, but did not and admitted to being self-absorbed.  (Don&#039;t be lazy, google it.  It&#039;s common knowledge about Edwards who have read his quotes.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Half_Past_Can&#39;t_Read,</p></blockquote>
<p>Oh yes I can.  I can read the words &#8220;moral leadership&#8221; associated with the name &#8220;John Edwards&#8221;, who commanded $55,000 per speech about <b>poverty.</b>  That&#39;s beyond hypocritical.  Regulating the bedroom and marriages on the right?  Well, I am a right-leaning libertarian, but if you are saying that the left has no interest in setting a standard for marriage, you might only be speaking for yourself.</p>
<p>The point is, John Edwards says he  is representing moral standards by proclaiming leadership.  Morality is not selective.  He could have chosen to be a good example, but did not and admitted to being self-absorbed.  (Don&#39;t be lazy, google it.  It&#39;s common knowledge about Edwards who have read his quotes.)</p>
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		<title>By: ChrisWWW</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChrisWWW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 12:48:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Half_Past_Can&#039;t_Read,&lt;br&gt;I don&#039;t see anything on that page about regulating the bedroom or marriages, or anything like what we see on the Right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Half_Past_Can&#39;t_Read,<br />I don&#39;t see anything on that page about regulating the bedroom or marriages, or anything like what we see on the Right.</p>
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		<title>By: Half_Past_Midnight</title>
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		<dc:creator>Half_Past_Midnight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 05:31:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Uh... exaggerate much?&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;John Edwards ~ Moral Leadership&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.johnedwards.com/moralleadership/&quot;&gt;http://www.johnedwards.com/moralleadership/&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Uh&#8230; exaggerate much?</p></blockquote>
<p>John Edwards ~ Moral Leadership</p>
<p><a href="http://www.johnedwards.com/moralleadership/">http://www.johnedwards.com/moralleadership/</a></p>
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		<title>By: ChrisWWW</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChrisWWW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 04:14:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;having affairs and children out of wedlock while proclaiming yourself &lt;i&gt;the defender of modern morality&lt;/I&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt;Uh... exaggerate much?&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>having affairs and children out of wedlock while proclaiming yourself <i>the defender of modern morality</i></p></blockquote>
<p>Uh&#8230; exaggerate much?</p>
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		<title>By: JSpencer</title>
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		<dc:creator>JSpencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 02:25:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cute little diatribe. Are we feeling all better now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cute little diatribe. Are we feeling all better now?</p>
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		<title>By: AustinRoth</title>
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		<dc:creator>AustinRoth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 01:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Left believes the truth is what they decide it is. Remember, there is no objective morality; it is all subjective. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If a Left politician is involved, whether it is killing your pregnant girlfriend in river, getting blow-jobs and sticking cigars up a 19 year old intern&#039;s twat in the Oval Office, or having affairs and children out of wedlock while proclaiming yourself the defender of modern morality, then nothing bad really happened. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Because they are good people, as proven by the fact they are Leftist. Only Right-leaning people do bad things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Left believes the truth is what they decide it is. Remember, there is no objective morality; it is all subjective. </p>
<p>If a Left politician is involved, whether it is killing your pregnant girlfriend in river, getting blow-jobs and sticking cigars up a 19 year old intern&#39;s twat in the Oval Office, or having affairs and children out of wedlock while proclaiming yourself the defender of modern morality, then nothing bad really happened. </p>
<p>Because they are good people, as proven by the fact they are Leftist. Only Right-leaning people do bad things.</p>
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		<title>By: JSpencer</title>
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		<dc:creator>JSpencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 20:06:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve found it interesting (and disappointing) seeing how some of the left-leaning folks are willing to adopt a rather dismissive attitude about this story. The revelation that any seeker of public office has willfully and deliberately betrayed his supporters should be met with condemnation. And the most vehement condemnation should come from those who were betrayed, which in this case, would be the former Edwards supporters - and by extension democrats in general. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The point isn&#039;t about comparing him to conservative hypocrites (regardless of how legion they are), or about how much a persons sex life is their own business, or about the importance of advocating for the disadvantaged. It&#039;s (very simply) about the fact that had Edwards become the nominee, this lie would have thrown the election, and it would have been because Edwards deliberately misrepresented himself. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This isn&#039;t rocket science folks, it&#039;s about truth in advertising, integrity, and what constitutes betrayal. It&#039;s ultimately not even about partisanship... or at least it shouldn&#039;t be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;ve found it interesting (and disappointing) seeing how some of the left-leaning folks are willing to adopt a rather dismissive attitude about this story. The revelation that any seeker of public office has willfully and deliberately betrayed his supporters should be met with condemnation. And the most vehement condemnation should come from those who were betrayed, which in this case, would be the former Edwards supporters &#8211; and by extension democrats in general. </p>
<p>The point isn&#39;t about comparing him to conservative hypocrites (regardless of how legion they are), or about how much a persons sex life is their own business, or about the importance of advocating for the disadvantaged. It&#39;s (very simply) about the fact that had Edwards become the nominee, this lie would have thrown the election, and it would have been because Edwards deliberately misrepresented himself. </p>
<p>This isn&#39;t rocket science folks, it&#39;s about truth in advertising, integrity, and what constitutes betrayal. It&#39;s ultimately not even about partisanship&#8230; or at least it shouldn&#39;t be.</p>
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		<title>By: No Kidding, John. Take The Damned Test</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 19:22:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: No Kidding, John. Take The Damned Test</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 18:34:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Loviatar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Loviatar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 17:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow Shaun,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Pimp it baby, Pimp it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You&#039;ve now connected this story to Clinton, I see a Pulitzer in your horizon. Either that or a pair of binoculars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow Shaun,</p>
<p>Pimp it baby, Pimp it.</p>
<p>You&#39;ve now connected this story to Clinton, I see a Pulitzer in your horizon. Either that or a pair of binoculars.</p>
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		<title>By: Marlowecan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marlowecan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 16:56:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Further:  The NYT public editor notes, but does not agree with, the paper&#039;s editors claim that the McCain story was because the woman he was rumored to have an affair with was a lobbyist.  But if the story was to indicate McCain&#039;s links to a lobbyist, why throw in the rumor - with absolutely no foundation (notably less than with Edwards) - of an extramarital affair?  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;A totally unnecessary reference . . . as most media commentators noted . . . except as a political smear against a GOP candidate by an openly Democratic newspaper.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/10/opinion/10pubed.html?_r=2&amp;partner=rssuserland&amp;emc=rss&amp;oref=slogin&amp;oref=slogin&quot;&gt;http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/10/opinion/10pub...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Further:  The NYT public editor notes, but does not agree with, the paper&#39;s editors claim that the McCain story was because the woman he was rumored to have an affair with was a lobbyist.  But if the story was to indicate McCain&#39;s links to a lobbyist, why throw in the rumor &#8211; with absolutely no foundation (notably less than with Edwards) &#8211; of an extramarital affair?  </p>
<p>A totally unnecessary reference . . . as most media commentators noted . . . except as a political smear against a GOP candidate by an openly Democratic newspaper.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/10/opinion/10pubed.html?_r=2&#038;partner=rssuserland&#038;emc=rss&#038;oref=slogin&#038;oref=slogin">http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/10/opinion/10pub&#8230;</a></p>
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		<title>By: Marlowecan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marlowecan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 16:49:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JoyP said:  &quot;Let&#039;s get on to more substantiative issues.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The Edwards Affair is a &quot;substantive issue&quot; precisely because of the unprecedented American media embargo on this story.   It reminds one of the famous &quot;Edward and Mrs Simpson&quot; British press embargo in the 30s.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Essentially, the liberal media were protecting their favorite - married to a woman they admired.  Today, they are trying to pretend it was not liberal bias.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It is remarkable to read the logical twists and convolutions of the New York Times editor to justify why a rumor of McCain&#039;s affair justified front page coverage . . .  AT PRECISELY THE SAME TIME that rumors of Edwards affair were circulating, and he was still a candidate, and the NYT absolutely refused to look into them.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Old liberal View:  These are only rumors.  More important stories out there - like John McCain&#039;s extramarital affair rumors.  MoveOn MoveOn&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;New liberal View:  Extramarital affairs are a private matter.  MoveOn MoveOn&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Edwards, slimeball to the end, referenced McCain&#039;s 30 year old affair in his TV appearance.  An interesting bookend to his moral outrage in condemning Bill Clinton&#039;s betrayal of his &quot;precious daughter&quot; at the beginning of Edwards political career in Washington. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Progressives are chomping at the bit, demanding that McCain be asked questions about his affair 30 years ago.  A mistake, for one reason/two words:  &lt;br&gt;Obama. Cocaine.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;(I can hear the NYT editor explaining that one in a month&#039;s time:   &quot;In the wake of the Edwards affair, we have revisited our policy, and decided that all presidential candidates must answer questions about their extramarital affairs, rumored or otherwise.  Any history of illegal drug use, however, we regard as a personal matter.&quot;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JoyP said:  &#8220;Let&#39;s get on to more substantiative issues.&#8221;</p>
<p>The Edwards Affair is a &#8220;substantive issue&#8221; precisely because of the unprecedented American media embargo on this story.   It reminds one of the famous &#8220;Edward and Mrs Simpson&#8221; British press embargo in the 30s.</p>
<p>Essentially, the liberal media were protecting their favorite &#8211; married to a woman they admired.  Today, they are trying to pretend it was not liberal bias.</p>
<p>It is remarkable to read the logical twists and convolutions of the New York Times editor to justify why a rumor of McCain&#39;s affair justified front page coverage . . .  AT PRECISELY THE SAME TIME that rumors of Edwards affair were circulating, and he was still a candidate, and the NYT absolutely refused to look into them.</p>
<p>Old liberal View:  These are only rumors.  More important stories out there &#8211; like John McCain&#39;s extramarital affair rumors.  MoveOn MoveOn</p>
<p>New liberal View:  Extramarital affairs are a private matter.  MoveOn MoveOn</p>
<p>Edwards, slimeball to the end, referenced McCain&#39;s 30 year old affair in his TV appearance.  An interesting bookend to his moral outrage in condemning Bill Clinton&#39;s betrayal of his &#8220;precious daughter&#8221; at the beginning of Edwards political career in Washington. </p>
<p>Progressives are chomping at the bit, demanding that McCain be asked questions about his affair 30 years ago.  A mistake, for one reason/two words:  <br />Obama. Cocaine.</p>
<p>(I can hear the NYT editor explaining that one in a month&#39;s time:   &#8220;In the wake of the Edwards affair, we have revisited our policy, and decided that all presidential candidates must answer questions about their extramarital affairs, rumored or otherwise.  Any history of illegal drug use, however, we regard as a personal matter.&#8221;)</p>
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		<title>By: JoyP</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 15:16:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since he&#039;s not running for office, not even dogcatcher, and not likely a nominee for any Cabinet position in the Obama administration, I could care less about this now.   Obviously his judgment was not good and neither the commitment.  It&#039;s his family&#039;s problem.  Not mine.  Let&#039;s get on to more substantiative issues</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since he&#39;s not running for office, not even dogcatcher, and not likely a nominee for any Cabinet position in the Obama administration, I could care less about this now.   Obviously his judgment was not good and neither the commitment.  It&#39;s his family&#39;s problem.  Not mine.  Let&#39;s get on to more substantiative issues</p>
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		<title>By: kritt11</title>
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		<dc:creator>kritt11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 14:56:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He won&#039;t take the test because he&#039;s probably the dad. By not taking it, he keeps the story alive as well as his newly earned reputation as a serial liar. Eugene Robinson has an editorial in WaPo where he wonders why a financial backer of Edwards met with his girlfriend. Afterwards, she no longer was interested in the paternity test. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It makes me question his judgement and his commitment to his family.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He won&#39;t take the test because he&#39;s probably the dad. By not taking it, he keeps the story alive as well as his newly earned reputation as a serial liar. Eugene Robinson has an editorial in WaPo where he wonders why a financial backer of Edwards met with his girlfriend. Afterwards, she no longer was interested in the paternity test. </p>
<p>It makes me question his judgement and his commitment to his family.</p>
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