Leave chancing the country to smooth-talking slick playing Obama to another era. He's quite young. He could run again in four years and four years after that and four years after that and four years after that and four years after that…

Maybe by then he'll have matured enough to stand for something concrete.

Curiously to my list of sexist comments I pulled out of this topic blog not one comment has been made. Just like the Clinton campaign and BigMedia's sexist-fest…just silence…nothing…not a peep…benign aquiescence…totally ingrained and thoroughly acceptable sexism..

And they wonder why millions won't be swayed by all the sweet and/or sour talk in the world.

We aren't voting for Obama…..ever…never, never, never ever.

Get used to it. And when you've finally gotten that through your sexist heads, sit down and do the math as to our numbers. Then you'll see why we know what the GOP has known all along…that Obama is unelectable..

If I or anyone else dared to utter even one remotely similar bigoted (sexist) comment direct towards Obama supporters, I feel pretty certain I'd never be taken seriously anywhere and would be banned from posting here.

If Hillary attended a church for 20 years that espoused anti-american faith messages…and anti-black racism…the press would've SLAUGHTERED HER. We never would here her name again in connection with the Oval Office or the Senate.

If Hillary rose to power as a Senator espousing women's rights by beating back four women candidates who tried to run against her with a team of lawyers citing petty petition infractions, to run unopposed.. SHE WOULD'VE BEEN THE LAUGHING STOCK OF EVERY MEDIA OUTLET, her career would be demolished by a thousand cackling pundits..

But let Obama commit the same unforgiveable faux pas' and it's mentioned for sure, but dismissed by the same media intent on propping him to win against Hillary…at all costs…

Just flip it around. If Hillary was as inexperienced, arrogant and amoral as Obama, you'd be the first to drive her away. Yet you support the very thing you say you don't. Curious.

You think Obama rose to where he was by himself? I can tell you he had GOP help getting there. And he'll have the same help tearing him down once their feared enemy Clinton is formally finished. Just ask one of his most avid supporters, right pro-life Governor Ritter of Colorado. Any red flags yet?

No? Still wilfully sightless? The GOP will rip your blinders off soon enough.

So if you have legitimate objections to the one of two candidates who is less experienced, shifty, unknown and springing from a dubious past, you are a nasty woman.

The tactic with this type of trash-talking aims at belittling people back in line. When I expressed real concerns over at Talkleft about Obama, I was unceremoniously banned without warning. They then followed me here..well…some of them are on staff here…and attempted to drive out my comments of concern here as well.

The next best thing is to demean, browbeat and belittle-by-association.

I use these types of petty behavior as a litmus test. People usually resort to these types of tactics when they are afraid. The Obama supporters are visibly afraid of what the truth will do to their flawless candidate. When they resort to sexism on this level, this blatant and this insulting, I smile and stick a feather in my cap. I know I'm onto something big…

In fact, I personally am not sullen at all. I want Obama to win. I can't think of anything worse than a McCain presidency.

I admit I can't resist any opportunity to point out ways in which he deviates from what John Cole calls 'orthodoxy' and I call 'reasonable and enlightened principles.' But it's not because I have anything against Obama — far from it. I always knew he was (John Cole again) a 'centrist-pragmatist.'

I've moved away from thinking that compromise can fix the problems Bush willed on us — so I am not comfortable with Obama. I don't care because he's my candidate regardless.

But I can't help rejoicing in the discomfiture of people on the far left who led the way in promoting him….e.g., the Church of Lord Kos. He never should have been their candidate, and some of us knew it. It's mean, but I just haven't got fed up yet with saying 'I told you so.'

True…but then, a President Obama could be assassinated.
Obamafolks here . . . please not to jump on my head for noting this possibility.
Hillary has, after all, publicly speculated on this (re: parallels with Bobby Kennedy) as a reason to stay in the primary race.

I have great respect for the Clintons' will to power. I don't think the Clinton's floating the balloon of Hillary for VP was a jab. This is Hillary's one chance at the big brass ring . . .and they will grasp for anything.

Historically with the exception of Chenney the VP has been a rather insignificant position with almost no visibility and very little power. I really do not see Hillary accepting the role and I think her indication that she would be open to the position was her last jab at Obama. Letting him know that once again he was going to have to deal with her for the next 4 or 8 years and it was not going to be comfortable for him.

Obama would be insanse to offer her the VP post . . .and he won't.

“or (God help us all) a seat with the Supremes”

Jazz's tone illustrates the insanity of this idea as well. The thought of Hillary on the Supreme Court (potentially for decades) would send the GOP base into dementia…and be a massive boom to the lacklustre McCain.

McCain can only dream of Obama doing something so dumb. Alas, Obama is not so dumb . . . and will, I expect, keep Hillary at a distance.

He who sups with the Devil needs a long spoon.

Perhaps its true. But in a greater context I fail to understand why Hillary would even want to be vice president unless she truly believes this guy is going to die in office then WHY? Why would she want to be hidden away when as a senator she would have way more influence upon the party and legislation then would the VP.

Unless a deal has been brokered in which she is once again put in charge of Health Care. For unlike Barak Obama, Health care is a true passion for her rather then a talking point in a long list of talking points to get elected.

If that is the case then maybe. Any other reason and I think the logic is not their for being VP> and if she accepts the VP ship then he has once again flip flopped on his judgement agenda. I made a judgement…..

Lastly the one nuance that I don't think the Obama faithful have thought about is that Obama is depending upon moderate voters who DID NOT support Hillary. Putting her on the ticket is sure to drive many of them away and fire up a dead GOP.

Nothing stirs the right then Hillary. You know it was the Barak Obama talking point on electability. Hillary will fire up the GOP. Barak Obama won't. If Hillary lands on the ticket it will make a lie everything they have spoken for months.