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	<title>Comments on: Dick Cheney vs. Congressional Oversight:  A Very Privileged Character</title>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/21157/dick-cheney-vs-congressional-oversight-a-very-privileged-character/comment-page-1/#comment-124353</link>
		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 18:53:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I can&#039;t help wondering what another impeachment would do. &quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Since the Iraq war started and even before, in this case with the Bush-Cheney haters, it would expose people as far worse than anyone associated with the Clinton impeachment.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The thing to do is to look and work forward to November and next January.  Vote Dem if you feel you must [grin] or merely if you feel you should (because the Dems are better or because the GOP is worse or deserves to be subject to &quot;house cleaning&quot; in the White House and in Congress).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The Bush administration&#039;s days are numbered and that number is low now as well as continuing to diminish.  They&#039;re the lamest of lame ducks by their own making.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What little they do (short of a war with Iran) is no big deal.  People need to grow up, calm down, and act as they feel fit about this, for example.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;[C]linics, hospitals and other providers of healthcare would be required to certify that they would not fire a worker who has religious objections to providing any particular &#039;health service.&#039; These could include multiple forms of contraception, including some birth control pills, IUDs and emergency &#039;morning after&#039; contraception.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/presidentbush/2008/07/abortion-reprod.html&quot;&gt;http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/presidentbush/2...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It&#039;s a late-in-the-administration sop to the Religious Right, which the administration (as do others) frequently takes for granted after elections and neglects, but occasionally gives them a sop, especially before elections so they&#039;ll be more likely to vote (Republican).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I can&#39;t help wondering what another impeachment would do. &#8220;</p>
<p>Since the Iraq war started and even before, in this case with the Bush-Cheney haters, it would expose people as far worse than anyone associated with the Clinton impeachment.</p>
<p>The thing to do is to look and work forward to November and next January.  Vote Dem if you feel you must [grin] or merely if you feel you should (because the Dems are better or because the GOP is worse or deserves to be subject to &#8220;house cleaning&#8221; in the White House and in Congress).</p>
<p>The Bush administration&#39;s days are numbered and that number is low now as well as continuing to diminish.  They&#39;re the lamest of lame ducks by their own making.</p>
<p>What little they do (short of a war with Iran) is no big deal.  People need to grow up, calm down, and act as they feel fit about this, for example.</p>
<p>&#8220;[C]linics, hospitals and other providers of healthcare would be required to certify that they would not fire a worker who has religious objections to providing any particular &#39;health service.&#39; These could include multiple forms of contraception, including some birth control pills, IUDs and emergency &#39;morning after&#39; contraception.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/presidentbush/2008/07/abortion-reprod.html"></a><a href="http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/presidentbush/2.." rel="nofollow">http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/presidentbush/2..</a>.</p>
<p>It&#39;s a late-in-the-administration sop to the Religious Right, which the administration (as do others) frequently takes for granted after elections and neglects, but occasionally gives them a sop, especially before elections so they&#39;ll be more likely to vote (Republican).</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 18:44:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;unitary&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Overused and hyped.  The main thing is the arrogance and withdrawal from everyone else as well as needless deliberately confrontational behavior.  Yes, the Dems have been creepy cretins* in Congress, but the White House has been awfully confrontational and uncooperative.  The public doesn&#039;t like it.  &quot;They only care about themselves.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;* &quot;Creepy Cretins?  That&#039;s the Republicans!&quot; -- Runasim, K. Ritter, et al</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;unitary&#8221;</p>
<p>Overused and hyped.  The main thing is the arrogance and withdrawal from everyone else as well as needless deliberately confrontational behavior.  Yes, the Dems have been creepy cretins* in Congress, but the White House has been awfully confrontational and uncooperative.  The public doesn&#39;t like it.  &#8220;They only care about themselves.&#8221;</p>
<p>* &#8220;Creepy Cretins?  That&#39;s the Republicans!&#8221; &#8212; Runasim, K. Ritter, et al</p>
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		<title>By: runasim</title>
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		<dc:creator>runasim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 16:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The single worst legacy of this administration is their installation of the unitary and insulated from law and accountability executive,  Pres. and VP alike. I have a hard time thinking straight when the topic comes up, because I get so agitated.  &lt;br&gt;Aside from these people getting away with murder, it&#039;s the precedent that&#039;s now on the books that makes me rip at  my hair in frustration.   &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In principle, I think Bush should have been impeached, because, as president, the final responsibility is his, even for what Cheney does and even for what Mukasey does.    As the decider, it&#039;s up to him to decide what&#039;s right and what&#039;s wrong. &lt;br&gt;My dilemma comes from the fact that we live in a post Clinton impeachment world.  Unlike the Nixon impeachment, in which Republicans stuck to principles, the Clinton impeachment was a political vendetta.  No one was fighting for justice; the goal was to destroy Clinton by any means possible,.  And I say  that without minizing the fact that lying in the course of official inquiries is a crime. &lt;br&gt;I was around and watching at the time, and it tore the country apart -  every bit as much as the Viet Nam war and the the civil rights movement did.  &lt;br&gt;It was ugly, and in many ways, the country never healed after that like it did after the  Nixon impeachment . .&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As we are in the middle of two wars and worrying about a third, plus having the economy in the tank,  I can&#039;t help wondering what another impeachment  would do.  Partisan hatreds are at such a fever pitch, that I don&#039;t even want to think what the US would be like to live in if it gets much worse.  &lt;br&gt;I do believe the common good has to be considered,  when the application of a single principle. is on the table, but determining the line in the sand, beyond which principles can&#039;t be bent is not easy.  It should be hard, because the common good is a princiole, too, one every bit as important as any other.  &lt;br&gt;In view of all the other complications, though, this one is particularly difficult -  for me, at least. .  .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The single worst legacy of this administration is their installation of the unitary and insulated from law and accountability executive,  Pres. and VP alike. I have a hard time thinking straight when the topic comes up, because I get so agitated.  <br />Aside from these people getting away with murder, it&#39;s the precedent that&#39;s now on the books that makes me rip at  my hair in frustration.   </p>
<p>In principle, I think Bush should have been impeached, because, as president, the final responsibility is his, even for what Cheney does and even for what Mukasey does.    As the decider, it&#39;s up to him to decide what&#39;s right and what&#39;s wrong. <br />My dilemma comes from the fact that we live in a post Clinton impeachment world.  Unlike the Nixon impeachment, in which Republicans stuck to principles, the Clinton impeachment was a political vendetta.  No one was fighting for justice; the goal was to destroy Clinton by any means possible,.  And I say  that without minizing the fact that lying in the course of official inquiries is a crime. <br />I was around and watching at the time, and it tore the country apart &#8211;  every bit as much as the Viet Nam war and the the civil rights movement did.  <br />It was ugly, and in many ways, the country never healed after that like it did after the  Nixon impeachment . .</p>
<p>As we are in the middle of two wars and worrying about a third, plus having the economy in the tank,  I can&#39;t help wondering what another impeachment  would do.  Partisan hatreds are at such a fever pitch, that I don&#39;t even want to think what the US would be like to live in if it gets much worse.  <br />I do believe the common good has to be considered,  when the application of a single principle. is on the table, but determining the line in the sand, beyond which principles can&#39;t be bent is not easy.  It should be hard, because the common good is a princiole, too, one every bit as important as any other.  <br />In view of all the other complications, though, this one is particularly difficult &#8211;  for me, at least. .  .</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 16:30:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Calm down.  Learn something from the past.  Do you think they&#039;ll start cooperating now, with only months to go before they leave?  [sigh]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Calm down.  Learn something from the past.  Do you think they&#39;ll start cooperating now, with only months to go before they leave?  [sigh]</p>
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		<title>By: DAMOZEL</title>
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		<dc:creator>DAMOZEL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 04:09:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nothing on earth could make John &#039;Waterboarding isn&#039;t torture&#039; Ashcroft look good to me.  I prefer Fredo.  At least he was an easy mark.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing on earth could make John &#39;Waterboarding isn&#39;t torture&#39; Ashcroft look good to me.  I prefer Fredo.  At least he was an easy mark.</p>
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		<title>By: kritt11</title>
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		<dc:creator>kritt11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 02:53:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did anyone seriously think that Bush would nominate an AG who wouldn&#039;t have his back?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; The last two AG&#039;s make Ashcroft look good, because he cared about the law, not protecting the rears of his superiors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did anyone seriously think that Bush would nominate an AG who wouldn&#39;t have his back?</p>
<p> The last two AG&#39;s make Ashcroft look good, because he cared about the law, not protecting the rears of his superiors.</p>
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		<title>By: Silhouette</title>
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		<dc:creator>Silhouette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 01:30:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t worry.  I have a feeling Cheney isn&#039;t above the law when this administration gets the boot in January.  In fact, I think Congress has plans to apply the law to its fullest when it comes to these Oil thugs.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Terrorists have no business running this country masking their terror as &quot;a war on terror&quot; ironically..&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Grandma always said, &quot;Time wounds all heels.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#39;t worry.  I have a feeling Cheney isn&#39;t above the law when this administration gets the boot in January.  In fact, I think Congress has plans to apply the law to its fullest when it comes to these Oil thugs.</p>
<p>Terrorists have no business running this country masking their terror as &#8220;a war on terror&#8221; ironically..</p>
<p>Grandma always said, &#8220;Time wounds all heels.&#8221;</p>
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		<dc:creator>i heard him come</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 23:50:30 +0000</pubDate>
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