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		<title>By: DLS</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/21642/why-john-edwards-political-career-is-now-burnt-toast/comment-page-1/#comment-128871</link>
		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 22:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>M: the MSM (liberal, despite the defensive lies) didn&#039;t just trumpet GOP scandals, but has exaggerated and has manufactured them when convenient, too.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Look lib-Demmies -- Edwards has Toxified himself.  It tarnishes the Dems, as similar things have before.  Deal with it.  Honestly and practically, if not yet effectively, either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>M: the MSM (liberal, despite the defensive lies) didn&#39;t just trumpet GOP scandals, but has exaggerated and has manufactured them when convenient, too.</p>
<p>Look lib-Demmies &#8212; Edwards has Toxified himself.  It tarnishes the Dems, as similar things have before.  Deal with it.  Honestly and practically, if not yet effectively, either.</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/21642/why-john-edwards-political-career-is-now-burnt-toast/comment-page-1/#comment-128869</link>
		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 17:32:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Elrod -- re. McCain.  Yes, this is as the start of the thread said about Edwards (and an effort by many to suppress this effect on Obama and the Democrats in this year&#039;s election).  McCain is &quot;tarnished&quot; in this ways (and in others that can be also exploited by the media and the rest of the Dems this year, such as long established relations to lobbyists and ties to industry and other kinds of tarnish that are associated with being established in a Washington that is too large and far too powerful).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Don&#039;t be surprised if the media chooses as its next step a rehash of Republican affairs and other related misconduct such as that of Newt Gingrich &quot;to put things into proper perspective.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elrod &#8212; re. McCain.  Yes, this is as the start of the thread said about Edwards (and an effort by many to suppress this effect on Obama and the Democrats in this year&#39;s election).  McCain is &#8220;tarnished&#8221; in this ways (and in others that can be also exploited by the media and the rest of the Dems this year, such as long established relations to lobbyists and ties to industry and other kinds of tarnish that are associated with being established in a Washington that is too large and far too powerful).</p>
<p>Don&#39;t be surprised if the media chooses as its next step a rehash of Republican affairs and other related misconduct such as that of Newt Gingrich &#8220;to put things into proper perspective.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/21642/why-john-edwards-political-career-is-now-burnt-toast/comment-page-1/#comment-128865</link>
		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 17:28:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;&#039;Well, everyone knows about it now. So there is no need to report on it, is there?&#039;&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Evade, delay, suppress anything that would harm Obama and the Dems this year.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That is what would be admitted if the media were more honest themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#39;Well, everyone knows about it now. So there is no need to report on it, is there?&#39;&#8221;</p>
<p>Evade, delay, suppress anything that would harm Obama and the Dems this year.</p>
<p>That is what would be admitted if the media were more honest themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/21642/why-john-edwards-political-career-is-now-burnt-toast/comment-page-1/#comment-128864</link>
		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 17:27:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dare Obama to give Edwards a cabinet position, send him (or Bill Clinton) to the UN (well, it befits the real nature of that organization and the respect it actually has among the astute) or an ambassadorship somewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dare Obama to give Edwards a cabinet position, send him (or Bill Clinton) to the UN (well, it befits the real nature of that organization and the respect it actually has among the astute) or an ambassadorship somewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/21642/why-john-edwards-political-career-is-now-burnt-toast/comment-page-1/#comment-128860</link>
		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 17:26:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot; his political star seems to have only recently taken damage because of his conduct during his wife&#039;s primary&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That is, _more_ damage.  He was already disgraced for good as of the sordid pardons as his Presidential postscript.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; his political star seems to have only recently taken damage because of his conduct during his wife&#39;s primary&#8221;</p>
<p>That is, _more_ damage.  He was already disgraced for good as of the sordid pardons as his Presidential postscript.</p>
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		<title>By: ChrisWWW</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChrisWWW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 16:27:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I gotta disagree with Joe about #2 &lt;br&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;He didn’t learn the damage-control lesson of former President Bill Clinton or former Colorado Senator Gary Hart which means he wasn’t/isn’t as smart as some/he thought he was. If you deny press reports about a scandal and just keep hoping it’ll go away, it often doesn’t. And the repeated denials are covered so much that if proof later comes out that you lied it is one big, fat legitimate story.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;m pretty sure Billy denied the Lewinsky thing on TV, perjured himself in court and so on. And yet, his political star seems to have only recently taken damage because of his conduct during his wife&#039;s primary. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Maybe all is forgiven when you&#039;re a winner?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I gotta disagree with Joe about #2 <br />
<blockquote>He didn’t learn the damage-control lesson of former President Bill Clinton or former Colorado Senator Gary Hart which means he wasn’t/isn’t as smart as some/he thought he was. If you deny press reports about a scandal and just keep hoping it’ll go away, it often doesn’t. And the repeated denials are covered so much that if proof later comes out that you lied it is one big, fat legitimate story.</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#39;m pretty sure Billy denied the Lewinsky thing on TV, perjured himself in court and so on. And yet, his political star seems to have only recently taken damage because of his conduct during his wife&#39;s primary. </p>
<p>Maybe all is forgiven when you&#39;re a winner?</p>
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		<title>By: elrod</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 07:04:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I could care less about Edwards. The one good thing about this whole affair - no pun intended - is that it sucks up all the oxygen from the political chattering class while Obama is on vacation. So the media won&#039;t be replaying every bogus McCain ad in continuous loop.  Hell, the media might even notice that John McCain cheated on his ailing wife too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I could care less about Edwards. The one good thing about this whole affair &#8211; no pun intended &#8211; is that it sucks up all the oxygen from the political chattering class while Obama is on vacation. So the media won&#39;t be replaying every bogus McCain ad in continuous loop.  Hell, the media might even notice that John McCain cheated on his ailing wife too.</p>
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		<title>By: KYJurisDoctor</title>
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		<dc:creator>KYJurisDoctor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 06:37:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ANOTHER LYING PIECE OF TURD POLITICIAN! &lt;a href=&quot;http://OsiSpeaks.com&quot;&gt;OsiSpeaks.com&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ANOTHER LYING PIECE OF TURD POLITICIAN! <a href="http://OsiSpeaks.com">OsiSpeaks.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: JillyDybka</title>
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		<dc:creator>JillyDybka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 01:55:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I weep at the loss of integrity nowadays.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I weep at the loss of integrity nowadays.</p>
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		<title>By: Why John Edwards Political Career Is Now Burnt Toast</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 01:32:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Marlowecan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marlowecan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 00:44:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe said:  &quot;Edwards is insisting the child pictured in the tabloid report is not his. However, this is already raising eyebrows in the &quot;new media,&quot; and the tabloids and mainstream media are most likely trying to find out for themselves right now whether that is an inaccurate claim as well.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It will be interesting whether the &quot;mainstream media&quot; looks into this question.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Consider, for example, the New York Times&#039; coverage of this story.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/08/08/abc-news-edwards-admits-to-extramarital-affair/index.html?hp&quot;&gt;http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/08/08/a...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;The Grey Lady&#039;s sources:  Extra, The Charlotte Observer, and the Enquirer.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Talk about getting scooped.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I loved this quote in particular:&lt;br&gt;&quot;In recent weeks, Mr. Edwards had been asked at several public appearances – including in Washington, D.C., and elsewhere for comment about being seen at the Beverly Hilton in Los Angeles while Ms. Hunter was staying there – an incident that the National Enquirer reported last month. At one point, Mr. Edwards called the account “tabloid trash.” And in Washington recently, he declined to answer any questions.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Of course, neither the New York Times, nor any of its bloggers, reported this story &quot;in recent weeks&quot;. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I expect the MSM will find another excuse to avoid this story, and looking further into Edwards&#039; web of lies.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Maybe:  &quot;Well, everyone knows about it now.  So there is no need to report on it, is there?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe said:  &#8220;Edwards is insisting the child pictured in the tabloid report is not his. However, this is already raising eyebrows in the &#8220;new media,&#8221; and the tabloids and mainstream media are most likely trying to find out for themselves right now whether that is an inaccurate claim as well.&#8221;</p>
<p>It will be interesting whether the &#8220;mainstream media&#8221; looks into this question.</p>
<p>Consider, for example, the New York Times&#39; coverage of this story.  <br /><a href="http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/08/08/abc-news-edwards-admits-to-extramarital-affair/index.html?hp">http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/08/08/a&#8230;</a><br />The Grey Lady&#39;s sources:  Extra, The Charlotte Observer, and the Enquirer.</p>
<p>Talk about getting scooped.</p>
<p>I loved this quote in particular:<br />&#8220;In recent weeks, Mr. Edwards had been asked at several public appearances – including in Washington, D.C., and elsewhere for comment about being seen at the Beverly Hilton in Los Angeles while Ms. Hunter was staying there – an incident that the National Enquirer reported last month. At one point, Mr. Edwards called the account “tabloid trash.” And in Washington recently, he declined to answer any questions.&#8221;</p>
<p>Of course, neither the New York Times, nor any of its bloggers, reported this story &#8220;in recent weeks&#8221;. </p>
<p>I expect the MSM will find another excuse to avoid this story, and looking further into Edwards&#39; web of lies.  </p>
<p>Maybe:  &#8220;Well, everyone knows about it now.  So there is no need to report on it, is there?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Marlowecan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marlowecan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 00:15:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To add to Joe&#039;s excellent breakdown, another major reason Edwards is toast:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The MSM took major damage from conservatives on this file for weeks -- the Kausfiles were a one-man front in this campaign -- denouncing the MSM&#039;s obvious bias in their sheltering Edwards for so long (vs trumpeting GOP scandals).  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Polls consistently show Americans believe the MSM tends to support the Democrats.  It will be all that much harder now for the media to hold on to its fig leaf of political neutrality.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Edwards will pay for the MSM&#039;s embarrassment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To add to Joe&#39;s excellent breakdown, another major reason Edwards is toast:</p>
<p>The MSM took major damage from conservatives on this file for weeks &#8212; the Kausfiles were a one-man front in this campaign &#8212; denouncing the MSM&#39;s obvious bias in their sheltering Edwards for so long (vs trumpeting GOP scandals).  </p>
<p>Polls consistently show Americans believe the MSM tends to support the Democrats.  It will be all that much harder now for the media to hold on to its fig leaf of political neutrality.</p>
<p>Edwards will pay for the MSM&#39;s embarrassment.</p>
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