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10 Thoughts On The John Edwards Affair

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(1.) The mainstream media let us down yet again by failing to take seriously first rumors and then credible accounts of the John Edwards-Rielle Hunter affair until there was so much smoke that it’s a wonder that all of those notably uncurious political reporters weren’t barfing into their arugula salads.

(2.) The New York Times deserves special scorn after running an innuendo-filled piece on an alleged affair between John McCain and a lobbyist but being struck deaf and dumb over the Edwards story, then piously explaining in a story posted after Edwards’ confession on the media’s obdurance that the world’s once greatest newspaper hadn’t found anything solid enough to report.

(3.) I take no pleasure in having gotten this one right some time ago, as well as having correctly noted that the National Enquirer, which broke the story and rode it hard, is far more respectable — or perhaps far less unrespectable — than its longtime reputation as “trash,” as Edwards himself had so dismissively put it until he was smoked out.

(4.)
Too many left-of-center bloggers, suffocatingly self-righteous when it comes to the failings and flailings of Republicans, were weepily at sea when the story broke. “Not quite sure what to make of it,” wrote one at Talking Points Memo. Well, let me explain: This married guy thought of himself as a train and liked to locomote into a certain tunnel . . .

(5.) Political bloggers who say that they could care less about the affair and write stuff like “it’s time for Americans to grow up” need to do some maturing themselves because they’re giving politicians in general and adulterous politicians in particular a big fat free pass to obfuscate and lie at will.

(6.) Like Gary Hart, Bill Clinton and Eliot Spitzer, among many other pols before him, Edwards showed a narcissistic and impulsive streak that blinded him to the recklessness and even danger of his actions. I tried hard to like Edwards because he was one of the very few people willing to address poverty in America, but what if he had become the nominee or even president?

(7.) While Elizabeth Edwards deserves sympathy, she’s not off the hook, either. She was key to the cover-up and her husband’s continuing campaign, while noting in her own statement that her now-incurable cancer was in remission when her husband was screwing Hunter, as if that explains or forgives anything. Oh, and that the Enquirer is still to blame.

(8.) Edwards said he had been “99 percent honest [but that] is no longer enough,” a pathetic statement in and of itself, and that he won’t have any more to say. Sorry, John Boy, but you have a helluva lot more explaining to do, specifically to your contributors about funny business with campaign money that went to Hunter, perhaps to buy her silence.

(9.) There is indeed an intimation in Edwards’ confession on “Nightline” that Hunter might have tried to extort money from he or his campaign and perhaps he was a victim of a sort. If there was a criminal act, Edwards should report it to the FBI.

(10.) Finally, it’s obvious that when it comes to “getting it,” Edwards himself remains clueless as to the damage he has done to his wife and family, his many devoted supporters and perhaps even Hunter herself by saying that he didn’t love her, didn’t father her child, and fessed up to Elizabeth two years ago. As if adultery and violating the public trust are some kind of adjustable wrench.

Photograph from Extra via The Associated Press

  • superdestroyer
    Does the way that the MSM responded also demonstrate that the MSM still refuses that the internet exists. The interenet was full of the stories of Edwards. All the MSM could have hope was that the story was not true and would blow over. Any other outcome would have made them look foolish.
  • Neocon
    number 10 is what bothers me the most and it is what I see in nearly every politician.

    they all are so used to power and reckless power that they start believing they can do anything.........and many do.

    Clinton, Kennedy, Spitzer, Foley, Craig,........whoever else Im missing.........just prove over and over and over again how stupid voters are and how desperately we need term limits.

    Term limits and a balanced budget and Id be one happy camper. Hell Id even let the country be 99 percent far left greenies if you gave me those two things in a constitutional amendment.
  • Don Quijote
    Term limits and a balanced budget and Id be one happy camper. Hell Id even let the country be 99 percent far left greenies if you gave me those two things in a constitutional amendment.


    I'll support your balance budget amendment, as soon as we pass the Military Expenses Amendment, Congressional Representation Amendment and the Senatorial Representation Amendment.

    Defense expenses( DOD, Intelligence, Department of Energy & Veterans Administration ) will be capped at 1% of GDP unless the congress declares war.

    No congressional district can have more that 500,000 resident

    No Senator can represent more than 10% of the US population
  • Marlowecan
    Shaun's 10-point list is flawless. Well done!

    Yes, the mendacity and hypocrisy of the New York Times' defense -- for its front page coverage of McCain's "affair" on scant evidence, and a total refusal to even look into rumors of Edwards' affair, while both were running for president -- is yet another low mark in the Grey Lady's decline.

    I agree with Shaun that someone should talk about poverty in America -- "class", not race or homosexuality, is the issue "that dare not speak its name" in American politics -- but I always believed Edwards was phony on the issue.

    He shifted his politics when he realized the progressives were there to be played.

    For Democratic defenders of Edwards, just think: Edwards' narcissism is such that, had he been the nominee as many progressives wanted, you would now be looking at the near certainty of a McCain presidency by default!
  • adjustable wrench... I love it!
  • JSpencer
    Frankly, I'm disgusted. What are all the people who supported him for nominee supposed to think? They placed their trust in a person who was hiding a lie that would have thrown the election when the truth came out. If he wasn't in a position of seeking and depending on the public trust, this would all be a private matter, but under the circumstances it's yet another breach of integrity, yet another betrayal of the public trust, and a HUGE betrayal of those who supported him.

    OK then, isn't this the point where Silhouette comes on and says something about Larry Sinclair???
  • Lit3Bolt
    I'm really disappointed in left of center blogs. Edwards' conduct was unforgivable but hearing lefty blog after blog mewl about "privacy," and "no one cares but the evil MSM" is even worse. Especially after the incessant chortles and unmitigated glee following sordid details about Larry Craig and Mark Foley, for lefty blogs to stand silent on this issue, and not express one ounce or iota of regret or shock at their betrayal by this slimeball, then THEIR integrity now stands doubtful. (I'm looking at YOU, Shakesville. Nice "feminist" blog you have there.)

    What's even more disgusting is he's going on TV so to help the MSM with his "mea culpa." The media, of course, is more than willing to let bygones be bygones as long as he adjusts the drip drip drip of sordid details so to give this story "legs" for a long time.

    Edwards is slime. I hope he never finds work again.
  • If he wasn't in a position of seeking and depending on the public trust, this would all be a private matter, but under the circumstances it's yet another breach of integrity, yet another betrayal of the public trust, and a HUGE betrayal of those who supported him.


    Oh come on. Please try and keep things in perspective.

    Edwards cheated on his wife, and lied about it. Woop-dee-f***ing-doo. That puts him the esteemed company of half of Washington D.C., 90% of the Republican Party, all of Hollywood and probably a quarter of the entire United States.

    Sure it's an awful thing to do, to his wife. But it's not a "huge betrayal" of those who supported him.
  • Especially after the incessant chortles and unmitigated glee following sordid details about Larry Craig and Mark Foley,


    Larry Craig was a hypocrite. He sought to punish the same behavior he exhibited in others (like Bill Clinton).

    Mark Foley was fooling around with congressional TEENAGE PAGES while spearheading laws against sexual offenders. There is a big difference between that, and standard adultery.
  • azizhp
    I must note that I was one of the few political bloggers - and the sole lefty political blogger, who favored Edwards for Veep - to take the story seriously. I also diaried it at DailyKos and was predictably flamed into oblivion
  • azizhp
    Further thoughts here. I wish I'd been wrong.
  • Silhouette
    Ten thoughts?
    1. Who cares?
    2. Who cares?
    3. Who cares?
    4. Who cares?
    5. Who cares?
    6. Who cares?
    7. Who cares?
    8. Who cares?
    9. The demcrats SHOULD care.
    10. Obama's sex life is next...
  • DLS
    Excellent job, Shaun.

    The lying and the commonplace nature of this behavior (as if it's a prerequisite of modern politico-celebrity) is almost as bad as the core offense in cases like this.

    "As if adultery and violating the public trust are some kind of adjustable wrench."

    Cynical manipulation, indeed, Shaun!

    I could say more about the rehashing of typical toddler-level mentality since the 1960s toward personal and public conduct ("Who cares?" "This is just a hangup about sex") but the downright cynical manipulative behavior accompanying this misconduct is the key. Note that the media (celeb-obscessed) are accomplices and are part of how these days these kinds of misconduct are, again, _manipulated_ and stage-managed. That includes the "wife by his side" (some day, "husband by her side" and some years from now, "partner by [his or her] side") nonsense.

    What "enables" this? The lower-quality people who find it acceptable and even may defend it, is the answer. "Privacy" means two-year-old "I can do whatever I want!" etc.
  • DLS
    I composed my posting before Silhouette posted, but --

    1. It matters to normal, decent people, Sil.

    2. The woman deserves condemnation but I'm surprised there's not a groundswell of anti-female bile thrown at her by Edwards supporters the way some Obama people attacked Hillary Clinton, leading us normal people who disagree with her on political and policy issues to actually sympathize with her.

    I guess it's because Edwards is out of the race for President and so the cynical, manipulative people have Moved On to ignore this.

    3. As others have said, this is narcissism and self-absorption, a legacy of "rules don't matter" and "Question Authority." Look at the kind of people who actually defend people like Edwards and attack people who have better values (a larger fraction of the public than the others may believe). By the way, I don't want to pay for at least half the things I want to buy today. I want these things but why pay?

    4. What kind of people were fooled by Edwards's populist BS and his looks? Or Bill Clinton's charm, if he actually had any?

    5. Looks -- charm -- Obama -- "weepily at sea" is a warning to them. So far Obama looks clean (or has good damage control) and I don't see Obamaniacs acting like the young woman collapsed in shock on the floor after Jimmy Swaggart's confession, but the potential is there if McCain incredibly were to win.
  • DLS
    "But it's not a 'huge betrayal' of those who supported him."

    Not if you don't give a shit about things like honesty and integrity, at least.
  • zonefree
    Regarding comparisons to Mark Foley

    Mark Foley did not "fool around' with teenage pages. He sent smutty emails to a former page above the age of consent who responded in kind and possibly set him up. There was no sexual contact alleged or proven. He is not a pedophile. What he is is a gay Republican. Therefor the press went irresponsibly beserk.
  • Marlowecan
    ChrisWWW said: "Larry Craig was a hypocrite. He sought to punish the same behavior he exhibited in others (like Bill Clinton)."

    But Edwards is also a hypocrite, given his self-righteous public denunciations of Bill Clinton betraying his family, the American people etc. ... and even thinking this worthy of impeachment:
    "“I think this President has shown a remarkable disrespect for his office, for the moral dimensions of leadership, for his friends, for his wife, for his precious daughter. It is breathtaking to me the level to which that disrespect has risen."

    Re: Azizhp . . . it was fascinating to see this playing out on KOS . . . the flaming of any reference to Edwards, and now the reaction. It is especially interesting to see a number of commentors on diaries there now saying they agreed something was up, but were afraid to post anything for fear of being flamed into oblivion. How opinion is shaped in the blogosphere, I suppose.
  • Not if you don't give a shit about things like honesty and integrity, at least.


    I'm not part of the Christianut wing of the Republican party, so I'm not looking to vote for a paragon of sexual virtue.

    As long as Edwards wasn't looking to regulate my sex life, then I could care less about his (as long as he wasn't engaged in illegal activity).

    ______
    But Edwards is also a hypocrite, given his self-righteous public denunciations of Bill Clinton

    Let's be honest here. Do we ever take politicians seriously when they make those types of denunciations? Even if we had, it doesn't compare to, for example, closet homosexuals trying to pass laws discriminating against homosexuals.
  • Half_Past_Midnight
    Edwards cheated on his wife, and lied about it. Woop-dee-f***ing-doo.


    Great philosophy when using the word cheating. So nonchalant.

    Sure it's an awful thing to do, to his wife. But it's not a "huge betrayal" of those who supported him.


    True, Chris. He would have had to be on national television, shaking his finger at the American public while lying to them, and lying under oath to be a real disappointment to his supporters. Character does not require a magnifying glass to be measured. Speaking of lying under oath...

    Larry Craig was a hypocrite. He sought to punish the same behavior he exhibited in others (like Bill Clinton).
  • Weightman
    Let him be, you SOB's. Don't you understand that he's the son of a mill worker, with all the hearty proletarian appetites which that honorific title entails?
  • Half_Past_Midnight
    Shaun, I wanted to mention on number seven, although she should have focused more on her own health, it's hard to tell what someone is going to do if they are really sick and going through treatment. No, she's not completely off the hook, but sometimes we rely on the wrong advice to alleviate the stress of a situation. If she wants peace before she leaves this earth, it might be better for her to say she forgives him and let it go at that. This is the best thing for her rather than all these stories of "what happened when" that just puts more confusion in the controversy.
  • Watch as this story gets more coverage than Bush's continuing lies about torture and Iraq.
  • DLS
    It's been a couple of days, Chris, and you're stil in leave of your senses.

    Nothing I said is any way about the Religious Right -- except my accurate note about Swaggart and the Obamaniacs. Obama has made mistakes lately and you have demonstrated and exhibited misbehavior consistently since then toward anyone who has noticed the facts-- as we have noticed and noted about Edwards, too. Tsk, tsk. Here's to your recovering logic and better behavior someday even if it is going to take a while longer (if Obama doesn't recover, then hopefully by a McCain blunder to help bail y'all out).
  • DLS
    "Great philosophy when using the word 'cheating.' So nonchalant."

    Give the poor guy or gal a break. His or side is losing badly right now. Look at the possibly bright side (relatively, that is). It may not be a 100% failure, just kinda, sorta selective. [grin]
  • Loviatar
    ChrisWWW,

    I'm with you on this; my thoughts on the Edwards issue was so F@#$%^ what, another politician got caught putting his you know what into some not his spouse. I DON'T GIVE A F#$%. I only care that his actions do not impact his ability to create and implement policy that I consider best for our country.

    My support or non-support of Edwards is and was never contingent on him being a paragon of virtude in his personal life. I will however look at his personal actions and choices if I was to consider him as my choice to lead our country, but believe me they won't be the first and certainly not the only thing I consider in my president (I remember a quote from the Republicans about brining morality back to the White House).

    Also, I can't help but notice the smug self-righteous comments from Shaun and most of the commenters here; people the National Enquirer is where stories like this belong not as a leading story in our major newspapers for days on end. If the MSM spent halve as much time as they're going to spend on this story reporting the fact that John McCain's inflammatory comments about the Russian / Georgia war was crafted by his top Foreign Policy strategist who until recently (2 months ago) happened to be Georgia's top lobbiest in Washington.

    Finally, for the comparative challenged; Craig, Vitter, Foley and most of the post-Reagan republicans have made their political careers by tut, tutting moral failures of their opposition/Democrats, so they deserve a higher level of scorn and scrutiny (in spades) when they are caught out there. Democrats too should have their failings noted, but they at least as a party has not made it a regular part of their political strategy to tut, tut their opponents.


    Crap like this is why we're in Iraq and our economy is in the toilet. $%%^^& like most of you here can't put the proper perspective on what is personal and should be highlighted and discussed and what is private and should be noted and considered. Shaun, according to you, I guess because Edwards couldn't keep his willie in his pants, his thoughts and suggestion on alleviating poverty in the US shouldn't be considered seriously.

    All you self-righteous $%^^ are Peeping Tom Idiots ,all of you.
  • Half_Past_Midnight
    All you self-righteous $%^^ are Peeping Tom Idiots ,all of you.


    Hahaha! "Self-righteous". That's a good one. :)
  • Lit3Bolt
    Lovitar, stop. You're embarrassing yourself. Edwards made himself into the "family man," the "son of the mill worker" blah the fuck blah BS that he OBVIOUSLY DID NOT BELIEVE SINCE HE FELT HE COULD GET SOME TAIL ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL.

    Lovitar, you are the hypocrite here. Your leftwing bias is obvious. Stop giving us a bad name. Jesus. It's like you WANT to hand the republicans authority on moral issues.

    Edwards' conduct is unforgivable, and you, by defending it and by being a shrieking violet, are defending it. Go on, keep defending the indefensible. You will only serve to embarrass yourself and those you claim to defend.
  • It's kind of sad and amusing at the same time to watch as left-leaning blogs try to sweep the Edward's affair under the rug with arguments such as "It's not that big of a deal" or "It's not nearly as bad as what such-and-such Republican did." Oddly enough, that wasn't the tune they were singing back when they were trashing Republicans like Foley back in 2006 with the tired old "Culture of Corruption" slogan.

    Sure, what Edwards did wasn't nearly as bad or as newsworthy as some of the things that the Bush administration has done over the last 7 1/2 years. But it's hard to overlook the hypocrisy of those on the left who had one set of standards for Republicans in 2006 and a completely different set of standards for Edwards now. If such people don't think the Edwards affair is such a big deal now, then they shouldn't have been so quick to pounce on people like Foley back in 2006.

    Live by the sword; die by the sword.

    One would hope that Republicans will take the high road and not politicize the Edward's affair by casting aspersions on the entire Democratic Party. But should they attempt to capitalize on the Edwards affair, could you really blame them?
  • kritt11
    The media goes after this type of story like a dog with a bone. Edwards is perfectly aware of this, and that he could have ruined his party's presidential chances if he had obtained the nomination. His egocentrism is breathtaking. He would have been another Bill Clinton- costing the Democrats the election.

    The problem with politicians like him is that they begin to believe their own hype, and cannot handle the attention and adoration that a presidential campaign entails.
  • kritt11
    BTW, I do not believe that the baby is not Edwards'. He is probably lying about this as well- and has had a wealthy supporter pay off the mother so that she won't seek a paternity test. Disgusting---that he would do this to his family and his party.
  • Loviatar
    Wow,
    Not only do we have the normal right wing problem with comparison (putting minor Democratic fault on par with major Republican crimes), we also seem to have a problem with reading comprehension.

    Li3Bolt,

    Show me anywhere within my comment where I said Edward's conduct was forgivable, it isn't; what he did is not front page, days on end newsworthy. It is a minor peccadillo by an ex-senator, used to be candidate for president, someone who while scandal worthy is not newsworthy.

    People again, my point is that Edwards crime in this case is between him, his wife and the other women. Of what interest other than as a minor scandal is it of mine, yours or any other person? Your cries for access, vengeance and retribution shows up either as your biases (right wing) or your need to peep into every aspect of your leaders lives. In either case, thats not where our society needs to be.
  • shaun
    Lovitar:

    And you're so concerned about others missing your point that you miss mine.

    I could care less about the cost of Edwards' haircuts, his taste in music or frequency of bowel movements. But yo'du better believe I care as a journallist and voter when he wags his finger at others for their moral lapses while not only lapsing himself, but probably using campaign money to bankroll the mother of his maybe love child.
  • Loviatar
    nicrivera / Shaun and the comparison challenged readers,


    nicrivera,

    When Democrats coined the phrase "Culture of Corruption" they were talking about Republicans like Duke Cunningham, Bob Ney, Tom DeLay, Scooter Libby, Bill Frist and now Sen. Stevens, you know people who had actually committed crimes under the laws of the United States.

    Tell me when did adultery become a crime under the laws of the United States?


    Shaun,

    You're saving special scorn for the NY Times for investigating Sen. McCain while ignoring ex-Sen Edwards, huh, HUHHH

    Well I have a few questions for you before you bust a gut with you scornning.

    1. Who is a sitting Senator? McCain or Edwards

    2. Who is their parties candidate for president? McCain or Edwards

    3. Who involvement was with a lobbiest with legislation before their committee? McCain or Edwards

    4. Who has past experience in adultery and wife abandonment? McCain or Edwards

    5. Whose party has made its bones on morality over the past 30 years? McCain or Edwards

    and you call yourself a newspaper man, I know who I'm saving my scorn for.


    For all the comparative challenged,

    Two examples of what is personal and should not remain private and what is personal and should remain private.

    McCain's top Foreign Policy strategist quite recently (2 months ago) was the top lobbiest for the country of Georgia who had accepted over $800,000 from them over the past 3 years for various lobbying activities. This ex-lobbiest wrote and disseminated John McCain's recent bellicose statement against Russia in his comment about the recent Russian / Georgian war. While his actions as a lobbiest was during his personal career, because they may have an impact and an influence on US policy it should not remain private, it should be reviewed and discussed in that context.

    John Edwards committed adultery. He committed adultery in his personal life. His committing adultery did not and will not impact or influence US policy. It should be noted and discussed, however it should remain a private issue between him, his wife and the other woman.

    The comparisons being made here between Edward's situation and the various Republican scandals over the past 7+ years would be laughable if it wasn't so sad. If you can't see and differentiate between a politician/administration committing a crime against our countries laws and an ex-politician having an affair, then this country is well on its way to our version of the fall of Rome.
  • Loviatar
    Shaun,

    Please point out where Edwards had previously wagged his finger at others for their moral lapses.

    Also, please point out where its reported that Edwards used campaign money to bankroll the mother of his maybe love child.

    Please do so, if you can't please retract you slander.
  • Half_Past_Midnight
    Please point out where Edwards had previously wagged his finger at others for their moral lapses.


    Comparison challenged? You didn't even read the comments, did you? Read the quote in Marlowecan's comment above and google the source:

    “I think this President has shown a remarkable disrespect for his office, for the moral dimensions of leadership, for his friends, for his wife, for his precious daughter. It is breathtaking to me the level to which that disrespect has risen."

    http://m.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/aug/09...

    Dallas lawyer Fred Baron paid for Edwards' mistress to relocate

    http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/...
  • viktor
    I knew Edwards was a sleaze ball from the get-go! His two Americas' banter and his arrogant, self-aggrandizing and cocky, good ol' southern boy charmer tactics have parlayed him right where he belongs. He always displayed such an air of elitism, while claiming he was the candidate for the "common" man. Re: $400 hair cuts, for example.
    Now people see him for the superficial and lying politician he proved to be!
    "I saw it coming."
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