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		<title>By: test &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Poll: Independent Voters Unenthusiastic About Obama And McCain</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 11:39:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Newsupdate wrote an interesting post today onHere&#8217;s a quick excerptBarack Obama and Republican Sen. John McCain. But a new poll suggests that independent voters are not particularly enthusiastic about either one of them. This political tidbit is noted by the Boston Globe which points to a new poll &#8230;   Read the rest of this great post here [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Newsupdate wrote an interesting post today onHere&#8217;s a quick excerptBarack Obama and Republican Sen. John McCain. But a new poll suggests that independent voters are not particularly enthusiastic about either one of them. This political tidbit is noted by the Boston Globe which points to a new poll &#8230;   Read the rest of this great post here [...]</p>
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		<title>By: elrod</title>
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		<dc:creator>elrod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 02:56:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a thought about Independents. They are different as a whole now than a year ago because of the long primary season. Big polls have shown a major shift in party ID over the last two years where Dems have a 10 point edge on Republicans, with Independents somewhere in between. What does this mean? &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It means that a lot of former Democratic-leaning Independents now call themselves Democrats after having participated in the Democratic primary. If they supported Obama (as most did) then they are very fired up about the election. Many of these folks still call themselves Independents, though, even if they are much more closely linked to Obama than the Republicans.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; If they supported Clinton, they probably don&#039;t support Obama at all. The key is that a big chunk of the &quot;Democrats&quot; not supporting Obama are actually former Independents who aligned with the Dems recently to vote for Clinton in the primary.  The number of lifelong Democrats not supporting Obama is extremely small. And I bet many of these Clinton Independents have gone back to Independent status and are part of the &quot;frustrated&quot; members of that group. I see them sitting the election out, however, rather than voting for McCain.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Then there are the Republicans who quit their party over Bush&#039;s failures. They fall into two major groups: first are conservatives angry at Bush&#039;s spending, religious right ties, and incompetence. For many of them McCain is the only Republican they would support. They are newly Independent and are excited for McCain. But they think the GOP needs a real makeover. The other group includes paleo-con Republicans angry at Bush over the war. McCain, to them, is actually worse than Bush because of his neocon beliefs. These conservative Independents are unenthusiastic about the election though some may be crossing to Obama.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Then there are the uninformed who don&#039;t even think about politics enough to identify with a party. They will never be interested.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Finally, there are the true swing independents. How large this group is is a constant question among analysts. Most people believe it&#039;s around 8% a most.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;When Independents are seen this way, the numbers make sense. The real issue is probably turnout.  If Obama consolidates Dems and breaks even on Independents, he will win easily.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#39;s a thought about Independents. They are different as a whole now than a year ago because of the long primary season. Big polls have shown a major shift in party ID over the last two years where Dems have a 10 point edge on Republicans, with Independents somewhere in between. What does this mean? </p>
<p>It means that a lot of former Democratic-leaning Independents now call themselves Democrats after having participated in the Democratic primary. If they supported Obama (as most did) then they are very fired up about the election. Many of these folks still call themselves Independents, though, even if they are much more closely linked to Obama than the Republicans.</p>
<p> If they supported Clinton, they probably don&#39;t support Obama at all. The key is that a big chunk of the &#8220;Democrats&#8221; not supporting Obama are actually former Independents who aligned with the Dems recently to vote for Clinton in the primary.  The number of lifelong Democrats not supporting Obama is extremely small. And I bet many of these Clinton Independents have gone back to Independent status and are part of the &#8220;frustrated&#8221; members of that group. I see them sitting the election out, however, rather than voting for McCain.</p>
<p>Then there are the Republicans who quit their party over Bush&#39;s failures. They fall into two major groups: first are conservatives angry at Bush&#39;s spending, religious right ties, and incompetence. For many of them McCain is the only Republican they would support. They are newly Independent and are excited for McCain. But they think the GOP needs a real makeover. The other group includes paleo-con Republicans angry at Bush over the war. McCain, to them, is actually worse than Bush because of his neocon beliefs. These conservative Independents are unenthusiastic about the election though some may be crossing to Obama.</p>
<p>Then there are the uninformed who don&#39;t even think about politics enough to identify with a party. They will never be interested.</p>
<p>Finally, there are the true swing independents. How large this group is is a constant question among analysts. Most people believe it&#39;s around 8% a most.</p>
<p>When Independents are seen this way, the numbers make sense. The real issue is probably turnout.  If Obama consolidates Dems and breaks even on Independents, he will win easily.</p>
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		<title>By: SteveK</title>
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		<dc:creator>SteveK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 02:30:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FlaLady and PWT have written the perfect comments to this style of &lt;i&gt;&quot;bait the reader to look moderate&quot;&lt;/i&gt; journalism... Silly replies full of mean spirited BS.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;i&gt;&quot;Barack Straps&quot;&lt;/i&gt; what a &lt;i&gt;&quot;McCain in the ass&quot;&lt;/i&gt; comments like this are PWT... can&#039;t you do better?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FlaLady and PWT have written the perfect comments to this style of <i>&#8220;bait the reader to look moderate&#8221;</i> journalism&#8230; Silly replies full of mean spirited BS.</p>
<p><i>&#8220;Barack Straps&#8221;</i> what a <i>&#8220;McCain in the ass&#8221;</i> comments like this are PWT&#8230; can&#39;t you do better?</p>
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		<title>By: jwest</title>
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		<dc:creator>jwest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 19:36:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is true that independents will decide the outcome of this election.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;These are people who don’t pay attention during the primaries, who (according to Pew Research) are in the group of citizens that don’t know who the vice president is, who Nancy Pelosi is, or who the governor of their state is.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;They will have to choose between a guy who knows a guy who says we are in a “mental recession”, or the guy who attended a church for 20 years led by some crazy black preacher shouting “God Damn America”.  Picture both of these commercials running every two minutes between the convention and the election.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Remember, these aren’t Keith Olbermann viewers.  They couldn’t tell you the three branches of government if you waterboarded them.  They don’t know or want to know anything about politics and the only thing they are sure of is that they are going to vote in November.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Good luck with these voters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is true that independents will decide the outcome of this election.</p>
<p>These are people who don’t pay attention during the primaries, who (according to Pew Research) are in the group of citizens that don’t know who the vice president is, who Nancy Pelosi is, or who the governor of their state is.</p>
<p>They will have to choose between a guy who knows a guy who says we are in a “mental recession”, or the guy who attended a church for 20 years led by some crazy black preacher shouting “God Damn America”.  Picture both of these commercials running every two minutes between the convention and the election.</p>
<p>Remember, these aren’t Keith Olbermann viewers.  They couldn’t tell you the three branches of government if you waterboarded them.  They don’t know or want to know anything about politics and the only thing they are sure of is that they are going to vote in November.</p>
<p>Good luck with these voters.</p>
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		<title>By: PWT</title>
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		<dc:creator>PWT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 19:35:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only people that are enthusiastic about this election are the Obama supporters (Barack Straps).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only people that are enthusiastic about this election are the Obama supporters (Barack Straps).</p>
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		<title>By: FlaLady</title>
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		<dc:creator>FlaLady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 17:23:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The more I read about Obama, the more convinced I am he is a total fraud!  He has spent his entire career in preparation for being elected President, without regard to the office itself, but just to satisfy his enormous ego!  From taking credit for Emil Jones legislation to plump up his skeletal resume, to hiring 300 foreign policy advisers to prepare his talking points on a daily basis.  They even provide him with possible questions and appropriate answers!  Can this man even think for himself?  Whose decisions will he be making if he gets elected POTUS?  Whose puppet is he?  Unfortunately, I don’t believe he cares about America or Americans.  He is just in it to feed his already over-inflated ego.  No experience, no qualifications, NOBAMA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The more I read about Obama, the more convinced I am he is a total fraud!  He has spent his entire career in preparation for being elected President, without regard to the office itself, but just to satisfy his enormous ego!  From taking credit for Emil Jones legislation to plump up his skeletal resume, to hiring 300 foreign policy advisers to prepare his talking points on a daily basis.  They even provide him with possible questions and appropriate answers!  Can this man even think for himself?  Whose decisions will he be making if he gets elected POTUS?  Whose puppet is he?  Unfortunately, I don’t believe he cares about America or Americans.  He is just in it to feed his already over-inflated ego.  No experience, no qualifications, NOBAMA.</p>
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