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Time To Say Goodbye To Hitler and Ho

As we move further in to a political campaign it was only a matter of time before the ad makers went back to the same slime infested well they use every two years. Attack ads are of course part of any political campaign and on some level they probably do serve a purpose in bringing an issue before the voters.

But these ads inevitably go too far and we start to see the comparisons to Hitler, Stalin, Ho Chi Minh and so on creep to the surface. The most recent example of this has cropped up in a Democratic primary in the 9th District of Tennessee. This district is 60% African-American and is represented by Steve Cohen, a white Democrat.

While Mr. Cohen was serving on a city commission in Memphis there was a proposal relating to a park named for Civil War General Nathan Bedford Forrest. Because Forrest later helped to found the KKK, some felt that the park should not be named for him while others felt that this was only one part of a long life and therefore the park should retain the name while a display should acknowledge his wrongs. Cohen sided with the latter group and opposed the proposal.

Cohen is being opposed in the Democratic primary by an African-American, Nikki Tinker, and she has aired an ad linking Cohen with the KKK.  Given that Mr. Cohen is Jewish, it would seem to be a bit extreme to try and link him to a group like the Klan.

But of course, this is only one example of this kind of campaigning. Every year we see Democratic candidates airing ads which link their GOP opponent to the Klan or Adolf Hitler or simply to ‘Fascism’. By same token we see Republicans producing commercials that declare their opponent to be a member of the Communist International or tying them in with terrorists, etc.

I hate to break it to these people, but there is no truth to any of these ads. I don’t care how conservative a candidate is, nobody in American politics is anywhere close to Hitler or the Klan or any member of a true Fascist movement. I have not been a fan of many of the policies of the Bush Administration or the rightward lurch of the GOP but they are nowhere close to those criminals of the past.

By the same token there are no members of the Democratic party who are on par with the evils carried out by people like Ho Chi Minh, Stalin or Mao. I am no fan of the Obama campaign and think they may be quite naive on many issues but they are not in league with the terrorists. The do not support Bin Laden and they will not turn over our nation to the bad guys.

More importantly, to use these names in political campaigns we insult the memories of those who actually suffered under the evils of these leaders. Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Ho Chi Minh, Pol Pot, Franco and the Klan together killed hundreds of millions of people. They are not sound-bites to be used over and over in political campaigns.

You can make your point if you want to, you can raise issues about your opponent, you can suggest that his proposals are bad or dangerous or foolish. You can do all these things without raising the insult of using the names of these true criminals of history.

It is time for us to say goodbye to all of these evil men and toss them on the ash heap of history.

  • Don Quijote
    I hate to break it to these people but there is no truth to any of these ads. I don’t care how conservative a candidate is, nobody in American politics is anywhere close to Hilter or the Klan or any member of a true Fascist movement. I have not been a fan of many of the policies of the Bush Administration or the rightward lurch of the GOP but they are nowhere close to those criminals of the past.


    How many hundreds of thousands did Reagan Kill in Central America?

    How many hundreds of thousands has Bush killed? How many millions has he made homeless? How many hundreds of thousands has he wounded and crippled for life?

    The modern GOP is a fascist movement.
  • Marlowecan
    Don Quijote said: "How many hundreds of thousands did Reagan Kill in Central America? How many hundreds of thousands has Bush killed? . . . The modern GOP is a fascist movement."

    Hahahaha...Patrick's post has a "case in point" there.

    I tell ya . . . when Ronald Reagan stole Green Lantern's Power Ring and went on his personal mission of death to Central America, the US went to hell.
    He killed hundreds of thousands . . . personally . . . with that ring.
    Where were Superman, Wonder Woman and the rest of the Justice League of America? I tell ya. . . .

    Then Bushitler inherited that ring, and went amok himself. More hundreds of thousands of dead . . . killed personally by Bush . . . the blood on his hands.
    (The story that most of those dead were killed by AQ and Sunni insurgents blowing up markets and mosques, terrifying the population into fleeing the country and decapitating people for videos on the Internet. . . . is a VICIOUS LIE. . . concocted by the fascist GOP to coverup Bush's genocidal reign of terror).

    However, there is hope. As you all know, Batman has successfully disposed of the Joker in "The Dark Knight".

    Now the Dark Knight is free to end Bush's Reign of Error by taking back the Green Lantern power ring.

    In 2009 there will be a new Nuremberg Trial, presided over by the Dark Knight, to prosecute the GOP and all of its members for its crimes against humanity.

    (Oops, forgot that the War Crimes Trials are not to be mentioned until after the election . . . where is that "Edit" button, dammit?).
  • Don Quijote
    I tell ya . . . when Ronald Reagan stole Green Lantern's Power Ring and went on his personal mission of death to Central America, the US went to hell.


    Hey, jackass, Reagan only funded ( by selling weapons to Iran and using the profits of said sales, Iran/Contra ring a bell?) and trained the Contras who then turned around and killed hundreds of thousands of Nicaraguans.

    In El Salvador 80,000 people were killed by right-wing death squads funded & trained by Uncle Sam. Amazingly enough the US Ambassador at the time, Otto Reich, never noticed the stack of bodies pilling through the country-side.

    The amount of shit that disappears down the Memory Hole is amazing.


    Then Bushitler inherited that ring, and went amok himself. More hundreds of thousands of dead . . . killed personally by Bush . . . the blood on his hands.

    How many people did Hitler kill with his own personal hands, does not stop the World from holding him responsible for millions of death, and it will not stop the World from holding Bush responsible for the hundreds of thousands who died in Iraq.

    In 2009 there will be a new Nuremberg Trial, presided over by the Dark Knight, to prosecute the GOP and all of its members for its crimes against humanity.


    Fat chance, another war will disappear down the Memory Hole and twenty years from now some other jackass will be commenting on blogs that we could have won the war if those Democrats had not stopped us from Nuking Baghdad, Fallujah and a few other hotbeds of resistance.

    Sooner or later we will nuke some city someplace in the world in some other pointless war because they have something we want ( If we keep electing Republicans it will be sooner rather than later).

    "Indeed,
    I tremble for my country
    when I reflect that God is just."

    Thomas Jefferson
  • GeorgeSorwell
    Some links to supporting evidence would have improved this post exponentially.
  • How many people did Hitler kill with his own personal hands, does not stop the World from holding him responsible for millions of death, and it will not stop the World from holding Bush responsible for the hundreds of thousands who died in Iraq.


    Marlowe,
    You have to admit he got you there...
  • RememberNovember
    Indeed, many of these genocidal types only get their hands dirty with the ink they sign off on for these killings.

    when you "fund" these groups- you're not giving them arms to march around on parade grounds with ,and yet often they miss out on the permutations in the long run (Selling WMD's to Saddam in the 80s vs. Iran,Al Qaeda, Ortega, Noriega coming back to bite the hand that feeds for example) . Neocon PNAC naivete, or intentional permanent destabilization?
  • cfpete
    Shouldn’t we can start with the posthumous war crimes trial of LBJ.
  • cfpete,
    I'm thinking Genghis Khan.
  • Don Quijote
    Some links to supporting evidence would have improved this post exponentially.

    A) I had limited time available in that I had to go to work.
    B) There is no shortage of books on the subject matter.
    Our Own Backyard: The United States In Central America, 1977-1992 (Paperback)
    The Last Colonial Massacre: Latin America in the Cold War (Paperback)
    The Massacre at El Mozote (Paperback)
    Washington's War on Nicaragua (Paperback)
    C) There is no shortage of websites on the subject matter.
    Nicaragua v. United States
    The Republic of Nicaragua v. The United States of America[1] was a case heard in 1986 by the International Court of Justice which ruled in favor of Nicaragua and against the United States. As part of its judgment, the World Court awarded reparations to Nicaragua. The World Court found that the United States had violated international law by supporting Contra guerrillas in their war against the Nicaraguan government and by mining Nicaragua's harbors. The Court ruled in Nicaragua's favor after the United States lost the argument that the ICJ lacked jurisdiction to hear the case, and refused to participate. It later blocked enforcement making attempts at obtaining compliance futile.

    The court found in its legal verdict that the US was "in breach of its obligations under customary international law not to use force against another State," "not to intervene in its affairs," "not to violate its sovereignty," "not to interrupt peaceful maritime commerce," and "in breach of its obligations under Article XIX of the Treaty of Friendship, Commerce and Navigation between the Parties signed at Managua on 21 January 1956."

    The court had 16 final decisions which it voted upon. In Statement 9, the court stated that the US encouraged human rights violations by the Contras by the manual entitled Operaciones sicologicas en guerra de guerrillas. However, this did not make such acts attributable to the U

    A Contra Rampage--With Blessings from the United States
    THE IRAN-CONTRA AFFAIR

    But I don't expect any Republicans to read them in that facts are to them what garlic is to vampires.

    Shouldn’t we can start with the posthumous war crimes trial of LBJ.


    Right after that of Harry S Truman for all the atrocities commited in Korea by Americans & Their allies.


    Why stop with Genghis Khan? I nominate Ceasar.

    “They (the Romans) make a desert, and they call it peace”
    Publius Cornelius Tacitus
  • pacatrue
    As someone from Louisiana, I do have to recall David Duke who almost became Governor (R) of the state after having actually been a Wizard in the Klan.

    Regardless, the ad Patrick originally mentioned sounds horrible.
  • Ok folks I've got a few minutes free so I will try to respond.

    Pacatrue: It is true that Duke ran for office a few times in Louisiana and it's also true that the GOP leadership repudiated him every time. I am sure we can find some real fascists or socialists or pro terrorist people in the US but not in mainstream politics.

    GeorgeSOrwell: I wasn't sure if your comment was directed at me or not, but I did provide a link to the story I referenced and assumed that I didn't need to prove that there are nasty ads out there every 2 yrs.

    Don: Well you are the most interesting to respond too. I'm assuming from your comments on Bush and Reagan that you are pretty far to the left and so I can understand why you would see them as far right but that does not equate to fascism.

    In a Fascist society you get sent to prison for saying things critical of the government while in our society you can say what you feel like.

    So despite your feelings for the GOP, they are no more fascist that you are Marxist or pro terrorist.
  • GeorgeSorwell
    I did provide a link to the story I referenced and assumed that I didn't need to prove that there are nasty ads out there every 2 yrs.


    Sure, there are nasty ads out there at every election. But is it really normal for there to be ads invoking Hitler?

    Seriously: Would it kill you to support your arguments with evidence?
  • Don Quijote
    In a Fascist society you get sent to prison for saying things critical of the government while in our society you can say what you feel like.


    Really???

    Keeping dissent invisible - How the Secret Service and the White House keep protesters safely out of Bush's sight -- and off TV.

    Oct. 16, 2003 | PHILADELPHIA -- When Bill Neel learned that President George W. Bush was making a Labor Day campaign visit to Pittsburgh last year to support local congressional candidates, the retired Pittsburgh steelworker decided that he would be on hand to protest the president's economic policies. Neel and his sister made a hand-lettered sign reading "The Bushes must love the poor -- they've made so many of us," and headed for a road where the motorcade would pass on the way from the airport to a Carpenters' Union training center.

    He never got to display his sign for President Bush to see, though. As he stood among milling groups of Bush supporters, he was approached by a local police detective, who told him and his sister that because they were protesting, they had to move to a "free speech area," on orders of the U.S. Secret Service.

    "He pointed out a relatively remote baseball diamond that was enclosed in a chain-link fence," Neel recalled in an interview with Salon. "I could see these people behind the fence, with their faces up against it, and their hands on the wire." (The ACLU posted photos of the demonstrators and supporters at that event on its Web site.) "It looked more like a concentration camp than a free speech area to me, so I said, 'I'm not going in there. I thought the whole country was a free speech area.'" The detective asked Neel, 66, to go to the area six or eight times, and when he politely refused, he handcuffed and arrested the retired steelworker on a charge of disorderly conduct. When Neel's sister argued against his arrest, she was cuffed and hauled off as well. The two spent the president's visit in a firehouse that was serving as Secret Service and police headquarters for the event.



    The constitutionality of police-imposed 'free-speech zones'

    Protesters at the DNC were confined to a fenced-in area -- a wire enclosure topped by razor wire outside Boston's FleetCenter, where the Convention was held. They charged that their First Amendment rights were violated by this confinement.

    So much for free speech! Apparently you can say anything you damn well please as long as no one can hear you say it.

    14 Points of Fascism
    1. Powerful and continuing expressions of nationalism
    2. Disdain for the importance of human rights
    3. Identification of enemies/scapegoats as a unifying cause
    4. The supremacy of the military/avid militarism
    5. Rampant sexism
    6. A controlled mass media
    7. Obsession with national security
    8. Religion and ruling elite tied together
    9. Power of corporations protected
    10. Power of labor suppressed or eliminated
    11. Disdain and suppression of intellectuals and the arts
    12. Obsession with crime and punishment
    13. Rampant cronyism and corruption
    14. Fraudulent elections


    A damn near perfect description of the current Republican party, If it waddles like a duck and it quacks like a duck, it's probably a duck.
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