Comments on: Kick off the Olympics with a new war! http://themoderatevoice.com/21627/kick-off-the-olympics-with-a-new-war/ An Internet hub with domestic and international news, analysis, original reporting, and popular features from the left, center, indies, centrists, moderates, and right Wed, 15 Feb 2012 10:08:52 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: Neocon http://themoderatevoice.com/21627/kick-off-the-olympics-with-a-new-war/comment-page-1/#comment-127786 Neocon Sat, 09 Aug 2008 03:02:59 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/places/asia/georgia/21627/kick-off-the-olympics-with-a-new-war/#comment-127786 Yep. The price of oil is falling rather drastically and if the Russians can interceede they will. Although the BTC only pumps around 700k bbls per day Im not sure if the shut down of this pipeline will cause the price to rise or not in the current declining world demand due to economic slow down.<br><br>This is another classic example of why the USA needs to drill and have at its disposal its own oil. Even if it does not allow for total independence it will allow for security given a world rapidly going mad. Yep. The price of oil is falling rather drastically and if the Russians can interceede they will. Although the BTC only pumps around 700k bbls per day Im not sure if the shut down of this pipeline will cause the price to rise or not in the current declining world demand due to economic slow down.

This is another classic example of why the USA needs to drill and have at its disposal its own oil. Even if it does not allow for total independence it will allow for security given a world rapidly going mad.

]]> By: map of georgia country http://themoderatevoice.com/21627/kick-off-the-olympics-with-a-new-war/comment-page-1/#comment-113699 map of georgia country Fri, 08 Aug 2008 22:13:13 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/places/asia/georgia/21627/kick-off-the-olympics-with-a-new-war/#comment-113699 [...] [...] [...] [...]

]]> By: daveinboca http://themoderatevoice.com/21627/kick-off-the-olympics-with-a-new-war/comment-page-1/#comment-127785 daveinboca Fri, 08 Aug 2008 18:42:28 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/places/asia/georgia/21627/kick-off-the-olympics-with-a-new-war/#comment-127785 Neocon, you are right on the money. The Russians want to control the pipeline from Baku to Ceyhan which passes through Georgia for about a third of its distance. I was working for Amoco when the pipeline agreement was signed in the mid-nineties & even then the Russians were dead set against the export of Caspian oil to the West without going through Russian territory. [I visited Baku & other parts of the Caucasus a dozen times back then & almost died of food poisoning.] Even the otherwise unworldly Bill Clinton was 100% behind the Amoco Pipeline [soon to be the BP pipeline] & as Amoco's Strategic Entry guy, I got frequent & instant access to NSC officials husbanding the project inside the USG.<br><br>The US planned & helped build this pipeline---it keeps the price of oil far below what it would be if the Russians controlled it. The Russians are still the largest crude exporter in the world [or tied with Saudi Arabia] and want the price as high as possible.<br><br>Watch for the pipeline to be disrupted or bombed by Russian planes to jack up the price of oil again---you saw it here first.<br><br>And with high oil prices, dissatisfied Americans are more likely to vote in a feckless Obama---the Russians consider this callow youth a Jimmy Carter Redux. The USSR invaded Afghanistan because they knew Jimmy was a toothless tiger cub---he was so busy giving away the Panama Canal & grinning while Iran took US hostages, the USSR thought he was as stupid as he looked.<br><br>Obama would just be another EU-nuch.<br><br>Putin is behind this & is the "strategerist" striking while the world's media is preoccupied in Beijing----he knows the US MSM doesn't want to cover a war in the faraway Caucasus while the lazy newsies are basking in Beijing smog & a US presidential race, plus he knows the MSM wants to minimize the foreign policy implications as that would make McCain look like the man for the job. Neocon, you are right on the money. The Russians want to control the pipeline from Baku to Ceyhan which passes through Georgia for about a third of its distance. I was working for Amoco when the pipeline agreement was signed in the mid-nineties & even then the Russians were dead set against the export of Caspian oil to the West without going through Russian territory. [I visited Baku & other parts of the Caucasus a dozen times back then & almost died of food poisoning.] Even the otherwise unworldly Bill Clinton was 100% behind the Amoco Pipeline [soon to be the BP pipeline] & as Amoco's Strategic Entry guy, I got frequent & instant access to NSC officials husbanding the project inside the USG.

The US planned & helped build this pipeline—it keeps the price of oil far below what it would be if the Russians controlled it. The Russians are still the largest crude exporter in the world [or tied with Saudi Arabia] and want the price as high as possible.

Watch for the pipeline to be disrupted or bombed by Russian planes to jack up the price of oil again—you saw it here first.

And with high oil prices, dissatisfied Americans are more likely to vote in a feckless Obama—the Russians consider this callow youth a Jimmy Carter Redux. The USSR invaded Afghanistan because they knew Jimmy was a toothless tiger cub—he was so busy giving away the Panama Canal & grinning while Iran took US hostages, the USSR thought he was as stupid as he looked.

Obama would just be another EU-nuch.

Putin is behind this & is the “strategerist” striking while the world's media is preoccupied in Beijing—-he knows the US MSM doesn't want to cover a war in the faraway Caucasus while the lazy newsies are basking in Beijing smog & a US presidential race, plus he knows the MSM wants to minimize the foreign policy implications as that would make McCain look like the man for the job.

]]> By: daveinboca http://themoderatevoice.com/21627/kick-off-the-olympics-with-a-new-war/comment-page-1/#comment-127783 daveinboca Fri, 08 Aug 2008 18:38:58 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/places/asia/georgia/21627/kick-off-the-olympics-with-a-new-war/#comment-127783 Neocon, you are right on the money. The Russians want to control the pipeline from Baku to Ceyhan which passes through Georgia for about a third of its distance. I was working for Amoco when the pipeline agreement was signed in the mid-nineties & even then the Russians were dead set against the export of Caspian oil to the West without going through Russian territory. [I visited Baku & other parts of the Caucasus a dozen times back then & almost died of food poisoning.<br><br>The US planned & helped build this pipeline---it keeps the price of oil far below what it would be if the Russians controlled it. The Russians are still the largest crude exporter in the world [or tied with Saudi Arabia] and want the price as high as possible.<br><br>Watch for the pipeline to be disrupted or bombed by Russian planes to jack up the price of oil again---you saw it here first.<br><br>And with high oil prices, dissatisfied Americans are more likely to vote in a feckless Obama---the Russians consider this callow youth a Jimmy Carter Redux. The USSR invaded Afghanistan because they knew Jimmy was a toothless tiger cub---he was so busy giving away the Panama Canal & grinning while Iran took US hostages, the USSR thought he was as stupid as he looked.<br><br>Obama would just be another EU-nuch. Neocon, you are right on the money. The Russians want to control the pipeline from Baku to Ceyhan which passes through Georgia for about a third of its distance. I was working for Amoco when the pipeline agreement was signed in the mid-nineties & even then the Russians were dead set against the export of Caspian oil to the West without going through Russian territory. [I visited Baku & other parts of the Caucasus a dozen times back then & almost died of food poisoning.

The US planned & helped build this pipeline---it keeps the price of oil far below what it would be if the Russians controlled it. The Russians are still the largest crude exporter in the world [or tied with Saudi Arabia] and want the price as high as possible.

Watch for the pipeline to be disrupted or bombed by Russian planes to jack up the price of oil again—you saw it here first.

And with high oil prices, dissatisfied Americans are more likely to vote in a feckless Obama—the Russians consider this callow youth a Jimmy Carter Redux. The USSR invaded Afghanistan because they knew Jimmy was a toothless tiger cub—he was so busy giving away the Panama Canal & grinning while Iran took US hostages, the USSR thought he was as stupid as he looked.

Obama would just be another EU-nuch.

]]> By: Silhouette http://themoderatevoice.com/21627/kick-off-the-olympics-with-a-new-war/comment-page-1/#comment-127780 Silhouette Fri, 08 Aug 2008 17:37:23 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/places/asia/georgia/21627/kick-off-the-olympics-with-a-new-war/#comment-127780 "What better way to note the opening day of the Olympics than with a new war."<br><br>******<br><br>I know! It almost seems choreographed..<br><br>Now who would stand to gain by pulling a stunt like this? It's a question with a very broad-spectrum answer...<br><br>(Hint: think "strange bedfellows" "oil" and "politics"... ) “What better way to note the opening day of the Olympics than with a new war.”

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I know! It almost seems choreographed..

Now who would stand to gain by pulling a stunt like this? It's a question with a very broad-spectrum answer…

(Hint: think “strange bedfellows” “oil” and “politics”… )

]]> By: Russia Invades Georgia, Left Forgot Their “Stop War With Georgia” Banners » Pirate’s Cove — Give No Quarter! http://themoderatevoice.com/21627/kick-off-the-olympics-with-a-new-war/comment-page-1/#comment-113690 Russia Invades Georgia, Left Forgot Their “Stop War With Georgia” Banners » Pirate’s Cove — Give No Quarter! Fri, 08 Aug 2008 17:01:00 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/places/asia/georgia/21627/kick-off-the-olympics-with-a-new-war/#comment-113690 [...] of the few liberals commenting on the subject, The Moderate Voice, asks if we have a dog in this hunt. One of TMV’s commenters is already trying to link it to [...] [...] of the few liberals commenting on the subject, The Moderate Voice, asks if we have a dog in this hunt. One of TMV’s commenters is already trying to link it to [...]

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]]> By: georgia country http://themoderatevoice.com/21627/kick-off-the-olympics-with-a-new-war/comment-page-1/#comment-113685 georgia country Fri, 08 Aug 2008 14:04:10 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/places/asia/georgia/21627/kick-off-the-olympics-with-a-new-war/#comment-113685 [...] [...] [...] [...]

]]> By: Neocon http://themoderatevoice.com/21627/kick-off-the-olympics-with-a-new-war/comment-page-1/#comment-127779 Neocon Fri, 08 Aug 2008 14:02:25 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/places/asia/georgia/21627/kick-off-the-olympics-with-a-new-war/#comment-127779 Absolutely without a doubt the USA has a dog in this fight.<br><br>Running for more than 1,600 kilometers through Azerbaijan, Georgia and Turkey, BTC is one of the most strategically important pieces of energy infrastructure in the world. Strongly backed by the U.S., it was designed to be the first major pipeline to bring Caspian oil to Western markets without going through Russia, and thereby to ease Moscow's tight grip on oil exports from the region.<br><br>I rather suspect that the Russians in their muscle flexing would love to get their hands on this pipeline. Do not forget that Russian officials have indicated more then once that they predict that Russia will stop exporting oil in 2010.<br><br>The world is at peril from oil. The USA needs to get off her duff and find new oil while we can make the transition to alternatives for our own security. Absolutely without a doubt the USA has a dog in this fight.

Running for more than 1,600 kilometers through Azerbaijan, Georgia and Turkey, BTC is one of the most strategically important pieces of energy infrastructure in the world. Strongly backed by the U.S., it was designed to be the first major pipeline to bring Caspian oil to Western markets without going through Russia, and thereby to ease Moscow's tight grip on oil exports from the region.

I rather suspect that the Russians in their muscle flexing would love to get their hands on this pipeline. Do not forget that Russian officials have indicated more then once that they predict that Russia will stop exporting oil in 2010.

The world is at peril from oil. The USA needs to get off her duff and find new oil while we can make the transition to alternatives for our own security.

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