Comments on: The Mojave experiment: is Windows Vista as bad as we think it is?

By: RememberNovember

RememberNovember — Wed, 06 Aug 2008 13:32:35 +0000

I think most of the problems with Windows Vista stem from the upgrade process rather than a clean install. What happens is you get new coded slapped on top of old code that may not sync with the new.
There were a lot of issues when it came out- a radio jock documented his own troubles upgrading ( took him like 8 hours to get everything working) to Vista- in the end he downgraded. It is not a mythical issue. M$ is just playing gotcha PR with perceptions, that's all.

By: Neocon

Neocon — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 23:42:40 +0000

It's true: Microsoft has confirmed that it's abandoning Windows as we know it. Cagey as ever, the Microsofties won't say when it'll happen, but they have talked a little bit about what the next OS is going to look like–or not look like.

Incidently word on the street is that Windows 7 is going to be much like Windows Millenium……just another way to get cash while they make the transition to the new windows cloud computing.

By: vista campaign

vista campaign — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 21:28:16 +0000

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By: Dyre42

Dyre42 — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 20:01:54 +0000

As someone that does technical support for a living I can honestly say I'd rather troubleshoot a machine running Windows 95, ME, or NT than a machine running Vista.

By: christoofar

christoofar — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 19:40:32 +0000

Too many driver issues ( maybe not their fault, but it is the OS that they want you to use & enjoy)
Too much security crap you have to turn off just to open a file, etc.
Too much DRM crap. Period.
For what I use a PC for, it offers no improvement over XP that I can find worth all the hassle.
Costs too much. Linux is not a viable option. XP works just fine.

By: Rambie

Rambie — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 19:38:21 +0000

Just like XP, Vista didn't get usable until SP1 and should be good by SP2. Every version of Windows has needed more resources and vista isn't new in that regard.

I use Vista and I'm not a fan, I wouldn't say I HATE it but dislike it.

I use Ubuntu on my older laptop and it runs so much better than even XP did on the same hardware.

By: superdestroyer

superdestroyer — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 17:19:57 +0000

Ii would not trust Microsoft to make an operating system that is machine independent. One of the early complaints about Vista is that it used too much power when installed on a notebook computer. Once again, it was probably due to each group in development wanting to do things while the notebook was on without thought to energy consumption.

By: RyanS

RyanS — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 17:13:51 +0000

Windows Vista is the last windows OS. Microsoft has announced they are giving up on windows for good with Vista.
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Ahem.. Windows 7

By: Marlowecan

Marlowecan — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 17:09:12 +0000

Earlier this year, as part of a lawsuit, reams of internal MS e-mails were released. Among them were hilarious complaints - by people such as Microsoft's CEO Ballmer - that he couldn't install Vista on his home computer.

See: "Microsoft execs saw problems with early Vista"
with links to the e-mails themselves
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/352993_m...

Hahahahaha....

Yes, Vista's first Service Pack helped immensely, but early adopters decreed the code was half-baked when RTMed. And they were right.

(Yes, there are obvious analogues here to politics - and defining images of candidates "Obama the Celebrity" "McCain the Cranky Old Man" for "early adopters" before the public really looks at them in September.)

Granted the driver problems weren't Microsoft's responsibility. But innumerable other issues were:
(1) the long delay when copying files, the resources issue.
(2) UAC going off continually.
(3) Indexing thrashing the hard drive non-stop for Windows Search.

Plus, Microsoft is still spending more time on bloody marketing than on fixing issues with the OS.

Consider that almost all the updates - except for those big reliability updates last year - are security updates. Not improving the usability of the OS.

Vista still, even when sp1, regularly forgets the locations and sizes of common windows. The reason: it looks to the place in the Registry where XP stored the value for the number of windows to remember. Thing is. . . this location has shifted in the Vista registry.

One part of the Vista development team didn't tell the other part what they were doing.

This issue is widely known . . . and can be corrected with a simple script . . . thus making Vista user happiness a little bit better.

But Microsoft has never released an update for this. They just don't care about annoyances - and User Friendliness - with the OS, even when they can be easily fixed. Instead, they launch this absurd marketing project.

By: Najlepsze Programy, Recenzje, Informacje. » Blog Archive » The Mojave experiment: is Windows Vista as bad as we think it is?

Tue, 05 Aug 2008 17:01:11 +0000

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By: Neocon

Neocon — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 16:49:51 +0000

I installed windows vista on top of my xp the minute it was available. It was a pain. It crashed. In the first 6 months I had to reinstall vista 3 times. It would download its own updates and crash trying to install them. I would download the same update, fail and then constantly annoy you about updates that needed installing.

In short the first 6 months I had vista on this machine it was extremely annoying. About 6 months ago I reinstalled vista for the last time and installed sp1. Since then its been practically flawless and is very quick and is a good system.

Like anything else in the computer world when you have millions of lines of code its gonna take awhile to work out the bugs.

Windows Vista is the last windows OS. Microsoft has announced they are giving up on windows for good with Vista.

By: The Mojave experiment: is Windows Vista as bad as we think it is?

The Mojave experiment: is Windows Vista as bad as we think it is? — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 16:37:39 +0000