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		<title>By: DLS</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/21107/obama-versus-mccain-will-the-most-optimistic-candidate-win/comment-page-1/#comment-148372</link>
		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 22:32:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One last pair of remarks: &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That article also discusses how Obama made mistakes and learned from them, or learned to learn from them.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I thought also of another historical lesson, in this case someone&#039;s words in the past that, diabolical and demented as they were, eventually were made into deeds.  In this case, Obama&#039;s words and deeds already have a record buried in past obscurity nation-wide that matches the kind of words and deeds we are getting from him now.  His past record in that article appears to reinforce what one of his Montana staffers has said: &quot;It&#039;s not a head fake.  We think we can win it.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The public gets slick packaging but there is competence and thinking under it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One last pair of remarks: </p>
<p>That article also discusses how Obama made mistakes and learned from them, or learned to learn from them.</p>
<p>I thought also of another historical lesson, in this case someone&#39;s words in the past that, diabolical and demented as they were, eventually were made into deeds.  In this case, Obama&#39;s words and deeds already have a record buried in past obscurity nation-wide that matches the kind of words and deeds we are getting from him now.  His past record in that article appears to reinforce what one of his Montana staffers has said: &#8220;It&#39;s not a head fake.  We think we can win it.&#8221;</p>
<p>The public gets slick packaging but there is competence and thinking under it.</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 22:17:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In that article you&#039;ll also see how earlier Obama defied the so-called &quot;black leadership&quot; who to this day (astonishingly) believe they are the genuine leaders of &quot;the movement&quot; and &quot;the struggle&quot; on behalf of Oppressed Victims Forever, Incorporated [tm].&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;His sound advice to NAACP meeting attendees and outreach to the Religious Right and faith-based groups (you can bet he&#039;ll try to revivify the Religious Left if he&#039;s in the White House and cares about his past) and to establish a presence at NASCAR is similar to the outreach he engineered when it was time to draw a new district for himself in the Chicago area, as the article explains.  Enjoy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In that article you&#39;ll also see how earlier Obama defied the so-called &#8220;black leadership&#8221; who to this day (astonishingly) believe they are the genuine leaders of &#8220;the movement&#8221; and &#8220;the struggle&#8221; on behalf of Oppressed Victims Forever, Incorporated [tm].</p>
<p>His sound advice to NAACP meeting attendees and outreach to the Religious Right and faith-based groups (you can bet he&#39;ll try to revivify the Religious Left if he&#39;s in the White House and cares about his past) and to establish a presence at NASCAR is similar to the outreach he engineered when it was time to draw a new district for himself in the Chicago area, as the article explains.  Enjoy.</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 22:14:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;At least Barack Obama wants to bring us a brighter future.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Or at make many of us feel good when we look at him and hear his speeches.  That much we know, at least.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;(Incidentally, the New Yorker article, not the cover but the article, discusses problems Obama has faced before and is facing again.  &quot;Nobody knows him ... he has no experience ...&quot;)  There&#039;s actually a good deal of work and decision-making by the guy, who has plenty of smarts, with Obama.  (While I was still in Iowa, one guy who met Obama before the campaign began was introduced to him by someone who, just as one person quoted in the New Yorker article said, was likely to be President someday, he&#039;s that smart.)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;New Yorker article&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/07/21/080721fa_fact_lizza?currentPage=all&quot;&gt;http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/07/21/0...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;At least Barack Obama wants to bring us a brighter future.&#8221;</p>
<p>Or at make many of us feel good when we look at him and hear his speeches.  That much we know, at least.</p>
<p>(Incidentally, the New Yorker article, not the cover but the article, discusses problems Obama has faced before and is facing again.  &#8220;Nobody knows him &#8230; he has no experience &#8230;&#8221;)  There&#39;s actually a good deal of work and decision-making by the guy, who has plenty of smarts, with Obama.  (While I was still in Iowa, one guy who met Obama before the campaign began was introduced to him by someone who, just as one person quoted in the New Yorker article said, was likely to be President someday, he&#39;s that smart.)</p>
<p>New Yorker article</p>
<p><a href="http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/07/21/080721fa_fact_lizza?currentPage=all"></a><a href="http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/07/21/0.." rel="nofollow">http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/07/21/0..</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: katiec</title>
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		<dc:creator>katiec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 21:03:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How can McCain not act &quot;optomistic&quot; when the man does not believe our&lt;br&gt;country has any serious problems?&lt;br&gt;He touts his qualifications as a leader by trying to scare the voters into&lt;br&gt;believing he is the only one that can handle foreign policy and terror.&lt;br&gt;Well, look where we are 7 1/2 years of his and Bush policies?&lt;br&gt;At least Barack Obama wants to bring us a brighter future.&lt;br&gt;McCain does not think we need one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How can McCain not act &#8220;optomistic&#8221; when the man does not believe our<br />country has any serious problems?<br />He touts his qualifications as a leader by trying to scare the voters into<br />believing he is the only one that can handle foreign policy and terror.<br />Well, look where we are 7 1/2 years of his and Bush policies?<br />At least Barack Obama wants to bring us a brighter future.<br />McCain does not think we need one.</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 19:23:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>McCain offers nothing positive (same is true for the rest of the GOP) and his campaign is a survivor, attrition-based, &quot;default&quot; &quot;safe and sane candidate&quot; campaign.  He&#039;s the Not Obama candidate.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Obama is doing well even in redder-than-reddish-red Plains states.  (Oregon and Washington are misleading; their eastern dry sides are authentic arid West Red Nation territory and much of the western, wet parts of those states are also Red territory, but the populations and politics dominating those states are in the Blue urban areas.)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/16/opinion/16egan.html?em&amp;ex=1216353600&amp;en=d9d376a36e8a9120&amp;ei=5087%250A&quot;&gt;http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/16/opinion/16ega...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McCain offers nothing positive (same is true for the rest of the GOP) and his campaign is a survivor, attrition-based, &#8220;default&#8221; &#8220;safe and sane candidate&#8221; campaign.  He&#39;s the Not Obama candidate.</p>
<p>Obama is doing well even in redder-than-reddish-red Plains states.  (Oregon and Washington are misleading; their eastern dry sides are authentic arid West Red Nation territory and much of the western, wet parts of those states are also Red territory, but the populations and politics dominating those states are in the Blue urban areas.)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/16/opinion/16egan.html?em&#038;ex=1216353600&#038;en=d9d376a36e8a9120&#038;ei=5087%250A"></a><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/16/opinion/16ega.." rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/16/opinion/16ega..</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Rambie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rambie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 17:54:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you believe a lie you&#039;ll pass a polygraph test.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If Obama pulls a Kerry (roll over and let them kick you) then McCain will likely win, but he hasn&#039;t done that yet so hopefully he won&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you believe a lie you&#39;ll pass a polygraph test.  </p>
<p>If Obama pulls a Kerry (roll over and let them kick you) then McCain will likely win, but he hasn&#39;t done that yet so hopefully he won&#39;t.</p>
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		<title>By: ChrisWWW</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChrisWWW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 17:50:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Silhouette,&lt;br&gt;And Obama is a secret Muslim!!!! OMG!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Silhouette,<br />And Obama is a secret Muslim!!!! OMG!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Silhouette</title>
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		<dc:creator>Silhouette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 17:35:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you seen the youtube videos?  Their allegations are most dire for Obama.  And the guy took a polygraph test and passed it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Don&#039;t think this has been lost on the GOP.   If you think they&#039;re holding back because they&#039;ve decided to be &quot;nice&quot; or &quot;non-racist&quot; or &quot;politically correct&quot;, think again...  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjPuVJwWg-Q&quot;&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjPuVJwWg-Q&lt;/a&gt;  Their motivation is T-I-M-I-N-G.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The time to save the democratic shot at the Whitehouse is now, not after it&#039;s too late...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you seen the youtube videos?  Their allegations are most dire for Obama.  And the guy took a polygraph test and passed it.</p>
<p>Don&#39;t think this has been lost on the GOP.   If you think they&#39;re holding back because they&#39;ve decided to be &#8220;nice&#8221; or &#8220;non-racist&#8221; or &#8220;politically correct&#8221;, think again&#8230;  <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjPuVJwWg-Q">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjPuVJwWg-Q</a>  Their motivation is T-I-M-I-N-G.</p>
<p>The time to save the democratic shot at the Whitehouse is now, not after it&#39;s too late&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ChrisWWW</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChrisWWW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 17:08:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Silhouette is our very own Nostradamus! A very repetitive Nostradamus...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Silhouette is our very own Nostradamus! A very repetitive Nostradamus&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: vwcat</title>
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		<dc:creator>vwcat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 16:38:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish the media would leave the polls alone.  They mean nothing right now.  People are outside with the bbq and pulling weeds.  They are at the beach.  no one cares.&lt;br&gt;The intense delving into the polls and looking for meaning in them is stupid. People who answer the polls are not even thinking about stuff right now.  It&#039;s summer.&lt;br&gt;The media should pay so much attention to the issues and policy as they do to the meaningless horserace and boring talk endlessly of polls.&lt;br&gt;Pass the sunscreen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish the media would leave the polls alone.  They mean nothing right now.  People are outside with the bbq and pulling weeds.  They are at the beach.  no one cares.<br />The intense delving into the polls and looking for meaning in them is stupid. People who answer the polls are not even thinking about stuff right now.  It&#39;s summer.<br />The media should pay so much attention to the issues and policy as they do to the meaningless horserace and boring talk endlessly of polls.<br />Pass the sunscreen.</p>
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		<title>By: Silhouette</title>
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		<dc:creator>Silhouette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 16:35:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Smiles and polls aside.  Here is the progression of what will happen this Fall, just after the democratic convention in August. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;1. Obama scandal (finally) released to mainstream media outlets.  Just Google it, it&#039;s everywhere....except mainstream media...yet..&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;2. Obama (the democratic party) will be finished politically.  (Talk about backing the wrong guy and undermining trust in the democratic party once and for all.)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;3. McCain will slide into easy victory.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;******&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This scenario is slightly modified from my first prediction that they would use Obama&#039;s extermination of minorities in Chicago to run unopposed for Senate there.  However I&#039;m sure this will get sprinkled in with &quot;the theme&quot;.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As much as you wish him well, as much as anyone wants this to be an historic campaign.  As much as you think you can beat back the inevitable GOP trashing...your shields of crying &quot;racist!&quot; to deflect the inevitable will fall into the background of cries of outrage of what will be revealed. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It&#039;s time to quit chasing unicorns and butterflies and get down to the brass tacks of what is going to happen..  The GOP isn&#039;t going to hesistate to capitalize on this at the right moment.  At the right moment...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The Obama Trap..&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjPuVJwWg-Q&quot;&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjPuVJwWg-Q&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Smiles and polls aside.  Here is the progression of what will happen this Fall, just after the democratic convention in August. </p>
<p>1. Obama scandal (finally) released to mainstream media outlets.  Just Google it, it&#39;s everywhere&#8230;.except mainstream media&#8230;yet..</p>
<p>2. Obama (the democratic party) will be finished politically.  (Talk about backing the wrong guy and undermining trust in the democratic party once and for all.)</p>
<p>3. McCain will slide into easy victory.</p>
<p>******</p>
<p>This scenario is slightly modified from my first prediction that they would use Obama&#39;s extermination of minorities in Chicago to run unopposed for Senate there.  However I&#39;m sure this will get sprinkled in with &#8220;the theme&#8221;.</p>
<p>As much as you wish him well, as much as anyone wants this to be an historic campaign.  As much as you think you can beat back the inevitable GOP trashing&#8230;your shields of crying &#8220;racist!&#8221; to deflect the inevitable will fall into the background of cries of outrage of what will be revealed. </p>
<p>It&#39;s time to quit chasing unicorns and butterflies and get down to the brass tacks of what is going to happen..  The GOP isn&#39;t going to hesistate to capitalize on this at the right moment.  At the right moment&#8230;</p>
<p>The Obama Trap..</p>
<p> <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjPuVJwWg-Q">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjPuVJwWg-Q</a></p>
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