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	<title>Comments on: Bush Will Leave $482 Billion Deficit (Or More) To Successor</title>
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		<title>By: RememberNovember</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/21393/bush-will-leave-482-million-deficit-or-more-to-successor/comment-page-1/#comment-145256</link>
		<dc:creator>RememberNovember</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 14:16:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Of course, there is no real way that Senator Obama can cut taxes, increase spending, and make a dent in the budget deficit. &quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Bush has already seen to it that the buck is passed, or more to the point 482 billion bucks. He started out with a surplus, and squandered his &quot;political capital&quot;.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What a horrible legacy he has left, a dog-poop laden footprint on America&#039;s tapestry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Of course, there is no real way that Senator Obama can cut taxes, increase spending, and make a dent in the budget deficit. &#8220;</p>
<p>Bush has already seen to it that the buck is passed, or more to the point 482 billion bucks. He started out with a surplus, and squandered his &#8220;political capital&#8221;.</p>
<p>What a horrible legacy he has left, a dog-poop laden footprint on America&#39;s tapestry.</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 19:55:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Stevens or Young &quot;have&quot; to retire, they can always become lobbyists.  [scowl]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Stevens or Young &#8220;have&#8221; to retire, they can always become lobbyists.  [scowl]</p>
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		<title>By: kritt11</title>
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		<dc:creator>kritt11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 19:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw, D. Uh it kind of makes the case for term limits that the GOP seemingly wanted back in the &#039;90&#039;s.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I know we have an innocent until proven guilty system, but I honestly think anyone under indictment should give up their seat to focus on their criminal probes. How attentive could Stevens be to the business at hand in the Senate? Especially since he will automatically be kicked off the 3 committees he is a ranking member of.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It does look good for the Democrats, but I am no longer naive enough to believe that their victory will negate the influence-peddlers on Capitol Hill. The writers of  &quot;The Broken Branch&quot; got it exactly right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw, D. Uh it kind of makes the case for term limits that the GOP seemingly wanted back in the &#39;90&#39;s.  </p>
<p>I know we have an innocent until proven guilty system, but I honestly think anyone under indictment should give up their seat to focus on their criminal probes. How attentive could Stevens be to the business at hand in the Senate? Especially since he will automatically be kicked off the 3 committees he is a ranking member of.</p>
<p>It does look good for the Democrats, but I am no longer naive enough to believe that their victory will negate the influence-peddlers on Capitol Hill. The writers of  &#8220;The Broken Branch&#8221; got it exactly right.</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 19:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did he run it like Halliburton?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;By the way, K, Ted Stevens just got indicted on federal corruption charges.  It seems the GOP hasn&#039;t learned from the 2006 elections yet.  Don Young also is being investigated, and it could end up with yet another Democratic Senator after November (Ted Stevens -- Another One Biges the Dust).  This could be a slaughter of the GOP this year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did he run it like Halliburton?</p>
<p>By the way, K, Ted Stevens just got indicted on federal corruption charges.  It seems the GOP hasn&#39;t learned from the 2006 elections yet.  Don Young also is being investigated, and it could end up with yet another Democratic Senator after November (Ted Stevens &#8212; Another One Biges the Dust).  This could be a slaughter of the GOP this year.</p>
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		<title>By: kritt11</title>
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		<dc:creator>kritt11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 18:37:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bush was supposed to run the government like a business. He kept his promise, running it  just like the oil enterprise he ran into the ground in Texas before Big Daddy&#039;s friends bailed him out!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bush was supposed to run the government like a business. He kept his promise, running it  just like the oil enterprise he ran into the ground in Texas before Big Daddy&#39;s friends bailed him out!</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 18:22:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;So much for having a Yalie with an MBA at the helm, LOL!&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;Hazelwood George?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;So much for having a Yalie with an MBA at the helm, LOL!&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Hazelwood George?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 17:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Of course, there is no real way that Senator Obama can cut taxes, increase spending, and make a dent in the budget deficit.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It&#039;s okay, so long as enough people believe he can.  Yes, We Can!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;* * *&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;Why does no one mention the current account deficit?&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What about unfunded future liabilities?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;* * *&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;Senator Obama&#039;s other problem is that he will end up with a Congress that is dominated by Democrats. The Democrats have a long list of political allies to pay off. I doubt that Congress will let the budget get in the way.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Of course not.  Once the Dems are in charge it will be back to &quot;Don&#039;t believe the scary talk about the deficit&quot;; &quot;Deficit as a reasonable proportion of GDP is perfectly fine and in fact beneficial&quot;; &quot;it&#039;s just right-wing hype over the deficit myth,&quot; etc.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What is worrisome is if the Dems get conceited over a large set of victories this November and want to lurch far to the left.  We saw warnings about some of this with that laundry list of Michelle Obama&#039;s on another thread, recycling a program of creating all kinds of new benefits at the taxpayers&#039; and business community&#039;s expense.  This would be insane.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Of course, there is no real way that Senator Obama can cut taxes, increase spending, and make a dent in the budget deficit.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#39;s okay, so long as enough people believe he can.  Yes, We Can!</p>
<p>* * *</p>
<p>&#8220;Why does no one mention the current account deficit?&#8221;</p>
<p>What about unfunded future liabilities?</p>
<p>* * *</p>
<p>&#8220;Senator Obama&#39;s other problem is that he will end up with a Congress that is dominated by Democrats. The Democrats have a long list of political allies to pay off. I doubt that Congress will let the budget get in the way.&#8221;</p>
<p>Of course not.  Once the Dems are in charge it will be back to &#8220;Don&#39;t believe the scary talk about the deficit&#8221;; &#8220;Deficit as a reasonable proportion of GDP is perfectly fine and in fact beneficial&#8221;; &#8220;it&#39;s just right-wing hype over the deficit myth,&#8221; etc.</p>
<p>What is worrisome is if the Dems get conceited over a large set of victories this November and want to lurch far to the left.  We saw warnings about some of this with that laundry list of Michelle Obama&#39;s on another thread, recycling a program of creating all kinds of new benefits at the taxpayers&#39; and business community&#39;s expense.  This would be insane.</p>
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		<title>By: ChrisWWW</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChrisWWW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 16:19:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ricorun,&lt;br&gt;As an addendum, I would say that it&#039;s not a forgone conclusion that certain demographics will always vote Republican or Democratic. The Democrats had to earn the respect of black voters by purging their party. The Republicans did the opposite.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ricorun,<br />As an addendum, I would say that it&#39;s not a forgone conclusion that certain demographics will always vote Republican or Democratic. The Democrats had to earn the respect of black voters by purging their party. The Republicans did the opposite.</p>
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		<title>By: kritt11</title>
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		<dc:creator>kritt11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 15:39:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So much for having a Yalie with an MBA at the helm, LOL!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So much for having a Yalie with an MBA at the helm, LOL!</p>
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		<title>By: Ricorun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ricorun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 15:37:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SD, demographics change for a reason. And IMO, the reason isn&#039;t ideology in most cases, it&#039;s their wallet and/or their sense of security. Security concerns are currently waning, wallet concerns are growing. Too many people feel like they&#039;re getting crowded out of the economy. And in that enviroment they aren&#039;t likely to think too kindly about the status quo. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That&#039;s basically what got Clinton elected (and just two years after Bush41&#039;s approval ratings were soaring as a result of the success of Gulf War 1). But people still weren&#039;t happy. So the GOP scored big gains two years later. In 2004 the GOP was talking about a &quot;permanent majority&quot;. Two years later they got their butts waxed. A lot can happen in two years. I&#039;m not saying it will happen again, but it could. So if the Dems do sweep into power in 2008, they&#039;d better be careful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SD, demographics change for a reason. And IMO, the reason isn&#39;t ideology in most cases, it&#39;s their wallet and/or their sense of security. Security concerns are currently waning, wallet concerns are growing. Too many people feel like they&#39;re getting crowded out of the economy. And in that enviroment they aren&#39;t likely to think too kindly about the status quo. </p>
<p>That&#39;s basically what got Clinton elected (and just two years after Bush41&#39;s approval ratings were soaring as a result of the success of Gulf War 1). But people still weren&#39;t happy. So the GOP scored big gains two years later. In 2004 the GOP was talking about a &#8220;permanent majority&#8221;. Two years later they got their butts waxed. A lot can happen in two years. I&#39;m not saying it will happen again, but it could. So if the Dems do sweep into power in 2008, they&#39;d better be careful.</p>
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		<title>By: RememberNovember</title>
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		<dc:creator>RememberNovember</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 15:08:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s 482 Billion, Joe, not Million. Muhahahahahahah!&lt;br&gt;-fixed thank you &lt;br&gt;&gt; do I get editorial credit now? lol &lt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#39;s 482 Billion, Joe, not Million. Muhahahahahahah!<br />-fixed thank you <br />&gt; do I get editorial credit now? lol &lt;</p>
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		<title>By: ChrisWWW</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChrisWWW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 15:01:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The new deficit numbers also do not account for any drains on the &lt;b&gt;Chinese&lt;/b&gt; treasury that might result from further declines in the housing market. &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Fixed.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If anyone cares, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.whyweworry.com/blog/2008/07/29/what-the-tax-cut-regime-has-wrought/&quot;&gt;I wrote a blog post about this issue today.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The new deficit numbers also do not account for any drains on the <b>Chinese</b> treasury that might result from further declines in the housing market. </p></blockquote>
<p>Fixed.</p>
<p>If anyone cares, <a href="http://www.whyweworry.com/blog/2008/07/29/what-the-tax-cut-regime-has-wrought/">I wrote a blog post about this issue today.</a></p>
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		<title>By: timr</title>
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		<dc:creator>timr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 14:51:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But does anyone really know what the total amount of the deficit? Looks to me like the CBO, and the WH have been lying like crazy for the past 7 years, no? Why does no one mention the current account deficit? My understanding is that that could become the biggest problem of all. And how about just how bush has been financing his 2 wars. China and Saudi Arabia have purchased so much of our debt that one might say that these 2 countries will be able to force the US govt to do whatever they want.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But does anyone really know what the total amount of the deficit? Looks to me like the CBO, and the WH have been lying like crazy for the past 7 years, no? Why does no one mention the current account deficit? My understanding is that that could become the biggest problem of all. And how about just how bush has been financing his 2 wars. China and Saudi Arabia have purchased so much of our debt that one might say that these 2 countries will be able to force the US govt to do whatever they want.</p>
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		<title>By: superdestroyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>superdestroyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 14:34:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rico, &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;given the demographic changes in the U.S., the idea that the Republicans are going to make a come back is laughable.  Besides the Republicans are probably going to be redistricted out of at least 30 seats in the House by 2012.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;George, &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;that is why the U.S. is going to become a one party state.  the country only needs one big spending, big government party.  Karl Rove and President Bush thought that it needed two and they were dead wrong.   &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It the Republicans are going to have 20% approval ratings, the least they could have done is balance the budget but the idiot President Bush was too stupid to think that way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rico, </p>
<p>given the demographic changes in the U.S., the idea that the Republicans are going to make a come back is laughable.  Besides the Republicans are probably going to be redistricted out of at least 30 seats in the House by 2012.  </p>
<p>George, </p>
<p>that is why the U.S. is going to become a one party state.  the country only needs one big spending, big government party.  Karl Rove and President Bush thought that it needed two and they were dead wrong.   </p>
<p>It the Republicans are going to have 20% approval ratings, the least they could have done is balance the budget but the idiot President Bush was too stupid to think that way.</p>
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		<title>By: GeorgeSorwell</title>
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		<dc:creator>GeorgeSorwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 14:29:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was George W Bush who cut taxes while waging two lengthy wars and creating the largest entitlement program since Medicare. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Why should I vote for another Republican?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was George W Bush who cut taxes while waging two lengthy wars and creating the largest entitlement program since Medicare. </p>
<p>Why should I vote for another Republican?</p>
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		<title>By: Ricorun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ricorun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 14:14:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>superdestroyer, for his first two years in office had the advantage of a Democratic congress, not a Repubican one. Things changed. Things can change again. So if elected, Obama may find himself in the same situation as Clinton in two years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>superdestroyer, for his first two years in office had the advantage of a Democratic congress, not a Repubican one. Things changed. Things can change again. So if elected, Obama may find himself in the same situation as Clinton in two years.</p>
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		<title>By: superdestroyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>superdestroyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 13:54:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course, there is no real way that Senator Obama can cut taxes, increase spending, and make a dent in the budget deficit.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Senator Obama&#039;s other problem is that he will end up with a Congress that is dominated by Democrats. The Democrats have a long list of political allies to pay off.  I doubt that Congress will let the budget get in the way. Senator Obama  will not have the advantage that Bill Clinton had of having a Republican Congress who would pass no new spending programs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course, there is no real way that Senator Obama can cut taxes, increase spending, and make a dent in the budget deficit.  </p>
<p>Senator Obama&#39;s other problem is that he will end up with a Congress that is dominated by Democrats. The Democrats have a long list of political allies to pay off.  I doubt that Congress will let the budget get in the way. Senator Obama  will not have the advantage that Bill Clinton had of having a Republican Congress who would pass no new spending programs.</p>
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