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	<title>Comments on: For Palestinians, Obama is No Better Than the Rest: Le Quotidien-Oran, Algeria</title>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 17:29:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Arabs who support terrorism while being culturally retarded have only themselves to blame for fouling their own nests.  Of course, Israel always has been a handy scapegoat as well as object of vicious hatred and crime.  Israel is blamed for as many things as Shaun has blamed Bush for on this site.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;Yet one has to question......will he change after being elected&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Change, indeed!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Which way will he move?  Well left, like the Clintons did (deserving the 1994 election and consequent muzzling), or closer toward the center (a la Brookings if the lefty fringe call him &quot;centrist&quot; or even &quot;right wing&quot;)?  He has made promises to everybody.  It will be interesting where he positions himself eventually; who he brings into his Cabinet and other top positions will likely tell the tale early.  (It remains to be seen how much he will work with or be forced to conced to the Dem establishment in DC.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Arabs who support terrorism while being culturally retarded have only themselves to blame for fouling their own nests.  Of course, Israel always has been a handy scapegoat as well as object of vicious hatred and crime.  Israel is blamed for as many things as Shaun has blamed Bush for on this site.</p>
<p>&#8220;Yet one has to question&#8230;&#8230;will he change after being elected&#8221;</p>
<p>Change, indeed!</p>
<p>Which way will he move?  Well left, like the Clintons did (deserving the 1994 election and consequent muzzling), or closer toward the center (a la Brookings if the lefty fringe call him &#8220;centrist&#8221; or even &#8220;right wing&#8221;)?  He has made promises to everybody.  It will be interesting where he positions himself eventually; who he brings into his Cabinet and other top positions will likely tell the tale early.  (It remains to be seen how much he will work with or be forced to conced to the Dem establishment in DC.)</p>
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		<title>By: Neocon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neocon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 10:17:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well this is not entirely unexpected.  Barak Obama went on record to say he was a zionist.  He is a firm supporter of Israel.  He has blasted Hamas and the Palestinian people as being the reasons and the problems for stalled talks in the debate.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Then he arrives at their door step.........and according to this article appears to snub the Palestinians to get back to campaigning.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The point is that Obama has predisposed himself to a rigid set of negotiating positions that could only change as a president and not as a candidate.  Yet one has to question......will he change after being elected, and if so is that not a betrayal of a larger trust the people have put in him?  Or  Will he NOT change and therefore the great expectations that he can indeed impact the mess that is the Palestine/Israeli conflict with his superb people skills.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Time will tell.  But I have said from day one that his statements shows that the Good Senator is very uneasy with the concepts of foreign affairs and international diplomacy.  He has done and said some things that has boxed him into a corner and now the candidate is defining himself for votes but the president will have to live with those definitions or change to be the great healer that he claims.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The question is how much will that image hurt him as he moves from candidate to president.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well this is not entirely unexpected.  Barak Obama went on record to say he was a zionist.  He is a firm supporter of Israel.  He has blasted Hamas and the Palestinian people as being the reasons and the problems for stalled talks in the debate.</p>
<p>Then he arrives at their door step&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;and according to this article appears to snub the Palestinians to get back to campaigning.  </p>
<p>The point is that Obama has predisposed himself to a rigid set of negotiating positions that could only change as a president and not as a candidate.  Yet one has to question&#8230;&#8230;will he change after being elected, and if so is that not a betrayal of a larger trust the people have put in him?  Or  Will he NOT change and therefore the great expectations that he can indeed impact the mess that is the Palestine/Israeli conflict with his superb people skills.</p>
<p>Time will tell.  But I have said from day one that his statements shows that the Good Senator is very uneasy with the concepts of foreign affairs and international diplomacy.  He has done and said some things that has boxed him into a corner and now the candidate is defining himself for votes but the president will have to live with those definitions or change to be the great healer that he claims.</p>
<p>The question is how much will that image hurt him as he moves from candidate to president.</p>
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		<title>By: pacatrue</title>
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		<dc:creator>pacatrue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 06:04:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How&#039;s that resistance thing working out for the Palestinians so far, Mr. Selim? Seems to be a winning strategy so far.... Or since Selim is in Algeria is he their version of the chicken hawk?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;m apparently in Super Snark mode lately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How&#39;s that resistance thing working out for the Palestinians so far, Mr. Selim? Seems to be a winning strategy so far&#8230;. Or since Selim is in Algeria is he their version of the chicken hawk?</p>
<p>I&#39;m apparently in Super Snark mode lately.</p>
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