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		<title>By: elrod</title>
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		<dc:creator>elrod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 20:31:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe,&lt;br&gt;Now that Patty has reveled her ugly self to the Moderate Voice, it&#039;s probably time she be shown the door.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe,<br />Now that Patty has reveled her ugly self to the Moderate Voice, it&#39;s probably time she be shown the door.</p>
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		<title>By: pattyd44</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 09:29:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>why dont you grow a brain and figure out what  playing the race card means, it means your sorry ass is trying to get sympathy...   the big woe is me..  woe is me im black, im being  picked on...  you oughta know you ALL  use it..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why dont you grow a brain and figure out what  playing the race card means, it means your sorry ass is trying to get sympathy&#8230;   the big woe is me..  woe is me im black, im being  picked on&#8230;  you oughta know you ALL  use it..</p>
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		<title>By: pattyd44</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 09:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>amazing,  yet Obama has used racist remarks from the start,  with his typical white, to  bitter small town, now he gets caught with his latest race card game and your going to pooo hooooo..  53% said he used the race card.. hes the next jesse jackson in the making,  hes D-O-N-E but dont take it from me, wait for Nov..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>amazing,  yet Obama has used racist remarks from the start,  with his typical white, to  bitter small town, now he gets caught with his latest race card game and your going to pooo hooooo..  53% said he used the race card.. hes the next jesse jackson in the making,  hes D-O-N-E but dont take it from me, wait for Nov..</p>
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		<title>By: pattyd44</title>
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		<dc:creator>pattyd44</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 09:23:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>whats Obama&#039;s excuse for confusing iran and iraq while questioning the general? or  saying hes going to meet with canada&#039;s president? or not knowing the difference between labor day and memorial day? or his most recent moronic statement of  presidents are presidents for 8 to 10 years?  Is the 6 years of cocaine abuse taken its toll? why is he refusing to release his medical records?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>whats Obama&#39;s excuse for confusing iran and iraq while questioning the general? or  saying hes going to meet with canada&#39;s president? or not knowing the difference between labor day and memorial day? or his most recent moronic statement of  presidents are presidents for 8 to 10 years?  Is the 6 years of cocaine abuse taken its toll? why is he refusing to release his medical records?</p>
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		<title>By: pattyd44</title>
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		<dc:creator>pattyd44</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 09:19:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GWB was TEXAS governor for 5 years, what the hell has Obama done besides a community organizer aka glorified boy scout leader.. let me guess your high on cocaine?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GWB was TEXAS governor for 5 years, what the hell has Obama done besides a community organizer aka glorified boy scout leader.. let me guess your high on cocaine?</p>
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		<title>By: pattyd44</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 09:03:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama is the biggest joke since George Mcgovern.. when are you loonie liberals going to comprehend, you are not going to win? Gore? Kerry? Lets not forget John Edwards a straight shooting LOSERS!&lt;br&gt;Is there anything left that Obama hasnt flipped out? He hasnt gained support hes losing support in his own dem party.. Hes a compulsive liar, hence : fisa.. He lied during the entire primaries, nothing he  claimed were issues are issues anymore, he has flipped on abortions, gay marraiges, campaign financing, nafta, cafta, fisa, gun control... Im sure I left out plenty more... &lt;br&gt;He is as racist as the day is long , so are all his bozo cult members,  they threaten, they try to intimidate,  they are scum suckers! everytime Obama opens his mouth, he stuffs his foot in it.. and then has to &quot;explain&quot; away his raicst remarks, his assisine stupidity, hence: inflate your tires....he has severe charactor issues.. he has severe mental issues, why dont you bozos start by reading his book, how he called jews kikes and whitieys are evil.. &lt;br&gt;amazing ,  obama gets Iran and Iraq confused while questioning the general.. he thinks canada has a president, he confused labor day and memorial day.. he thinks he will be president 8 to 10 years, the list is endless of his stupidity, yet Mccain is old... whats Obamas excuse, cocaine abuse rot his brain?&lt;br&gt;Since when isnt a mans charactor based on the people that surround him? Obama sits in a racist church for 20 years, married in the racist church, baptized his children in a racist church, donated a million dollars to a racist church but claims he never heard the racist words?  so , is he saying  while in congress he doesnt hear a word either? hes a moron ! and only a moron would fall for his lies!&lt;br&gt;He refuses to release his medical records, why?? what is he hiding? his cocaine abuse? he alleges to be a lawyer yet puts up a phony birth certificate with no state seal and no certificate number.. and calls that legal?  hes a moron! this idiot has more skeletons than arlington cemetary and I for one, can not wait til the GOP slam him and hard!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama is the biggest joke since George Mcgovern.. when are you loonie liberals going to comprehend, you are not going to win? Gore? Kerry? Lets not forget John Edwards a straight shooting LOSERS!<br />Is there anything left that Obama hasnt flipped out? He hasnt gained support hes losing support in his own dem party.. Hes a compulsive liar, hence : fisa.. He lied during the entire primaries, nothing he  claimed were issues are issues anymore, he has flipped on abortions, gay marraiges, campaign financing, nafta, cafta, fisa, gun control&#8230; Im sure I left out plenty more&#8230; <br />He is as racist as the day is long , so are all his bozo cult members,  they threaten, they try to intimidate,  they are scum suckers! everytime Obama opens his mouth, he stuffs his foot in it.. and then has to &#8220;explain&#8221; away his raicst remarks, his assisine stupidity, hence: inflate your tires&#8230;.he has severe charactor issues.. he has severe mental issues, why dont you bozos start by reading his book, how he called jews kikes and whitieys are evil.. <br />amazing ,  obama gets Iran and Iraq confused while questioning the general.. he thinks canada has a president, he confused labor day and memorial day.. he thinks he will be president 8 to 10 years, the list is endless of his stupidity, yet Mccain is old&#8230; whats Obamas excuse, cocaine abuse rot his brain?<br />Since when isnt a mans charactor based on the people that surround him? Obama sits in a racist church for 20 years, married in the racist church, baptized his children in a racist church, donated a million dollars to a racist church but claims he never heard the racist words?  so , is he saying  while in congress he doesnt hear a word either? hes a moron ! and only a moron would fall for his lies!<br />He refuses to release his medical records, why?? what is he hiding? his cocaine abuse? he alleges to be a lawyer yet puts up a phony birth certificate with no state seal and no certificate number.. and calls that legal?  hes a moron! this idiot has more skeletons than arlington cemetary and I for one, can not wait til the GOP slam him and hard!</p>
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		<title>By: rasmussen poll</title>
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		<title>By: JSpencer</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 14:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only poll I&#039;ll take to heart will be the one conducted November 4th.</description>
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		<title>By: daveinboca</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 05:14:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;That Rasmussen poll is very dubious. &quot;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This is hilarious.  The other day, one of the masthead crew called another poll supporting McCain an &quot;outlier.&quot;  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It seems that the Dems love polls except when they aren&#039;t supportive of Dems, then they are &quot;dubious&quot; and an &quot;outlier.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Polls are very slippery gauges of public attitudes &amp; opinion, largely depending on wording of the queries, the ratio of one party to another [a recent poll favoring Obama turned out in the &quot;fine print&quot; to be over 55% Dems &amp; less than 40% Repubs, but the headlines about the poll said nothing of this anomaly],  and  the mysterious &quot;Wilder&quot; or &quot;Bradley&quot; effect, to mention only three variables.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Obama has been slipping up again &amp; again with racial innuendo and the &quot;Moses&quot; ad consisted largely of snippets of Obama&#039;s own public appearances.  So maybe Obama should be blamed for celestial satires on his bloated self-esteem verging on arrogance [or maybe past arrogance into overweening pride/egomania].&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I heard John Kerry whining today on Tom Brokaw&#039;s MTP how mean the Repubs were to him---having Vietnam vets pointing out his 3.5 months in-country with 3 mysterious Purple Heart wounds [he still hasn&#039;t released his records as promised].  I don&#039;t think Obama should use Kerry as a surrogate.  Character issues.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;McCain has more character than Obama, GWB, Gore, Clinton, or GHWB.  He simply can&#039;t stick to script and wanders off topic like my old Dutch uncle used to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;That Rasmussen poll is very dubious. &#8220;</i></p>
<p>This is hilarious.  The other day, one of the masthead crew called another poll supporting McCain an &#8220;outlier.&#8221;  </p>
<p>It seems that the Dems love polls except when they aren&#39;t supportive of Dems, then they are &#8220;dubious&#8221; and an &#8220;outlier.&#8221;</p>
<p>Polls are very slippery gauges of public attitudes &#038; opinion, largely depending on wording of the queries, the ratio of one party to another [a recent poll favoring Obama turned out in the "fine print" to be over 55% Dems &#038; less than 40% Repubs, but the headlines about the poll said nothing of this anomaly],  and  the mysterious &#8220;Wilder&#8221; or &#8220;Bradley&#8221; effect, to mention only three variables.</p>
<p>Obama has been slipping up again &#038; again with racial innuendo and the &#8220;Moses&#8221; ad consisted largely of snippets of Obama&#39;s own public appearances.  So maybe Obama should be blamed for celestial satires on his bloated self-esteem verging on arrogance [or maybe past arrogance into overweening pride/egomania].</p>
<p>I heard John Kerry whining today on Tom Brokaw&#39;s MTP how mean the Repubs were to him&#8212;having Vietnam vets pointing out his 3.5 months in-country with 3 mysterious Purple Heart wounds [he still hasn&#39;t released his records as promised].  I don&#39;t think Obama should use Kerry as a surrogate.  Character issues.</p>
<p>McCain has more character than Obama, GWB, Gore, Clinton, or GHWB.  He simply can&#39;t stick to script and wanders off topic like my old Dutch uncle used to do.</p>
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		<title>By: elrod</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 04:44:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kryon,&lt;br&gt;I agree that character matters. But these character attacks against Obama have done nothing to reveal anything about Obama&#039;s character. However, they have said a LOT about John McCain&#039;s character.  He has no honor. He is dishonest. He is a self-centered brat. He&#039;s a hypocrite. That&#039;s what we&#039;ve learned about John McCain&#039;s character.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Barack Obama went abroad and looked and behaved like a real President. Maybe you think it was just a show, but it certainly didn&#039;t look like he was over his head. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Like a jealous 13-year old girl, John McCain has responded by mocking Obama as a celebrity - even though he called himself a celebrity on his own website before scrubbing it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yes, Barack Obama has much less experience than John McCain. But we haven&#039;t seen any evidence that John McCain&#039;s experience has led to wisdom and good judgment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kryon,<br />I agree that character matters. But these character attacks against Obama have done nothing to reveal anything about Obama&#39;s character. However, they have said a LOT about John McCain&#39;s character.  He has no honor. He is dishonest. He is a self-centered brat. He&#39;s a hypocrite. That&#39;s what we&#39;ve learned about John McCain&#39;s character.</p>
<p>Barack Obama went abroad and looked and behaved like a real President. Maybe you think it was just a show, but it certainly didn&#39;t look like he was over his head. </p>
<p>Like a jealous 13-year old girl, John McCain has responded by mocking Obama as a celebrity &#8211; even though he called himself a celebrity on his own website before scrubbing it.</p>
<p>Yes, Barack Obama has much less experience than John McCain. But we haven&#39;t seen any evidence that John McCain&#39;s experience has led to wisdom and good judgment.</p>
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		<title>By: JSpencer</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 02:59:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kryon77: &quot;That&#039;s why ultimately all we have to go by are a candidate&#039;s general character, past experience, accomplishments, and judgment, as demonstrated by past decisions, hopefully under some amount of stress.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Well, that makes for a nice line, but if it&#039;s true, then how on earth did GWB ever get elected? He certainly never came close to filling any of that criteria. Forgive me if I suggest they are merely pretty words that take a back seat to partisan loyalties.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kryon77: &#8220;That&#39;s why ultimately all we have to go by are a candidate&#39;s general character, past experience, accomplishments, and judgment, as demonstrated by past decisions, hopefully under some amount of stress.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, that makes for a nice line, but if it&#39;s true, then how on earth did GWB ever get elected? He certainly never came close to filling any of that criteria. Forgive me if I suggest they are merely pretty words that take a back seat to partisan loyalties.</p>
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		<title>By: Marlowecan</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 02:57:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It looks like the Obama-Celebrity meme will get reinforcement come September.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The New York Post &quot;Page Six&quot; is reporting that celebrity Tyra Banks will be, bizarrely enough, posing as Michelle Obama for the cover of Harper&#039;s in September.   &lt;br&gt;First &quot;Time&quot; and &quot;Newsweek&quot;, the &quot;New Yorker&quot;, then &quot;People&quot;, now Michelle is being impersonated by a celebrity on &quot;Harper&#039;s&quot;.  If the Obamas get the covers of &quot;Vanity Fair&quot; and &quot;Vogue&quot; this fall, it is all over for them.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And some folks (mostly liberal pundits) dismissed the power of the &quot;Celeb&quot; ad, and declare the MSM has a pro-McCain agenda (by giving Obama the cover of every major MSM publication in the US...a very devious GOP plot that  ;)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;From &quot;Page Six&quot;:&lt;br&gt;&quot;TYRA Banks - the mastermind of gimmicks - is at it again. Banks - who once had her breasts examined on TV to show everybody they were &quot;real&quot; - is now dressing up as Michelle Obama for the September cover of Harper&#039;s Bazaar. &quot;It&#039;s a full makeover,&quot; said one spy. &quot;You know how Tyra likes to do that stuff. And she&#039;ll get a lot of press off it.&quot; A rep for Banks didn&#039;t return calls.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It looks like the Obama-Celebrity meme will get reinforcement come September.</p>
<p>The New York Post &#8220;Page Six&#8221; is reporting that celebrity Tyra Banks will be, bizarrely enough, posing as Michelle Obama for the cover of Harper&#39;s in September.   <br />First &#8220;Time&#8221; and &#8220;Newsweek&#8221;, the &#8220;New Yorker&#8221;, then &#8220;People&#8221;, now Michelle is being impersonated by a celebrity on &#8220;Harper&#39;s&#8221;.  If the Obamas get the covers of &#8220;Vanity Fair&#8221; and &#8220;Vogue&#8221; this fall, it is all over for them.</p>
<p>And some folks (mostly liberal pundits) dismissed the power of the &#8220;Celeb&#8221; ad, and declare the MSM has a pro-McCain agenda (by giving Obama the cover of every major MSM publication in the US&#8230;a very devious GOP plot that  <img src='http://themoderatevoice.com/wordpress-engine/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>From &#8220;Page Six&#8221;:<br />&#8220;TYRA Banks &#8211; the mastermind of gimmicks &#8211; is at it again. Banks &#8211; who once had her breasts examined on TV to show everybody they were &#8220;real&#8221; &#8211; is now dressing up as Michelle Obama for the September cover of Harper&#39;s Bazaar. &#8220;It&#39;s a full makeover,&#8221; said one spy. &#8220;You know how Tyra likes to do that stuff. And she&#39;ll get a lot of press off it.&#8221; A rep for Banks didn&#39;t return calls.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: kryon77</title>
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		<dc:creator>kryon77</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 02:40:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll make what Rambie and Elrod might take to be a concession: Republicans typically  run &quot;smear campaigns&quot; against Democratic opponents, or at least they have in the last several Presidential elections (against Dukakis, Clinton, Gore and Kerry.)  But what you call &quot;smear,&quot; I call &quot;an attack on the opponent&#039;s character.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But where we likely differ is on the moral propriety of this strategy.  Being a good or bad unitary leader of the United States Executive branch  - arguably the most powerful person the world - does not essentially turn on one&#039;s stand on the issues.  Any smart high-school debater can tick off a series of positions on health-care, immigration, Iraq, etc. that would have the support of most Americans, but we don&#039;t elect him president (and not just because he&#039;s under 35.)  Being the president involves unforeseen difficulties and unforeseen domestic and international crises, which cannot be litigated in the course of a campaign.  That&#039;s why ultimately all we have to go by are a candidate&#039;s general character, past experience, accomplishments, and judgment, as demonstrated by past decisions, hopefully under some amount of stress.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So Republicans say that Obama has so far accomplished little, and has demonstrated little strength of character, and yet - while he may not have clinical Narcissistic Personality Disorder - does a pretty good imitation of it.  Obama has his own character attack on McCain, which usually takes the form of focusing on his his allegedly poor judgment in supporting the war in Iraq.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The voters will have to make up their own minds as to the characters of Obama v. McCain.  And so far, the voters have wisely seen through Obama&#039;s attempt to escape this vetting process, by claiming, in effect, that any attack on his character is essentially racial in nature.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;ll make what Rambie and Elrod might take to be a concession: Republicans typically  run &#8220;smear campaigns&#8221; against Democratic opponents, or at least they have in the last several Presidential elections (against Dukakis, Clinton, Gore and Kerry.)  But what you call &#8220;smear,&#8221; I call &#8220;an attack on the opponent&#39;s character.&#8221;</p>
<p>But where we likely differ is on the moral propriety of this strategy.  Being a good or bad unitary leader of the United States Executive branch  &#8211; arguably the most powerful person the world &#8211; does not essentially turn on one&#39;s stand on the issues.  Any smart high-school debater can tick off a series of positions on health-care, immigration, Iraq, etc. that would have the support of most Americans, but we don&#39;t elect him president (and not just because he&#39;s under 35.)  Being the president involves unforeseen difficulties and unforeseen domestic and international crises, which cannot be litigated in the course of a campaign.  That&#39;s why ultimately all we have to go by are a candidate&#39;s general character, past experience, accomplishments, and judgment, as demonstrated by past decisions, hopefully under some amount of stress.</p>
<p>So Republicans say that Obama has so far accomplished little, and has demonstrated little strength of character, and yet &#8211; while he may not have clinical Narcissistic Personality Disorder &#8211; does a pretty good imitation of it.  Obama has his own character attack on McCain, which usually takes the form of focusing on his his allegedly poor judgment in supporting the war in Iraq.</p>
<p>The voters will have to make up their own minds as to the characters of Obama v. McCain.  And so far, the voters have wisely seen through Obama&#39;s attempt to escape this vetting process, by claiming, in effect, that any attack on his character is essentially racial in nature.</p>
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		<title>By: JSpencer</title>
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		<dc:creator>JSpencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 02:17:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s becoming clear to me that white voters are going to be holding Obama to a higher standard than they do McCain. Part of the reason for this will be due to the medias greater interest in creating an exciting race-based narrative than it&#039;s interest in straightforward, honest reporting. The other reason has to do with our countries history of giving greater leeway to white males than it does women or minorities. This isn&#039;t about any so-called race card, it&#039;s about the attitudes that still exist in our society despite all the high-minded, and sometimes disingenuous attempts to ignore them. One thing I can say with almost complete certainty, nothing that happens between now and November will surprise me. I might find it disturbing, or disappointing, but it won&#039;t surprise me. Not a very pleasant thing to have to admit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#39;s becoming clear to me that white voters are going to be holding Obama to a higher standard than they do McCain. Part of the reason for this will be due to the medias greater interest in creating an exciting race-based narrative than it&#39;s interest in straightforward, honest reporting. The other reason has to do with our countries history of giving greater leeway to white males than it does women or minorities. This isn&#39;t about any so-called race card, it&#39;s about the attitudes that still exist in our society despite all the high-minded, and sometimes disingenuous attempts to ignore them. One thing I can say with almost complete certainty, nothing that happens between now and November will surprise me. I might find it disturbing, or disappointing, but it won&#39;t surprise me. Not a very pleasant thing to have to admit.</p>
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		<title>By: elrod</title>
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		<dc:creator>elrod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 02:09:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kryon,&lt;br&gt;The &quot;they&quot; in his comments mean not just McCain himself but all the GOP surrogates. My own state GOP (TN) ran a blatantly racist ad supposedly &quot;showing Obama in his native Muslim garb.&quot;  Come to the South and you&#039;ll see all sorts of racist crap local and state Republicans are throwing at Obama. And the racism is not just black/white. It&#039;s &quot;foreignness,&quot; which adds to the picture of an &quot;exotic&quot; and &quot;dangerous&quot; man.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The problem for McCain is that his ad team is not very subtle about what they do. They haven&#039;t gone over any racial lines, in my opinion, but they have made a mockery of their claim to be above negative campaigning. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;John McCain has no honor.  He is a liar and a buffoon. He puts himself above his country. He will do anything to gain power.  He is NOT a &quot;different&quot; kind of Republican. If you want a standard-issue Bush-style Republican, go ahead and vote for McCain. But if you think he is somehow above the usual GOP pol, you are naive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kryon,<br />The &#8220;they&#8221; in his comments mean not just McCain himself but all the GOP surrogates. My own state GOP (TN) ran a blatantly racist ad supposedly &#8220;showing Obama in his native Muslim garb.&#8221;  Come to the South and you&#39;ll see all sorts of racist crap local and state Republicans are throwing at Obama. And the racism is not just black/white. It&#39;s &#8220;foreignness,&#8221; which adds to the picture of an &#8220;exotic&#8221; and &#8220;dangerous&#8221; man.</p>
<p>The problem for McCain is that his ad team is not very subtle about what they do. They haven&#39;t gone over any racial lines, in my opinion, but they have made a mockery of their claim to be above negative campaigning. </p>
<p>John McCain has no honor.  He is a liar and a buffoon. He puts himself above his country. He will do anything to gain power.  He is NOT a &#8220;different&#8221; kind of Republican. If you want a standard-issue Bush-style Republican, go ahead and vote for McCain. But if you think he is somehow above the usual GOP pol, you are naive.</p>
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		<title>By: elrod</title>
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		<dc:creator>elrod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 02:04:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That Rasmussen poll is very dubious. 44% of African Americans believe that Obama&#039;s statement was &quot;racist?&quot; Umm, I highly doubt that. In fact, the McCain campaign calls it &quot;playing the race card,&quot; or &quot;race-baiting,&quot; which is very different from being &quot;racist.&quot;  A racist statement actually denigrates someone because of their race. Playing the race care is falsely accusing somebody else of being racist. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Tha 44% of African Americans said &quot;yes&quot; to this question means that they interpreted it MUCH differently than the Rasmussen is reporting it.  My guess is that many of them meant, &quot;Obama was responding to real racism&quot; in his dollar bill reference; remember more than half of blacks believe the Paris Hilton ad was racist.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So this datapoint is pretty much useless Rasmussen should be called to task for asking such a sloppy question.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That Rasmussen poll is very dubious. 44% of African Americans believe that Obama&#39;s statement was &#8220;racist?&#8221; Umm, I highly doubt that. In fact, the McCain campaign calls it &#8220;playing the race card,&#8221; or &#8220;race-baiting,&#8221; which is very different from being &#8220;racist.&#8221;  A racist statement actually denigrates someone because of their race. Playing the race care is falsely accusing somebody else of being racist. </p>
<p>Tha 44% of African Americans said &#8220;yes&#8221; to this question means that they interpreted it MUCH differently than the Rasmussen is reporting it.  My guess is that many of them meant, &#8220;Obama was responding to real racism&#8221; in his dollar bill reference; remember more than half of blacks believe the Paris Hilton ad was racist.</p>
<p>So this datapoint is pretty much useless Rasmussen should be called to task for asking such a sloppy question.</p>
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		<title>By: Rambie</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 01:59:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds to me Kryon77 that Obama was just correctly predicting the future... he new the Republicans were going to run a smear campaign.   They&#039;ve done it since the 2000 election what made you think they weren&#039;t?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds to me Kryon77 that Obama was just correctly predicting the future&#8230; he new the Republicans were going to run a smear campaign.   They&#39;ve done it since the 2000 election what made you think they weren&#39;t?</p>
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		<title>By: kryon77</title>
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		<dc:creator>kryon77</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 01:31:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Contra Mr. Gandelman&#039;s post, voters are not giving  McCain any more leeway than Obama.  Obama has explicitly played the race card on several occasions, and McCain has not done so once, and voters have eyes and ears and can perceive the truth.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Is there a non-racial interpretation of this Obama statement, from a Florida fundraiser in June?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;It is going to be very difficult for Republicans to run on their stewardship of the economy or their outstanding foreign policy.  We know what kind of campaign they’re going to run.  They’re going to try to make you afraid. They’re going to try to make you afraid of me. ‘He’s young and inexperienced and he’s got a funny name. And did I mention he’s black?’&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/06/21/obama-theyre-going-to-try-to-make-you-afraid-of-me/&quot;&gt;http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/06/21...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As Lindsey Graham said on Fox News Sunday this morning, referencing the above passage: &quot;Who the hell is &#039;they&#039;&quot;?  Well, in the preceding sentences, Obama referenced &quot;the Republicans,&quot; and &quot;the campaign&quot; so it&#039;s clear that Obama meant to include the McCain campaign in his false indictment.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And now, in his latest &quot;dollar bill&quot; remark, Obama explicitly referenced McCain by name before proclaiming that nefarious forces would say that Obama doesn&#039;t look like other presidents on our currency, which was so obvious a racial appeal that even Obama&#039;s own campaign manager Axelrod had to admit to it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So I ask Gandelman or anyone else who cares to answer: How many times is Obama allowed to call McCain a racist, before McCain is permitted to call him out on it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Contra Mr. Gandelman&#39;s post, voters are not giving  McCain any more leeway than Obama.  Obama has explicitly played the race card on several occasions, and McCain has not done so once, and voters have eyes and ears and can perceive the truth.  </p>
<p>Is there a non-racial interpretation of this Obama statement, from a Florida fundraiser in June?</p>
<p>&#8220;It is going to be very difficult for Republicans to run on their stewardship of the economy or their outstanding foreign policy.  We know what kind of campaign they’re going to run.  They’re going to try to make you afraid. They’re going to try to make you afraid of me. ‘He’s young and inexperienced and he’s got a funny name. And did I mention he’s black?’&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/06/21/obama-theyre-going-to-try-to-make-you-afraid-of-me/"></a><a href="http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/06/21.." rel="nofollow">http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/06/21..</a>.</p>
<p>As Lindsey Graham said on Fox News Sunday this morning, referencing the above passage: &#8220;Who the hell is &#39;they&#39;&#8221;?  Well, in the preceding sentences, Obama referenced &#8220;the Republicans,&#8221; and &#8220;the campaign&#8221; so it&#39;s clear that Obama meant to include the McCain campaign in his false indictment.</p>
<p>And now, in his latest &#8220;dollar bill&#8221; remark, Obama explicitly referenced McCain by name before proclaiming that nefarious forces would say that Obama doesn&#39;t look like other presidents on our currency, which was so obvious a racial appeal that even Obama&#39;s own campaign manager Axelrod had to admit to it.</p>
<p>So I ask Gandelman or anyone else who cares to answer: How many times is Obama allowed to call McCain a racist, before McCain is permitted to call him out on it?</p>
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		<title>By: mikkel</title>
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		<dc:creator>mikkel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 01:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that Obama can&#039;t win on this issue and really thought he shouldn&#039;t have brought it up. I think there is a lot of social racism still (across all demographics/political views/regions) that makes it so a black person has to prove themselves more and has to be superior.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This sucks but I don&#039;t think it&#039;s going to go away anytime soon. I also have to say that I think in most instances racism doesn&#039;t affect the outcomes a whole lot if there is that extra effort. If Obama wanted to be honest he could just say he realizes this and will strive to make it a non-issue because he thinks his ideas are so much better. There is so much subconscious racism that it&#039;s bound to pop up even if it&#039;s not explicit, and most people feel very defensive about it so they are likely to deny everything if there is not explicit racial messages (which they will eagerly denounce). This phenomenon definitely isn&#039;t a republican/democrat, rich/poor thing or any other divide.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Marlow has a more cynical take that is probably closer to what Obama is trying to do over the long term. It&#039;s not like Obama is a saint, there are tons of instances where he has used deft political maneuvering. I just happen to think that in most instances Obama doesn&#039;t tell outright lies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that Obama can&#39;t win on this issue and really thought he shouldn&#39;t have brought it up. I think there is a lot of social racism still (across all demographics/political views/regions) that makes it so a black person has to prove themselves more and has to be superior.</p>
<p>This sucks but I don&#39;t think it&#39;s going to go away anytime soon. I also have to say that I think in most instances racism doesn&#39;t affect the outcomes a whole lot if there is that extra effort. If Obama wanted to be honest he could just say he realizes this and will strive to make it a non-issue because he thinks his ideas are so much better. There is so much subconscious racism that it&#39;s bound to pop up even if it&#39;s not explicit, and most people feel very defensive about it so they are likely to deny everything if there is not explicit racial messages (which they will eagerly denounce). This phenomenon definitely isn&#39;t a republican/democrat, rich/poor thing or any other divide.</p>
<p>Marlow has a more cynical take that is probably closer to what Obama is trying to do over the long term. It&#39;s not like Obama is a saint, there are tons of instances where he has used deft political maneuvering. I just happen to think that in most instances Obama doesn&#39;t tell outright lies.</p>
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