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		<title>By: Neocon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neocon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 15:23:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And Russia&#039;s build up is ALL fueled by soaring Oil and Gas prices.</description>
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		<title>By: elrod</title>
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		<dc:creator>elrod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 02:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did DLS just have a conversation with himself? I can&#039;t follow the chronology of these posts.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Anyway, on the situation in Georgia, the reason McCain is on dangerous ground here is that Saakashvili is not exactly a model democratic player.  He&#039;s in the right about stopping Putin. But he&#039;s in the wrong re: taking Abkhazia and South Ossetia. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;All of this begs the big question: what do we do when one of our democratically elected allies does something stupid?  The answer: prevent our democratically elected ally from doing something stupid in the first place. So, why did Saak think he could go ahead and retake Tschingvari without consequence? Did he really think the West believed South Ossetia is forever Georgian? &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Usually you shouldn&#039;t miss the forest (Russia-US relations) for the trees (South Ossetia/Abkhazia). But in this instance, you can&#039;t ignore the trees either.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There are no good guys here. Trying to make it such, as McCain-Schuenemann is doing, sounds dangerously close to Iraq circa 2003.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did DLS just have a conversation with himself? I can&#39;t follow the chronology of these posts.</p>
<p>Anyway, on the situation in Georgia, the reason McCain is on dangerous ground here is that Saakashvili is not exactly a model democratic player.  He&#39;s in the right about stopping Putin. But he&#39;s in the wrong re: taking Abkhazia and South Ossetia. </p>
<p>All of this begs the big question: what do we do when one of our democratically elected allies does something stupid?  The answer: prevent our democratically elected ally from doing something stupid in the first place. So, why did Saak think he could go ahead and retake Tschingvari without consequence? Did he really think the West believed South Ossetia is forever Georgian? </p>
<p>Usually you shouldn&#39;t miss the forest (Russia-US relations) for the trees (South Ossetia/Abkhazia). But in this instance, you can&#39;t ignore the trees either.</p>
<p>There are no good guys here. Trying to make it such, as McCain-Schuenemann is doing, sounds dangerously close to Iraq circa 2003.</p>
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		<title>By: jdledell</title>
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		<dc:creator>jdledell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 23:38:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Second step is to show that NATO still exists and that Bush&#039;s prattle about Democracy is not just the empty exhalations...&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;daveinboca - Which country in NATO do you honestly think would send troops to Georgia to fight the Russians? Do you think McCain is crazy enough to fight the Russians all by ourselves? We can barely handle the Iraqis and Afgans, how do you think our overstretched military would handle the Russians on their territory. Yes our Air Force could wreck havoc but without boots on the ground, Georgia would be lost. Get Real.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Second step is to show that NATO still exists and that Bush&#39;s prattle about Democracy is not just the empty exhalations&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>daveinboca &#8211; Which country in NATO do you honestly think would send troops to Georgia to fight the Russians? Do you think McCain is crazy enough to fight the Russians all by ourselves? We can barely handle the Iraqis and Afgans, how do you think our overstretched military would handle the Russians on their territory. Yes our Air Force could wreck havoc but without boots on the ground, Georgia would be lost. Get Real.</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 22:15:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;This is an opportunity for McCain to demonstrate why he is the candidate that will at least assert American interests&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;ABSOLUTELY.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Meanwhile, why doesn&#039;t Obama have words for Russia similar to those for Sudan, at least?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;This is an opportunity for McCain to demonstrate why he is the candidate that will at least assert American interests&#8221;</p>
<p>ABSOLUTELY.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, why doesn&#39;t Obama have words for Russia similar to those for Sudan, at least?</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 22:13:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;new energy and energy efficiency alternatives ASAP&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In this case, it means 10-20 years if not longer.  That&#039;s the real world.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Changing to this is not the sole logical, or even a logical, conclusion from Bruno&#039;s current mischief.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;new energy and energy efficiency alternatives ASAP&#8221;</p>
<p>In this case, it means 10-20 years if not longer.  That&#39;s the real world.</p>
<p>Changing to this is not the sole logical, or even a logical, conclusion from Bruno&#39;s current mischief.</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 22:10:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Europe&#039;s heartland, not only the other nations bordering Russia, are going to be quiet because they need Russia&#039;s GAZ.  [scene of Russian pipeline workers spinning valves on pipelines whistling to the tune of &quot;Frosty, the Snowman&quot;]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Europe&#39;s heartland, not only the other nations bordering Russia, are going to be quiet because they need Russia&#39;s GAZ.  [scene of Russian pipeline workers spinning valves on pipelines whistling to the tune of "Frosty, the Snowman"]</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 22:08:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Support US interests, Dave in Boca, at least the more ethereal things that normally the Left gushes about but who is absent wher e it counts, US interests and standing up to adversaries and to tyranny, as you correctly identified.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;All but the truly-fringe &quot;Carter and Clinton, imperialist warmongers&quot; Left were not merely silent about Clinton&#039;s bailing out Europe in the Bosnian situation, which were less in our interests than other conflicts; they were ecstatic about the misuse of our military to support the restoration to power of Marxist-style president Aristide in Haiti, something that was not in US interests at all.  Count on them to be against our standing up to Bruno, given his Soviet legacy that still leaves many of them wistful.  (&quot;The wrong side lost the Cold War!&quot;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Support US interests, Dave in Boca, at least the more ethereal things that normally the Left gushes about but who is absent wher e it counts, US interests and standing up to adversaries and to tyranny, as you correctly identified.</p>
<p>All but the truly-fringe &#8220;Carter and Clinton, imperialist warmongers&#8221; Left were not merely silent about Clinton&#39;s bailing out Europe in the Bosnian situation, which were less in our interests than other conflicts; they were ecstatic about the misuse of our military to support the restoration to power of Marxist-style president Aristide in Haiti, something that was not in US interests at all.  Count on them to be against our standing up to Bruno, given his Soviet legacy that still leaves many of them wistful.  (&#8221;The wrong side lost the Cold War!&#8221;)</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 22:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What would the most childish people do if we were found to have provided mines and anti-aircraft weapons and other things to the Georgians or even to hear the Bush people hint at sending our forces into the Caucasus?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What would the most childish people do if we were found to have provided mines and anti-aircraft weapons and other things to the Georgians or even to hear the Bush people hint at sending our forces into the Caucasus?</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/21648/analysis-obama-mccain-and-the-russian-conundrum/comment-page-1/#comment-121094</link>
		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 22:01:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>UN -- world government -- not taken seriously by serious people.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;At least for Obama and the Dems&#039; sake, this is happening now rather than in the last week before the November elections.  While the public is burned out on Iraq and &quot;Dems are soft on terrorism as they are on crime&quot; failed to deliver for the GOP in 2006 as it did in 2002 and 2004, a separate event (as would be the case with Iranian naval mischief in the Persian Gulf or in Lebanon, more open and greater mischief than is the case today) might bring back this problem for the Dems, as would any idiotic hints at a return to the failed 1960s-era Democratic agenda of the Left.  (Deservedly so, of course.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UN &#8212; world government &#8212; not taken seriously by serious people.</p>
<p>At least for Obama and the Dems&#39; sake, this is happening now rather than in the last week before the November elections.  While the public is burned out on Iraq and &#8220;Dems are soft on terrorism as they are on crime&#8221; failed to deliver for the GOP in 2006 as it did in 2002 and 2004, a separate event (as would be the case with Iranian naval mischief in the Persian Gulf or in Lebanon, more open and greater mischief than is the case today) might bring back this problem for the Dems, as would any idiotic hints at a return to the failed 1960s-era Democratic agenda of the Left.  (Deservedly so, of course.)</p>
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		<title>By: Jazz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jazz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 19:43:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;If the proprietor of this blog were not so in-the-tank for Obama, he would agree that that is the only real first step.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thank God you came along. For the last week or more, with all of the posts on energy policy and education, I had been called &quot;in the tank for McCain&quot; so often I was beginning to believe it myself. Now that I&#039;m in the tank for Obama, things look so much brighter and unicorny! (Unless you meant Joe Gandelman, in terms of the &quot;proprietor&quot; in which case you just don&#039;t have any command of the English Language.) &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;How the phrase &quot;devoid of teeth and specificity&quot; regarding Obama could be taken as &quot;in the tank&quot; for him is a mystery, unless of course, one were a blind partisan hack, but that&#039;s... oh, wait... never mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>If the proprietor of this blog were not so in-the-tank for Obama, he would agree that that is the only real first step.</i></p>
<p>Thank God you came along. For the last week or more, with all of the posts on energy policy and education, I had been called &#8220;in the tank for McCain&#8221; so often I was beginning to believe it myself. Now that I&#39;m in the tank for Obama, things look so much brighter and unicorny! (Unless you meant Joe Gandelman, in terms of the &#8220;proprietor&#8221; in which case you just don&#39;t have any command of the English Language.) </p>
<p>How the phrase &#8220;devoid of teeth and specificity&#8221; regarding Obama could be taken as &#8220;in the tank&#8221; for him is a mystery, unless of course, one were a blind partisan hack, but that&#39;s&#8230; oh, wait&#8230; never mind.</p>
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		<title>By: daveinboca</title>
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		<dc:creator>daveinboca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 18:44:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;While Obama’s comments are devoid of both teeth and specificity, they may still prove to be superior to McCain’s rehtoric on this situation.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Appearances to the contrary notwithstanding?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Let&#039;s see.   John McCain is chided for calling for the UNSC to meet?  Because Russia will veto the outcome?  That is called diplomacy, and Obama&#039;s feckless hapless 3AM punt demonstrates that he is Carter Redux, just as McCain is making the best of a bad situation.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Russia should be forced to justify its invasion in the UNSC.  McCain is correct.  If the proprietor of this blog were not so in-the-tank for Obama, he would agree that that is the only real first step.  Second step is to show that NATO still exists and that Bush&#039;s prattle about Democracy is not just the empty exhalations that most of his pronouncements have been concerning the USSR-reborn that Putin is fashioning.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This is an opportunity for McCain to demonstrate why he is the candidate that will at least assert American interests in a region where we have already many energy &amp; &quot;democracy&quot; interests, including the nascent democracy in Georgia, which Russian tyranny dearly wants to crush.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Bush is hiding in his bolt-hole, enjoying his old stomping grounds in Beijing [where my FSO buddies told me he used to party-hearty while his poppy was Ambassador in the seventies.]  It&#039;ll be hard for this fellow to do anything but look in the other direction.  Maybe Condi can grow a set &amp; make GWB look like the frat-boy he appears to be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>While Obama’s comments are devoid of both teeth and specificity, they may still prove to be superior to McCain’s rehtoric on this situation.</i></p>
<p>Appearances to the contrary notwithstanding?</p>
<p>Let&#39;s see.   John McCain is chided for calling for the UNSC to meet?  Because Russia will veto the outcome?  That is called diplomacy, and Obama&#39;s feckless hapless 3AM punt demonstrates that he is Carter Redux, just as McCain is making the best of a bad situation.</p>
<p>Russia should be forced to justify its invasion in the UNSC.  McCain is correct.  If the proprietor of this blog were not so in-the-tank for Obama, he would agree that that is the only real first step.  Second step is to show that NATO still exists and that Bush&#39;s prattle about Democracy is not just the empty exhalations that most of his pronouncements have been concerning the USSR-reborn that Putin is fashioning.</p>
<p>This is an opportunity for McCain to demonstrate why he is the candidate that will at least assert American interests in a region where we have already many energy &#038; &#8220;democracy&#8221; interests, including the nascent democracy in Georgia, which Russian tyranny dearly wants to crush.</p>
<p>Bush is hiding in his bolt-hole, enjoying his old stomping grounds in Beijing [where my FSO buddies told me he used to party-hearty while his poppy was Ambassador in the seventies.]  It&#39;ll be hard for this fellow to do anything but look in the other direction.  Maybe Condi can grow a set &#038; make GWB look like the frat-boy he appears to be.</p>
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		<title>By: Analysis: Obama, McCain and The Russian Conundrum</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 17:14:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Silhouette</title>
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		<dc:creator>Silhouette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 17:00:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The US (well certain BigOil factions of it) set the ball rolling by invading a sovereign nation to control oil.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think those Russians are being cheeky and putting one right back in our face citing a need &quot;to protect our territory from being overtaken&quot;.  If you think about it, logically, they know why the US is in Iraq.  Everyone but US citizens seem to know that.  And their thought is probably if they don&#039;t secure their former State of Georgia, the US will march right in and take that too.  In fact, when Iran threatened to shut down the Strait Of Hormuz, the Russians took notice.  But remember, BigOil got the ball rolling on all of this.  The lies to Congress, invading a SOVEREIGN nation, killing its citizens, all in the name of oil.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;How can we condemn the Russians without looking bad ourselves?  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And as to who this invasion favors politically in our presidential race?  Well, let&#039;s just say it puts the short pants right back on Obama, and sticks a lollipop in his hand for good measure..&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The democrats better nominate a stronger candidate or we are finished.  Actually, the world could use the proven diplomacy and international respect of one of our former presidents....oh, nevermind....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The US (well certain BigOil factions of it) set the ball rolling by invading a sovereign nation to control oil.</p>
<p>I think those Russians are being cheeky and putting one right back in our face citing a need &#8220;to protect our territory from being overtaken&#8221;.  If you think about it, logically, they know why the US is in Iraq.  Everyone but US citizens seem to know that.  And their thought is probably if they don&#39;t secure their former State of Georgia, the US will march right in and take that too.  In fact, when Iran threatened to shut down the Strait Of Hormuz, the Russians took notice.  But remember, BigOil got the ball rolling on all of this.  The lies to Congress, invading a SOVEREIGN nation, killing its citizens, all in the name of oil.  </p>
<p>How can we condemn the Russians without looking bad ourselves?  </p>
<p>And as to who this invasion favors politically in our presidential race?  Well, let&#39;s just say it puts the short pants right back on Obama, and sticks a lollipop in his hand for good measure..</p>
<p>The democrats better nominate a stronger candidate or we are finished.  Actually, the world could use the proven diplomacy and international respect of one of our former presidents&#8230;.oh, nevermind&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: mikkel</title>
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		<dc:creator>mikkel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 16:46:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Russia is also free to be belligerent because there are few political consequences for them doing so. When the world is tried/frightened of US dominance then they are more willing to let countries like Russia and China in the front door. The old Cold War method of &quot;winning the war of ideas&quot; and all that. Strengthening our image would severely constrain them. In things like this it&#039;s all about political maneuvering.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Russia is also free to be belligerent because there are few political consequences for them doing so. When the world is tried/frightened of US dominance then they are more willing to let countries like Russia and China in the front door. The old Cold War method of &#8220;winning the war of ideas&#8221; and all that. Strengthening our image would severely constrain them. In things like this it&#39;s all about political maneuvering.</p>
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		<title>By: ChrisWWW</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChrisWWW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 16:19:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It might also be worth noting that McCain&#039;s top foreign policy adviser, &quot;Randall Scheunemann, lobbied for the nation of Georgia for four years, including for about a year after he joined the Republican senator’s presidential campaign staff in early 2007.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homepage/story/46982.html&quot;&gt;http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homepage/story/46982...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It might also be worth noting that McCain&#39;s top foreign policy adviser, &#8220;Randall Scheunemann, lobbied for the nation of Georgia for four years, including for about a year after he joined the Republican senator’s presidential campaign staff in early 2007.&#8221;<br /><a href="http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homepage/story/46982.html"></a><a href="http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homepage/story/46982.." rel="nofollow">http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homepage/story/46982..</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Ricorun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ricorun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 16:14:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is (partly) for reasons of this sort that I strongly advocate the development and deployment of new energy and energy efficiency alternatives ASAP. Thomas Friedman, not one of my favorite pundits, wrote an article in the NYT a couple of months back pointing out the inverse relationship between oil prices and the tendency for nations to move in the direction of democracy. Or, in other words, the higher oil prices are the more likely are totalitarian influences. IMO, that&#039;s true of both exporting countries and importing countries. Russia is a particularly noteworthy example. As oil prices rose Putin moved to nationalize oil and natural gas interests. Now he is using them as a cudgel. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Many months ago, before he got caught up in his &quot;drill here, drill now, pay less&quot; crusade, made essentially the same point as Friedman. In his case he noted that one of the big reasons we maintain such a large military force is to protect our energy interests around the world. There are other considerations to be sure, but If we didn&#039;t have to do that we could cut back.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We in the US are not the only ones that can benefit from better energy security, either. However, we more than any other nation possess the expertise and infrastructure to develop the necessary technologies to make it happen. I am thoroughly convinced that smart investment in new energy and energy efficiency technologies, although it may be more expensive in the short term, can pay off immensely in the long term -- both economically and politically, tactically and strategically.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is (partly) for reasons of this sort that I strongly advocate the development and deployment of new energy and energy efficiency alternatives ASAP. Thomas Friedman, not one of my favorite pundits, wrote an article in the NYT a couple of months back pointing out the inverse relationship between oil prices and the tendency for nations to move in the direction of democracy. Or, in other words, the higher oil prices are the more likely are totalitarian influences. IMO, that&#39;s true of both exporting countries and importing countries. Russia is a particularly noteworthy example. As oil prices rose Putin moved to nationalize oil and natural gas interests. Now he is using them as a cudgel. </p>
<p>Many months ago, before he got caught up in his &#8220;drill here, drill now, pay less&#8221; crusade, made essentially the same point as Friedman. In his case he noted that one of the big reasons we maintain such a large military force is to protect our energy interests around the world. There are other considerations to be sure, but If we didn&#39;t have to do that we could cut back.</p>
<p>We in the US are not the only ones that can benefit from better energy security, either. However, we more than any other nation possess the expertise and infrastructure to develop the necessary technologies to make it happen. I am thoroughly convinced that smart investment in new energy and energy efficiency technologies, although it may be more expensive in the short term, can pay off immensely in the long term &#8212; both economically and politically, tactically and strategically.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom71</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 15:49:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While Russia may not be a &quot;paper tiger&quot;, let&#039;s not exaggerate their military prowness either:  Their naval forces weren&#039;t that great even during the Cold War, their aircraft were always nearly a generation behind NATO&#039;s, and their nuclear forces were always at a lower level of readiness than the US.  And now, with a military budget that, in 2005, was 1/8th of the US (not including Iraq/Afghanistan spending), they&#039;re not exactly a major threat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While Russia may not be a &#8220;paper tiger&#8221;, let&#39;s not exaggerate their military prowness either:  Their naval forces weren&#39;t that great even during the Cold War, their aircraft were always nearly a generation behind NATO&#39;s, and their nuclear forces were always at a lower level of readiness than the US.  And now, with a military budget that, in 2005, was 1/8th of the US (not including Iraq/Afghanistan spending), they&#39;re not exactly a major threat.</p>
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