dr.e

As I said in my earlier post I have lots of problems with how Tony Snow did his job, because it came down to lying to the American people in the name of our current President all too often. But I'd never wish the suffering he's gone through or the pain of his family on someone because of those kind of political differences. Just as I disagreed with Reagan and his worshippers but never felt anything but sympathy for what he and his family had to be going through in his later years.

'Partisanship should cease at the cemetery gates. You only diminish yourself by disparaging good people who didn't happen to share your political principles.'

I absolutely agree with this. It is petty and meanspirited to celebrate the death or illness of a political opponent. But, at the same time, I'm not going to say that I thought he contributed to the nation's well-being, because that would be a lie.

As I said earlier, I wish death on no one regardless of their political affiliation, (even Karl Rove– though I think his rear end should be sitting in a prison cell, lol). Tony Snow was too young to die, and he was a father and son. I think his technique was brilliant, but it did not benefit the public interest, as he tended to deflect inquiries from the press, when they got too close to the truth.

Mr Satterfield would never comment about the hatred displayed by specimens of viciousness like Dr. donkey & DonQuixote because partisan hatred of the BDS variety is okay on the left, but is not okay if it comes from the right? Hmmm…… Very thoughtful.

You sow the wind you reap the whirlwind, all you right-wing nuts spent the nineties doing everything you could to destroy the Clinton Administration and you succeeded, then in 2000 through a Judicial coup, you shove the retard in that is currently in the White House down the Countries Throat. Had Gore won ( and he did) and made it to the White House, you would have spent the 00's destroying his administration.

And it's not BDS to observe that under the administration of the Retard, the US has managed to lose two wars despite having a military budget that half of the worlds military budget, that the constitution was used as toilet paper, that the US now officially endorses torture, that the US Dollar has lost 50% of it's value, that median wages are down and that we are now facing the largest financial crisis since the Great Depression.

And the “lies” that Tony Snow was telling, care to delineate them, or are you satisfied in your smug way that you've read a couple of books & know better?

The many falsehoods of Tony Snow
Even more Tony Snow falsehoods

Gandelman may be moderate by Kossack standards, but he is a sock puppet for Obama & that's okay for guys who call honest men like Tony Snow “a paid liar.”

If you work as a press secretary for the Bush Administration you are a paid liar, if you have any doubts, Scott McClellan- What Happened: Inside the Bush White House and Washington's Culture of Deception

What about Kerry & countless other moonbat lefties who lie ceaselessly about process crimes & countless nonsensical absurdities like Plamegate?

Process Crimes are crimes, Plamegate was a scandal and had it occurred under a Democratic Administration, it would have been used to impeach that president.

And the example given about Ted Kennedy is hardly the obscene hate-filled spew that libtards vomit on-line about Tony Snow….. The psycho-lefties simply project their own dishonesty onto their opponents

No, it's just a reflection of all the crap you right-wingers have been spewing at us for the last thirty years, there is no point being nice, polite or civil with you people, since you will take it as a sign of weakness. Right-wingers, like all bullies only start acting civilized after they have had their teeth kicked in. The real problem is that the moderates and most elected democrats haven't figured that out yet.

dr.e

And the “lies” that Tony Snow was telling, care to delineate them, or are you satisfied in your smug way that you've read a couple of books & know better?

Gandelman may be moderate by Kossack standards, but he is a sock puppet for Obama & that's okay for guys who call honest men like Tony Snow “a paid liar.” What about Kerry & countless other moonbat lefties who lie ceaselessly about process crimes & countless nonsensical absurdities like Plamegate?

And the example given about Ted Kennedy is hardly the obscene hate-filled spew that libtards vomit on-line about Tony Snow….. The psycho-lefties simply project their own dishonesty onto their opponents.

He was an administration mouthpiece. That's all. While the administration has made lives worse for thousands of Americans and people worldwide, I don't think Tony Snow had effect one way or the other.

In fact, the worse thing I can say about Tony Snow is that I was always disappointed when I saw he was hosting the O'Reilly Factor instead of BillO. Tony just wasn't as entertaining

Anyways, RIP Mr. Snow.

And a word for the bombthrowers: save your wrath for unrepentant a**holes like Helms.

I would agree.

Of course, I can't read J.G.'s mind…but Dr. E's reading was the one I took from Joe's words in sum.

Also, I would like to add, that I like The Moderate Voice.
It is one of the few (…is it the only…) site in the blogosphere where all ideologies meet and argue.

Yes, there is a liberal slant in general among the writers. But this can be invigorating to read sometimes. Snorting as I look at the screen over morning coffee, and then banging away on the keys.

I also enjoy Joe G's side-line love of the History of Comedy, and his posting of YouTube classics.

Anyhow, just my two cents.

Everyone can go back to their bomb throwing . . . .

The word “Slick” actually means smooth, to be without rough edges, polished in that sense, or without snags, to flow . TO be urbane, well organized. The word slick, at least in terms of the way a productivity-based culture would see it, is weighted to the positive.

I know a good many slick authors in my line of work; you have likely seen them on BookTV, who flow with ease, always ready, polished and never without a ready comment… not like myself and many other authors who sometimes sit there looking either like fawns in the headlights, or else need time to drop the bucket into the well and bring up something from the underground water that might be useful.

Slick: Old Norse, it is said, for sleek. Also smooth.

I cant mind-read our writers, but I believe this is the intent Joe meant. I know what you are saying that there's another form of the word in common usage that means shallow, hackneyed, positioning. I could be wrong, but looking at the rest of the article filled with words of much praise, I dont believe it was used this way here today.

In any event, I hope Mr Snow's passing was painless (smooth in that sense) and that he was surrounded by much love.

dr.e

–some commenters write to remark on the passing of Tony Snow and what that might mean, for his family and the press of times past, and that, to my two cents worth, is worthy commentary for a person who was a father, a husband, et al

–and some other commenters write to remark on something that, just my two cents worth, I think ought be discussed more rather than less… the state of information flow from our elected officials to us through the media pipeline; all of it: those who manage the flow controller valves at the top, the nature of what is put in, and the pipes that carry it, and the basins it's aimed at to refill, and which basins its diverted from chronically. And a number of etc's. I am sorry there is not a separate article at TMV today for you all to lay these particular issues out in full. I hope there will be in days to come.

And, regarding the 'posting comments rules' at TMV, as always, we ask you not to attack the writer, and not to attack each other, but to just stay with your take on the topic at hand.

Our Editor in Chief, Joe, is on the road, working hard in the huge heat and humidity of the midwest, and with cranky dial up at his motel. So, you get to hear from me. lol.

My regards to you all, and I'm not mom, just
Dr.E

“Such is politics in the 21st century where the politics of compassion, joy and consensus have been denigrated by many who think if you disagree on policies you have to hate.”

I agree.

One of the 1st to join in this denigration is Joe Gandelman, who took the opportunity of Tony Snow's death to describe him as “slick” (a euphemism for “dishonest”), and who said that Snow didn't leave his position as press secretary “with his reputation as pure as snow” (another euphemism for “dishonest” or “lacking in moral integrity”).

Even on the day on Tony Snow's death, Gandelman could not resist sliming him personally, just because he disagreed with his politics. And all the while, sanctimoniously preaching against those who are doing the same, but who are more straightforward about it.

If you have any examples of right wing comments on Kennedy, please bring them to our attention. It's fashionable to say “both sides do it”, but it's just not true.

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That was perhaps a bit hasty of me, wishing him ill.
On reflection, I agree with you and also hope he recovers.

I hope he recovers just long enough to realise he's at the back of the emergency room waiting line…with a hundred illegals ahead of him.

THAT WAS EASY!

When Kennedy's tumor was announced, I looked for hateful comments on the right wing blogs (along with the MSM, who would have loved find some).

Of course, there were none.

Conservatives aren't hate filled like liberals are. Our minds just don't work like that.

The internet never forgets. If you have any examples of right wing comments on Kennedy, please bring them to our attention. It's fashionable to say “both sides do it”, but it's just not true.

Why would a doctor draw hatred on a political site?

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