McCain’s Fudge House

"McCain just keeps on outdoing himself"

Mirror talk, in fact.

Even Shaun's McCain-bashing has its own demented rationality (it's an extension of Bush-bashing).

Normal people don't find McCain remarkable in any way. (That's his real problem.)

Giving a speech in a city on our border is a bit different then giving a campaign speech in Germany.

Yet if you notice that the Canadians and the Mexicans are not going stark raving mad over Obama. They understand politics in America to some extent.

I noticed on the speech that Obama gave in English that when he would say something intended to get a reaction from the crowd the crowd was remarkably silent............Im guessing that those 200k people didnt speak English.

Canadians and Mexicans do. They are entertwined and relevant to the American experience. Germany and France while being our allies are not entertwined into the American political experience.

I'm not saying that he should not have travelled all over the world on a fact finding tour but to give a speech like he did in Germany is and should have been a presidential thing and not a Candidate thing. His arrogance is astounding as is the arrogance of his handlers.
Big difference. If Obama wants to travel outside of the USA to make campaign speeches. Then he needs to be more intelligent about his target audience.

I will repeat. Many in Canada do actually vote in the American election or have direct influence over the choice of president. Those people in German only affect the far left crowd who believes America is evil and should adopt a German/France socialist state of mind.

Neocon,
There are over 200,000 Americans living in Germany. Try again.

McCain is doing the "bird with a broken wing" act right in front of everyone's nose and everyone is buying it hook, line and sinker. I almost fell off my chair laughing when his strategists had him "pathetically" at a german restaurant on the day Obama was in germany. Anyone notice the transparency of this little caper? The GOP doesn't make blunders like this. This was a purposeful act to make McCain look pathetic.

Now why on earth would the GOP want McCain to look pathetic next to Obama?

Because silly, Obama is still not the official democratic candidate. The GOP is going to do everything in its power to convince waffling superdelegates that Obama has it wrapped up in the bag. Until...

Larry Sinclair... and it's too late...

To see American flags waving in Europe was wonderful.
America and Eurtope both thank Obama for that. moment of hope over negativism and affirmation over demonization.
Even if the moment turns out to be brief, it was a moment to savor and relish, and perhaps to build on.

Why do the Obama bashers hate America? Why do they find that the only way to feel good about themselves is to put someone else down? Sad for them, bad for America and the world.

We seem to have short memories. What about McClown's Latin America trip?
http://blogs.dw-world.de/acrossthepond/tim/1.67...

McCain's Risky Latin America Trip
The Republican presidential candidate just completed a trip through Latin America that had The Washington Post asking, "Why is John McCain in Colombia?" McCain has his own answer, but some saw the trip as a risky gambit.

Wasn't McClown campaigning and speaking in Latin America? How is the Rockin Obamama Tour any different?

"Wasn't McClown campaigning and speaking in Latin America? How is the Rockin Obamama Tour any different?"

The reception to it, here as well as abroad?

"The reception to it, here as well as abroad?"

It all depends on the reaction?
Boring, confused politicians,abroad = good.
Inspiring politicians abroad = bad.

Got it.

So if Obama doesn't meet with political leaders overseas he gets hammered by McCain.

If Obama does meet with political leaders overseas (and has one public speech, which isn't even an overt campaign speech) he gets hammered by McCain.

Oh, I forget- the president isn't supposed to give public speeches, the president is supposed to only speak in front of highly vetted friendly audiences.... At least Obama is a candidate and isn't threatened by giving a public speech either in the US or abroad. I don't think he would feel threatened appearing in public to give speeches if he were president.

I still can't believe that the polls are still so close when comparing Obama and McCain and their public turnout.

"Why do the Obama bashers hate America?"

They don't, and you are dishonest if you continue to state that they do.

It's not even so much Obama-bashing but bashing the silliness of some of his fans, the cult crowd, some of them being that way even before Super Tuesday. Obama is by now fairly predictable: continuing to Look Good and utter sound bites that say all the Right Things that really don't amount to much, while he appeals to swing voters to clinch the general election this November.

"Got it."

You "got" the _opposite_ of it: McClown is far from rockin' like Obama.

"Giving a speech in a city on our border is a bit different then giving a campaign speech in Germany."

The talking point from the McCain campaign and GOP is it's a speech out of the country. You trying to tell us that distance makes it better?

I assume then that McCain didn't say anything while vising Central & South America on his trip a month or so ago. Was that still too close to our border to count?

McCain is just sputtering. That's understandable, but he's doing it in a increasingly ugly way.
Rove is back.

Runasim: "Why do the Obama bashers hate America?"
DLS: They don't, and you are dishonest if you continue to state that they do.

Now you're saying that the use of, "Why do [insert target's name here] hate America?" is dishonest if used by anyone else but the Republicans?

DLS, is this another double standard? Two in the same thread, that's got to be a record for you.

Of course it's dishonest, DLS. That's the point. It's making fun of rightwingers who say the same bullsh**.

Exactly ChrisWWW

Hate to bust your bubble Neocon but the fact is there is overwhelming support for Obama in Canada....I have yet to meet ANYONE who is for McCain...and I live in an area that gets lots of tourist from all over the world. Also the Canadian news often talks about his support worldwide.During the primaries there were busloads of Canadian volunteers going south of the border to help canvas. Canadians don't even do that for their own elections. Not to mention that his speech in Germany was not to "campaign" there but to begin healing the scars to America's rep around the world that the current admin has ruined. Had you listened to that speech you would have heard him say just that....and maybe IF there were really pauses..just maybe they were interpreters?? There are alot of American's in Germany,just as there are in Canada...and I for one am thrilled to have Obama to vote for.

"Now you're saying that the use of, "Why do [insert target's name here] hate America?" is dishonest if used by anyone else but the Republicans?"

No, obviously. Why do you leap to so many illogical thoughts?

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"Of course it's dishonest, DLS. That's the point. It's making fun of rightwingers who say the same bullsh**."

Fair enough if or when it's not true, I suppose. Only the truly lunatic fringe hate it as well as want it to fail in its endeavors -- while enjoying the many benefits of living here at the same time. [grin]

" the fact is there is overwhelming support for Obama in Canada"

The Anti-Bush is welcome, indeed, up north. Obama needs to make a speech in Quebec, which I believe had been and may still be the most anti-Iraq-war and anti-Bush province.

"IF there were really pauses..just maybe they were interpreters??"

No. They're for applause; politicians have long learned to pause when seeking applause, or laughter at jokes, both of which McCain recently failed to elicit in a speech here in Michigan.

Don't worry about the polls....the fact is those polls are conducted with people with land lines....Obama has huge support with the younger voters...The whole younger generation only use cell phones and the cost is higher to include them in the polling. So they aren't even counted at all.

Yet if you notice that the Canadians and the Mexicans are not going stark raving mad over Obama.

I hate to bust your bubble. I did not say that people were not supporting or advocating for Obama. I said what I said. There is a big difference between what you said and what I said.

There are americans living in every country. Presidential candidates do not go all over the world giving speeches to them.

As a Columbus native, I can tell you that German Village, Schmidt's Sausage Haus, and Schmidt's Fudge Haus are all awesome! I met my dad at Schmidt's for dinner just a few weeks ago and it's one of the must-experience places in town.

My wife used to work for the Greater Columbus Arts Council, which was in German Village for a time. And the most fantastic book store in which I have ever been--the Book Loft--is located there.

The area was originally setlled by German immigrants. In the 1950's, under "urban renewal," it was scheduled for destruction. But residents got together and restored the place. It became an inspiration for other such restorations throughout Columbus: Victorian Village, Italian Village, and soon, Franklinton.

Mark

I'm not sure where all this hate America crap came from. McCain and Obama are the only candidates we have to work with. Both have had displayed major screw ups in the political arena, but I still feel less uneasy about McCain. That's what it boils down to for me as voter.

"I still feel less uneasy about McCain. "

I would say that has been America's problem all along..
Many are more comfortable with the familiar white guy, regardsless of how bad his policies are (especially regarding women) and in spite of every indication that he would continue Bush's policies on many fronts,

Anything new, like the black guy with a 'fifferent' backcground,, is scary.

That's why we cling to oil while other countries surge past with new, alternative energy sources, fuel efficient cars and women heads of state. That's why we can't manage to provide everyone with health insurance, deal with our criminal and justice system and have problems with accepting science when it contradicts religious convictions.

In some ways we have a mentality similar to the Muslims, who also can't let go of comfortable cultural traditions and resist anything new, much to their own detriment.

Those who are more forward looking, often feel that we''re being smothered to death by those Americans with a clinging love affair with what's familiar and comfortable.

It will be a miracle if America expands its comfort zone and greets the future with hope rather than fear of the uncomfortable in this election.

"Many are more comfortable with the familiar white guy," runasim, you are the one who equivocated "white" with comfort. As a matter of fact, I made no mention of his race. But we all need to remember that he is both black and white, so the whole race card is a non-issue. Your bringing up the race issue makes no sense.

As far as women's issues are concerned, McCain is very much concerned for women and in favor of equal pay. He is also willing to work with liberal democrats to come up with a workable plan.

In a recent article:

" McCain said that Obama on Thursday in New York "went on at great length about how much he cares about women's issues" and that he believes Obama. He added, "But when you cut through all the smooth rhetoric, Sen. Obama's policies would make it harder for women to start new businesses, harder for women to create or find new jobs, harder for women to manage the family budget and harder for women and their families to meet their tax burden."

Obama's campaign disputed the claims and noted that McCain opposed a Senate measure to increase the time that workers have to file pay discrimination lawsuits, which is a priority for some women's groups. McCain told the audience that he has a record of supporting equal pay for women. He later told reporters that he opposed the Senate measure because he did not want "open-ended litigation by trial lawyers." He added that he has demonstrated his support for equal pay "in a whole broad variety of ways, from support of women in the military to all kinds of laws that provide employment" to women. He also commented on his willingness to upset fellow Senate Republicans by working with liberal Democrats, such as Sens. Russ Feingold (Wisc.) and Edward Kennedy (Mass.) (Babington, AP/Bergen Record, 7/12).

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