Bill Clinton's situation is entirely different. He has not reconciled himself to a new subsidiary role in the Democratic Party.As Obama's star rises- his is setting.

Let me try again… Your “To correct some things Steve K. said and implied weeks ago…” says nothing!

What did “I say?” or what did “I imply” that has you so worked up that you bring it up in a thread that I'm not even involved in?

If you will provide a link to what I said / implied I will be happy to discuss any misunderstanding or disagreement we may have.

You remarked once about my negativity and possibly pessimism and I didn't take the time then to set things straight but I did so here. Hatred of Bush needs no explanation (demands for such are just wasting others' time). Opposition (related to negativism and pessimism, in a broader sense) has been demonstrated numerous times by the Democrats and opponents-of-Bush-and-the-GOP-at-any-cost, such as the idiotic near-zero-IQ obstructionism without any alternative solution to Bush's plan for the future of Social Security. (The Dems did nothing themselves and lied about the state of the program and its future.)

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“I can even remember a time in the last few years when the war was very popular.”

At the time the war was launched and during the military campaign (the war, not the occupation), nearly everyone supported it. Nearly all the tiny opposition was doing so not out of right on its side but simply in opposition to Bush, and to the USA engaging in and winning a war. (The Usual Suspects…)

“Certainly the Republicans were happy to attach themselves to President Bush when he was popular.”

Well, with the war, this was a somewhat positive thing but based on a negative state of affairs which has had Americans concerned. Namely, the Dems are seen as weak in the area of security, while the GOP is stronger, analogous to how the two parties are seen domestically when it comes to crime and responsibility for one's actions. (Note that even this didn't save the GOP in the 2006 elections. A large majority of Americans is tired of the problem-ridden occupation in Iraq and doesn't fear a terrorist attack tomorrow at home necessarily if we choose to vote Democratic.)

“Certainly the Republicans were happy to cut taxes during wartime. Certainly the Republicans were happy to cut taxes even as they created the largest entitlement program since Medicare.”

There's nothing wrong with reducing taxes in and of itself, which too many would jump to “know” as well. Creating a new entitlement is the GOP acting as Dems. (They were criticized by Dem voters for not offering a large enough entitlement.) The worse thing the GOP has done has been to increase spending and in addition to reducing taxes, has done something worse in its place, assumed more federal debt.

Obama's wrong to leap to wanting to increase taxes, rather than reduce spending (can he not find something truly wasteful that can be ended, if not more targets in addition that simply are politically attractive to him and the Dems) — I suspect he'd reduce spending in one area and increase spending even more in another. The spending, and the size and scope of the federal government in Washington and its nature, is the real problem here, as it has been for decades. Rather than be a government, it is a service agency and entitlement creater and dispensary (and vote-buying agent).

To correct some things Steve K. said and implied weeks ago, it's the Left that is negative and exhibits hatred…

For context, how about a link to my remark / implication and a coherent, non-emotional comment… “Mr. -101“

The Dems were thrown under Bush's war bus, and they didn't like it!
They don't like it when he (and the Repubs) continue to label every opposition to his policies and sanctioned bills as unpatriotic or unsupportive of the troops.

That's not the way to get kudos, even when deserved.
Bush drew the battle line, and now it's up to him to erase it. But he worn't, not even on visits to other countreis.

Certainly the Republicans were happy to attach themselves to President Bush when he was popular. Certainly the Republicans were happy to cut taxes during wartime. Certainly the Republicans were happy to cut taxes even as they created the largest entitlement program since Medicare.

To correct some things Steve K. said and implied weeks ago, it's the Left that is negative and exhibits hatred (such as towardBush, or hyped Religious Right demons, etc., degeneracy we see here on this site on numerous occasions), and while customarily appealing to emotion rather than reason (the Left's modus operandi), is defining itself as “Not X” more obscessively than anything the Canadians (not the USA), the Quebecois (not the ROC, not English), or France (reflexively opposing the USA as a matter of routine no matter what the USA does) have done lately.

Feel-good New and Increased Entitlements For All doesn't appeal to many of us as the alternative to “Bush is evil, Bush is demonic, the GOP is evil” pathology.

Will he be invited to *** SPEAK *** at the convention? And when, prime time or 2:30 PM?

Meanwhile, Obama, the American Idol candidate this year, needs no assistance.

He has already flip flopped on principals to reject public finanacing in order to out spend the GOP 3 to 1. He just pretends to care. He is a smooth talking preacher who is a born again chrisitan who is now moving to the center.

Perhaps not long after he takes office we will find out this smooth talking Senator also really doesn't have much sympathy for Abortion rights. Gay Marriage. I mean he is in favor of gun rights. The death penalty. He has claimed to be a Zionist.

Perhaps. AFter all he is very religious and we all know that ANYONE who is religious belongs to the Religious Right……..is a neoconservative and wants to end the world by encouraging armageddon.

Be afrad. Be very afraid.

Barbara Bush always got her punches in, even from the sidelines. Mrs. Edwards couldn't keep quiet, either.
When there's an emotional bond, things are harder to take with equanimity.

When we stop seeing people as living and breathing people, all analyses lose one touchstone of reality

I really empathized with Laura Bush when, in one interview, she was almost pleading: “He cares. He really does care.”

It does swing both ways.

And this isn't uncommon most past presidents hated or loved, the parties want to show they aren't the same as the past president.

The problem with Bill Clinton is that his wife just lost the primary. I imagine the Democrats would love a healing embrace and reconciliation between Obama and Clinton.

I don't think McCain wants to be too close to President Bush.

You're spending a lot of time in these threads complaining that the Democrats are as bad as the Republicans. Do you really think you can sell that?

Don't you have any affirmative case on behalf of the Republicans?

Bill Clinton………..But don’t feel alone, Mr. President.: according to the same article, Democrats are in a quandary about what to do about Bill Clinton.

Clinton wasn't thrown under the bus. She just lost the primary.

Unless you think Romney, Guiliani, Huckabee, and Thompson were also thrown under the bus?

Yes just like the Democrats have already threw Clinton under the Bus.

Is Cheney uninvited as well?

Are you saying the Republicans want to throw President Bush under the bus?