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		<title>By: Bookmarks about Turkmenistan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bookmarks about Turkmenistan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 02:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] - bookmarked by 5 members originally found by jnrbrns on 2008-11-21  Citius, Altius, Fortius, Xenophobius  http://themoderatevoice.com/media/newspapers/21539/citius-altius-fortius-xenophobius/ - bookmarked [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8211; bookmarked by 5 members originally found by jnrbrns on 2008-11-21  Citius, Altius, Fortius, Xenophobius  <a href="http://themoderatevoice.com/media/newspapers/21539/citius-altius-fortius-xenophobius/" rel="nofollow">http://themoderatevoice.com/media/newspapers/21539/citius-altius-fortius-xenophobius/</a> &#8211; bookmarked [...]</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 16:35:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since Obama is going to get the White House, not Hillary Clinton --&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport can now be changed to &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The_ Barack_Obama_ Global Transportation Center</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since Obama is going to get the White House, not Hillary Clinton &#8211;</p>
<p>Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport can now be changed to </p>
<p>The_ Barack_Obama_ Global Transportation Center</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 16:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frankly, I&#039;m surprised the Chinese haven&#039;t attacked Taiwan during this distraction.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As for the Olympics themselves, I wrote off so much in sports long ago because of the commercialism (which preceded the commercialized names of pro sports stadia nowadays), and of course the Olympics has the same commercialist annoyance that corresponds to what some would want to with -- no, not Barack Obama yet, but -- Ronald Reagan&#039;s name, prepending it to something in every county in the USA.  &quot;Official Olympic,&quot; &quot;Ronald Reagan,&quot; &quot;Nokia,&quot; &quot;Qualcomm,&quot; all tawdry and tacky.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frankly, I&#39;m surprised the Chinese haven&#39;t attacked Taiwan during this distraction.</p>
<p>As for the Olympics themselves, I wrote off so much in sports long ago because of the commercialism (which preceded the commercialized names of pro sports stadia nowadays), and of course the Olympics has the same commercialist annoyance that corresponds to what some would want to with &#8212; no, not Barack Obama yet, but &#8212; Ronald Reagan&#39;s name, prepending it to something in every county in the USA.  &#8220;Official Olympic,&#8221; &#8220;Ronald Reagan,&#8221; &#8220;Nokia,&#8221; &#8220;Qualcomm,&#8221; all tawdry and tacky.</p>
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		<title>By: nahummer</title>
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		<dc:creator>nahummer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 14:53:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good article. I won&#039;t be watching the Olympics for many of the reasons you pointed out. As for the transformation of Chinese society, this event will definitely prove to be a huge stepping stone towards &quot;advancement&quot;. I&#039;ve written a long, meandering piece about the Beijing games &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.theendisalwaysnear.blogspot.com&quot;&gt;www.theendisalwaysnear.blogspot.com&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good article. I won&#39;t be watching the Olympics for many of the reasons you pointed out. As for the transformation of Chinese society, this event will definitely prove to be a huge stepping stone towards &#8220;advancement&#8221;. I&#39;ve written a long, meandering piece about the Beijing games <a href="http://www.theendisalwaysnear.blogspot.com">http://www.theendisalwaysnear.blogspot.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: kimbatch</title>
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		<dc:creator>kimbatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 10:02:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don’t support a boycott and I want the Beijing Olympics to be a success. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But the Games are a chance, while the world is watching, to press China for change. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Without change China will carry on executing more of its citizens than any other country in the world, it will continue censoring the media and the Internet and it will continue locking up and torturing those who try to stand up for their rights and the rights of others. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It isn’t political. To stand up for human rights is to stand up for the values enshrined in the Olympic Charter. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.uncensor.com.au&quot;&gt;http://www.uncensor.com.au&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don’t support a boycott and I want the Beijing Olympics to be a success. </p>
<p>But the Games are a chance, while the world is watching, to press China for change. </p>
<p>Without change China will carry on executing more of its citizens than any other country in the world, it will continue censoring the media and the Internet and it will continue locking up and torturing those who try to stand up for their rights and the rights of others. </p>
<p>It isn’t political. To stand up for human rights is to stand up for the values enshrined in the Olympic Charter. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.uncensor.com.au">http://www.uncensor.com.au</a></p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 18:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was a nice photo on top of Obama&#039;s speech, Shaun.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Just kidding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was a nice photo on top of Obama&#39;s speech, Shaun.</p>
<p>Just kidding.</p>
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		<title>By: shaun</title>
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		<dc:creator>shaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 14:40:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let the record show that I substantially agree with Superdestroyer and Marlowecan and that has nothing to do with the envelopes filled with bribe money that they sent me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let the record show that I substantially agree with Superdestroyer and Marlowecan and that has nothing to do with the envelopes filled with bribe money that they sent me.</p>
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		<title>By: Marlowecan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marlowecan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 14:32:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shaun said:  &quot;the presence of that great human rights champion, George W. Bush, the first U.S. president to ever attend an Olympics outside the USA.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Shaun makes a very interesting point here.  Some folks here might be surprised at the close ties between the GOP and the Beijing leadership.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;A personal story:  The morning after the 2004 election was particularly surreal for me . . . as one of my clients - an aide to one of China&#039;s princelings - called me in near hysterics that Kerry had not conceded.  He was terrified that Kerry &amp; the Democrats would win, and protectionist trade barriers would go up.  So I spent that sunny November morning with him in a Starbucks calming his nerves . . . reassuring him of a Bush victory and the status quo.  A very surreal morning, to be sure.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You can be sure that China is hoping for a McCain victory this fall. &lt;br&gt;The ruling class hate/fear/despise the Democrats, as they have always had the best relations with a GOP run America.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Odd bit of trivia:  The ruling elite keeps NO money in Chinese banks, as they don&#039;t trust the Chinese banking system (too easy for rivals to access).  Most of their money was kept in HK banks . . . a British-run HK obeying the rule of law was very useful to them. Since &#039;97 it is moved further offshore.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Stories of China as a rival US superpower are vastly overblown.  The Chinese elite has no interest in playing rival games with the US, and is generally content to accept US global hegemony.  They need the US badly.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I would point out how China suppressed any internal criticism of Bush&#039;s invasion of Iraq.  They hardly made a peep of protest.  They like and admire Bush, after all.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It will be fascinating to see how much of the reality of modern China enters media coverage hahahahahahaha....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shaun said:  &#8220;the presence of that great human rights champion, George W. Bush, the first U.S. president to ever attend an Olympics outside the USA.&#8221;</p>
<p>Shaun makes a very interesting point here.  Some folks here might be surprised at the close ties between the GOP and the Beijing leadership.</p>
<p>A personal story:  The morning after the 2004 election was particularly surreal for me . . . as one of my clients &#8211; an aide to one of China&#39;s princelings &#8211; called me in near hysterics that Kerry had not conceded.  He was terrified that Kerry &#038; the Democrats would win, and protectionist trade barriers would go up.  So I spent that sunny November morning with him in a Starbucks calming his nerves . . . reassuring him of a Bush victory and the status quo.  A very surreal morning, to be sure.</p>
<p>You can be sure that China is hoping for a McCain victory this fall. <br />The ruling class hate/fear/despise the Democrats, as they have always had the best relations with a GOP run America.</p>
<p>Odd bit of trivia:  The ruling elite keeps NO money in Chinese banks, as they don&#39;t trust the Chinese banking system (too easy for rivals to access).  Most of their money was kept in HK banks . . . a British-run HK obeying the rule of law was very useful to them. Since &#39;97 it is moved further offshore.</p>
<p>Stories of China as a rival US superpower are vastly overblown.  The Chinese elite has no interest in playing rival games with the US, and is generally content to accept US global hegemony.  They need the US badly.</p>
<p>I would point out how China suppressed any internal criticism of Bush&#39;s invasion of Iraq.  They hardly made a peep of protest.  They like and admire Bush, after all.</p>
<p>It will be fascinating to see how much of the reality of modern China enters media coverage hahahahahahaha&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: superdestroyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>superdestroyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 13:21:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will do my four year rant about the Olympics. What changed the Olympics the most is the 1984 Olympics in Los Angeles where the organizers managed to not lose money because they extracted such a high price for television rights.  When NBC started paying such a huge price for the Olympics, the entire basis of the games changed. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;First, the Olympics are not for sports fans.  With the networks paying so much money, they need to attract casual viewers. This means having brand name professional play and for emphasizing sports that casual not sports fan women like.  Why do you think the networks show so much gymnastics and why they do so many up close and personal segments.  It is to attract women.  I stopped watching when the networks made it seem that every athletes has overcome adversity in order to make the games.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The nationalistic aspects also manage to attract the casual fans.  How even thought about Olympic basketball until the USSR beat the USA in 1972?  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And last, the synergy aspects driven by consultants is horrible.  Every media outlet has sent people to China.  They are churning out China stories to justify the expense of going.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will do my four year rant about the Olympics. What changed the Olympics the most is the 1984 Olympics in Los Angeles where the organizers managed to not lose money because they extracted such a high price for television rights.  When NBC started paying such a huge price for the Olympics, the entire basis of the games changed. </p>
<p>First, the Olympics are not for sports fans.  With the networks paying so much money, they need to attract casual viewers. This means having brand name professional play and for emphasizing sports that casual not sports fan women like.  Why do you think the networks show so much gymnastics and why they do so many up close and personal segments.  It is to attract women.  I stopped watching when the networks made it seem that every athletes has overcome adversity in order to make the games.  </p>
<p>The nationalistic aspects also manage to attract the casual fans.  How even thought about Olympic basketball until the USSR beat the USA in 1972?  </p>
<p>And last, the synergy aspects driven by consultants is horrible.  Every media outlet has sent people to China.  They are churning out China stories to justify the expense of going.</p>
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