It makes me ashamed that we are even debating something like torture.
We were so proud of the Nuremberg trials and claimed the justice of personal responsibility as our own. This position says that principles only apply to other countries.

What are we teaching our children? We're saying that 'right' is what you can get away with, and 'wrong' only happens if you get caught and your lawyer can't legalese you off the hook.

Martin Mubanga, a joint British-Zambian citizen, from north London, was a victim of [extraordinary rendition]. He was kidnapped in Zambia in 2002 and was held and tortured in Guantánamo Bay for three years before being released. He faced no charges either there or in the UK.

There are thousands of innocent people subjected to what are crimes in most modern nations. That is not unfounded, nor are their rights to justice against criminals, even high-ranking American criminals. It's the law. I was not talking about those still in captivity, though any of them could eventually initiate a case, too, if they get out alive and sane.

None of these countries want these prisoners and the US can not return them to their country of origin if the country refuses to accept them into their fold.

You got me thinking. So I went googling. I cant find any case where any of these countries have requested any of these prisioners. The USA cannot force them upon their country of origin.

So now what?

Since as early as 2002, the United States has welcomed foreign interrogators from recognized
human rights abusing regimes onto the U.S. military base at Guantánamo Bay and given them access
to their citizens – and sometimes to non-citizens – detained there. Behind closed doors, the United
States has allowed security officials from countries such as Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Libya, Jordan,
China, and Tunisia to interrogate prisoners at the U.S. prison at Guantánamo. Detainees have been
subjected to threats and abuse from these foreign interrogators, with the active involvement of U.S.
forces in Guantánamo. Further, threats of torture, imprisonment, harm to one’s family and even death
upon return to their home country have solidified detainees’ fears of forced repatriation in some
instances.

In other words the facts are simple in this case. The prisoners still held in Guantanamo are citizens of countries in which their return makes them fear for their life. If they are from other countries then these countries have not requested extradition at least to my knowledge as far as my google exercise has revealed.

Laws state that if a prisioner fears for his life that it is against international law that said prisoner can be repatriated against his will.

Thus once again we end up with prisioners stuck in guantanamo who are dangers to society, whose home country cant wait to get their mitts on them and who do not want to be repatriated. I do agree with the supreme court decision on this. However the remaining detainees simply want to be turned lose.

I have said in the past I think there are a few commenters and ops here who would love to have a sleep over at their houses for these detainees.

Who knows, neocon? Let the (French) court decide.

If that is so then those mayors and officials who ruled you couldnt have a gun should all go to jail for denying rights for the last 30 years.

Maybe just maybe the democrats would have liked nothing better then to Impeach Bush and Cheney but that their really is NO impeachable crime.

Maybe just maybe all the calls of torture and whatever had some legal leg to stand on.

Maybe not. If that is so then why is the democrats going to win big in November. Perhaps they should be penalized for pissing of the left by not doing their jobs and they should all be voted out.

Just Maybe.