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	<title>Comments on: Obama starts to &#8220;un-nuance&#8221; Iraq (Updated)</title>
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		<title>By: JSpencer</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/20821/obama-starts-to-un-nuance-iraq/comment-page-2/#comment-142577</link>
		<dc:creator>JSpencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 03:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neocon, you still don&#039;t get it when it comes to Bush criticism. This isn&#039;t about destroying anybody, or spewing far left talking points, etc. It&#039;s very simply and very honestly about accountability. There is no mystery or conspiracy involved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neocon, you still don&#39;t get it when it comes to Bush criticism. This isn&#39;t about destroying anybody, or spewing far left talking points, etc. It&#39;s very simply and very honestly about accountability. There is no mystery or conspiracy involved.</p>
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		<title>By: JSpencer</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/20821/obama-starts-to-un-nuance-iraq/comment-page-2/#comment-142578</link>
		<dc:creator>JSpencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 03:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neocon, you still don&#039;t get it when it comes to Bush criticism. This isn&#039;t about destroying anybody, or spewing far left talking points, etc. It&#039;s very simply and very honestly about accountability. There is no mystery or conspiracy involved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neocon, you still don&#39;t get it when it comes to Bush criticism. This isn&#39;t about destroying anybody, or spewing far left talking points, etc. It&#39;s very simply and very honestly about accountability. There is no mystery or conspiracy involved.</p>
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		<title>By: Neocon</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/20821/obama-starts-to-un-nuance-iraq/comment-page-2/#comment-142575</link>
		<dc:creator>Neocon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 22:26:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is that a Superior Obama Supporter Yawn Runasim?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is that a Superior Obama Supporter Yawn Runasim?</p>
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		<title>By: Neocon</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/20821/obama-starts-to-un-nuance-iraq/comment-page-2/#comment-142576</link>
		<dc:creator>Neocon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 22:26:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is that a Superior Obama Supporter Yawn Runasim?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is that a Superior Obama Supporter Yawn Runasim?</p>
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		<title>By: runasim</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/20821/obama-starts-to-un-nuance-iraq/comment-page-2/#comment-142572</link>
		<dc:creator>runasim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 22:14:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yawn.</description>
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		<title>By: runasim</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/20821/obama-starts-to-un-nuance-iraq/comment-page-2/#comment-142574</link>
		<dc:creator>runasim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 22:14:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yawn.</description>
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		<title>By: Neocon</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/20821/obama-starts-to-un-nuance-iraq/comment-page-2/#comment-142571</link>
		<dc:creator>Neocon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 21:57:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My goal is to not make Obama people dislike Obama.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;My goal is to help those who are not sure, who are angry with Bush who might ordinarily vote for a Republican understand that there is much more at stake here then just a presidential election.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The coat tails of a national election rout could render the GOP inconsequential and put America on course for a one party system or at least a party that has a veto proof majority.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I want to keep reminding those people that Gasoline is soon going to be 5 dollars a gallon and it has zero to do with Iraq or Afghanistan.  In fact we are pumping more oil worldwide now then we did before the war.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The democrats have refused to allow drilling and continually block Nuclear power as well as the building of new refineries.  I want this country to understand that the reason we are having a melt down financially is because the Democrats want us to melt down so they can Drive a stake into the hearts of the GOP and assume ultimate power.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That is my goal.  That is why Im even here.  And to be honest if the Democrats of which I am one in name only were on the verge of being swept under the rug I would be trumpeting their cause.  Just as I was trumpeting Hillaries cause and defending Bill Clinton a few weeks ago.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Believe it or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My goal is to not make Obama people dislike Obama.  </p>
<p>My goal is to help those who are not sure, who are angry with Bush who might ordinarily vote for a Republican understand that there is much more at stake here then just a presidential election.</p>
<p>The coat tails of a national election rout could render the GOP inconsequential and put America on course for a one party system or at least a party that has a veto proof majority.</p>
<p>I want to keep reminding those people that Gasoline is soon going to be 5 dollars a gallon and it has zero to do with Iraq or Afghanistan.  In fact we are pumping more oil worldwide now then we did before the war.  </p>
<p>The democrats have refused to allow drilling and continually block Nuclear power as well as the building of new refineries.  I want this country to understand that the reason we are having a melt down financially is because the Democrats want us to melt down so they can Drive a stake into the hearts of the GOP and assume ultimate power.</p>
<p>That is my goal.  That is why Im even here.  And to be honest if the Democrats of which I am one in name only were on the verge of being swept under the rug I would be trumpeting their cause.  Just as I was trumpeting Hillaries cause and defending Bill Clinton a few weeks ago.</p>
<p>Believe it or not.</p>
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		<title>By: Neocon</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/20821/obama-starts-to-un-nuance-iraq/comment-page-2/#comment-142573</link>
		<dc:creator>Neocon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 21:57:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My goal is to not make Obama people dislike Obama.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;My goal is to help those who are not sure, who are angry with Bush who might ordinarily vote for a Republican understand that there is much more at stake here then just a presidential election.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The coat tails of a national election rout could render the GOP inconsequential and put America on course for a one party system or at least a party that has a veto proof majority.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I want to keep reminding those people that Gasoline is soon going to be 5 dollars a gallon and it has zero to do with Iraq or Afghanistan.  In fact we are pumping more oil worldwide now then we did before the war.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The democrats have refused to allow drilling and continually block Nuclear power as well as the building of new refineries.  I want this country to understand that the reason we are having a melt down financially is because the Democrats want us to melt down so they can Drive a stake into the hearts of the GOP and assume ultimate power.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That is my goal.  That is why Im even here.  And to be honest if the Democrats of which I am one in name only were on the verge of being swept under the rug I would be trumpeting their cause.  Just as I was trumpeting Hillaries cause and defending Bill Clinton a few weeks ago.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Believe it or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My goal is to not make Obama people dislike Obama.  </p>
<p>My goal is to help those who are not sure, who are angry with Bush who might ordinarily vote for a Republican understand that there is much more at stake here then just a presidential election.</p>
<p>The coat tails of a national election rout could render the GOP inconsequential and put America on course for a one party system or at least a party that has a veto proof majority.</p>
<p>I want to keep reminding those people that Gasoline is soon going to be 5 dollars a gallon and it has zero to do with Iraq or Afghanistan.  In fact we are pumping more oil worldwide now then we did before the war.  </p>
<p>The democrats have refused to allow drilling and continually block Nuclear power as well as the building of new refineries.  I want this country to understand that the reason we are having a melt down financially is because the Democrats want us to melt down so they can Drive a stake into the hearts of the GOP and assume ultimate power.</p>
<p>That is my goal.  That is why Im even here.  And to be honest if the Democrats of which I am one in name only were on the verge of being swept under the rug I would be trumpeting their cause.  Just as I was trumpeting Hillaries cause and defending Bill Clinton a few weeks ago.</p>
<p>Believe it or not.</p>
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		<title>By: runasim</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/20821/obama-starts-to-un-nuance-iraq/comment-page-2/#comment-142568</link>
		<dc:creator>runasim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 21:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, &lt;br&gt;Every scuffle makes me like Obama more.&lt;br&gt;The more I see, the more I like.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, <br />Every scuffle makes me like Obama more.<br />The more I see, the more I like.</p>
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		<title>By: runasim</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/20821/obama-starts-to-un-nuance-iraq/comment-page-2/#comment-142570</link>
		<dc:creator>runasim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 21:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, &lt;br&gt;Every scuffle makes me like Obama more.&lt;br&gt;The more I see, the more I like.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, <br />Every scuffle makes me like Obama more.<br />The more I see, the more I like.</p>
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		<title>By: Neocon</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/20821/obama-starts-to-un-nuance-iraq/comment-page-2/#comment-142566</link>
		<dc:creator>Neocon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 20:59:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But I am exrtremly disappointed to see the serial rages among Obama supporters (former or current.).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This should not surprise anyone really.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;When you look at the make up of Obama&#039;s supporters you are getting people of all  political persuasions.  Far left, left, Moderate, right of center and even some righies.  Libertarians as well as socialists and Communists have staked some small claim to him.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But that is his problem going forward.  Its as Huffington was trying to point out yesterday, he is not going to win by veering to the center.  Maybe, maybe not but the point is that for the most part all of these groups are suspicious of the other and they all have their agendas which they have painted on Obama.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If he can manage to hold this coalition together it will be mindboggling.  But it is what it is and its not going to be a pretty sight because EVERYONE who lays claim to Obama is interpreting his candidacy in a different way and seen in a different light.  It will not be long before the infighting that took out Hillary and trashed Bill Clinton as scum will spill over into the coalition of the willing.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It is what it is.  I find nothing surprising here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But I am exrtremly disappointed to see the serial rages among Obama supporters (former or current.).</p>
<p>This should not surprise anyone really.</p>
<p>When you look at the make up of Obama&#39;s supporters you are getting people of all  political persuasions.  Far left, left, Moderate, right of center and even some righies.  Libertarians as well as socialists and Communists have staked some small claim to him.</p>
<p>But that is his problem going forward.  Its as Huffington was trying to point out yesterday, he is not going to win by veering to the center.  Maybe, maybe not but the point is that for the most part all of these groups are suspicious of the other and they all have their agendas which they have painted on Obama.</p>
<p>If he can manage to hold this coalition together it will be mindboggling.  But it is what it is and its not going to be a pretty sight because EVERYONE who lays claim to Obama is interpreting his candidacy in a different way and seen in a different light.  It will not be long before the infighting that took out Hillary and trashed Bill Clinton as scum will spill over into the coalition of the willing.</p>
<p>It is what it is.  I find nothing surprising here.</p>
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		<title>By: Neocon</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/20821/obama-starts-to-un-nuance-iraq/comment-page-2/#comment-142569</link>
		<dc:creator>Neocon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 20:59:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But I am exrtremly disappointed to see the serial rages among Obama supporters (former or current.).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This should not surprise anyone really.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;When you look at the make up of Obama&#039;s supporters you are getting people of all  political persuasions.  Far left, left, Moderate, right of center and even some righies.  Libertarians as well as socialists and Communists have staked some small claim to him.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But that is his problem going forward.  Its as Huffington was trying to point out yesterday, he is not going to win by veering to the center.  Maybe, maybe not but the point is that for the most part all of these groups are suspicious of the other and they all have their agendas which they have painted on Obama.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If he can manage to hold this coalition together it will be mindboggling.  But it is what it is and its not going to be a pretty sight because EVERYONE who lays claim to Obama is interpreting his candidacy in a different way and seen in a different light.  It will not be long before the infighting that took out Hillary and trashed Bill Clinton as scum will spill over into the coalition of the willing.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It is what it is.  I find nothing surprising here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But I am exrtremly disappointed to see the serial rages among Obama supporters (former or current.).</p>
<p>This should not surprise anyone really.</p>
<p>When you look at the make up of Obama&#39;s supporters you are getting people of all  political persuasions.  Far left, left, Moderate, right of center and even some righies.  Libertarians as well as socialists and Communists have staked some small claim to him.</p>
<p>But that is his problem going forward.  Its as Huffington was trying to point out yesterday, he is not going to win by veering to the center.  Maybe, maybe not but the point is that for the most part all of these groups are suspicious of the other and they all have their agendas which they have painted on Obama.</p>
<p>If he can manage to hold this coalition together it will be mindboggling.  But it is what it is and its not going to be a pretty sight because EVERYONE who lays claim to Obama is interpreting his candidacy in a different way and seen in a different light.  It will not be long before the infighting that took out Hillary and trashed Bill Clinton as scum will spill over into the coalition of the willing.</p>
<p>It is what it is.  I find nothing surprising here.</p>
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		<title>By: runasim</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/20821/obama-starts-to-un-nuance-iraq/comment-page-2/#comment-142564</link>
		<dc:creator>runasim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 20:21:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can take the attacks by Obama opponents for what  they are- paritxan warfare. &lt;br&gt;I don&#039;t expexct to see inherent logic  there.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But I am exrtremly disappointed to see the serial rages among Obama supporters (former or current.).&lt;br&gt;They treat every separate issue and every single statement as if that were the ONLY  thing at stake in this election.  McCain and Obama are so strkingly different, in their philosophies, their policies  and in how they operate. It seems to me absolutely infantile to lose sight of  the whole spectrum every time a toe gets stubbed. or feelings get ruffled.  I thought the bitter Clinton fans were childish, but there are a  host of others with exactly the same mind set.  &lt;br&gt;I  wonder what kind of sheltered lives they&#039;ve  had that leads to this failure to accept that one can&#039;t always have every single thing exactly how one wants it.&lt;br&gt;In my world, a hungry man doesn&#039;t  refuse an entire meal because he doesm&#039;t like the vegetable on the  plate. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I fantasize about putting some of them in charge.  Let&#039;s see how they do when they actually have to be responsible  for the consequences.&lt;br&gt;Temper tantrums are easy. Responsible judgement takes a  broad and long-term  perspective and the considering of  consequences. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Is this really how we elect presidents and deicde the future of our country?&lt;br&gt;What a horrible, devastating thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can take the attacks by Obama opponents for what  they are- paritxan warfare. <br />I don&#39;t expexct to see inherent logic  there.</p>
<p>But I am exrtremly disappointed to see the serial rages among Obama supporters (former or current.).<br />They treat every separate issue and every single statement as if that were the ONLY  thing at stake in this election.  McCain and Obama are so strkingly different, in their philosophies, their policies  and in how they operate. It seems to me absolutely infantile to lose sight of  the whole spectrum every time a toe gets stubbed. or feelings get ruffled.  I thought the bitter Clinton fans were childish, but there are a  host of others with exactly the same mind set.  <br />I  wonder what kind of sheltered lives they&#39;ve  had that leads to this failure to accept that one can&#39;t always have every single thing exactly how one wants it.<br />In my world, a hungry man doesn&#39;t  refuse an entire meal because he doesm&#39;t like the vegetable on the  plate. </p>
<p>I fantasize about putting some of them in charge.  Let&#39;s see how they do when they actually have to be responsible  for the consequences.<br />Temper tantrums are easy. Responsible judgement takes a  broad and long-term  perspective and the considering of  consequences. </p>
<p>Is this really how we elect presidents and deicde the future of our country?<br />What a horrible, devastating thought.</p>
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		<title>By: runasim</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/20821/obama-starts-to-un-nuance-iraq/comment-page-2/#comment-142567</link>
		<dc:creator>runasim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 20:21:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can take the attacks by Obama opponents for what  they are- paritxan warfare. &lt;br&gt;I don&#039;t expexct to see inherent logic  there.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But I am exrtremly disappointed to see the serial rages among Obama supporters (former or current.).&lt;br&gt;They treat every separate issue and every single statement as if that were the ONLY  thing at stake in this election.  McCain and Obama are so strkingly different, in their philosophies, their policies  and in how they operate. It seems to me absolutely infantile to lose sight of  the whole spectrum every time a toe gets stubbed. or feelings get ruffled.  I thought the bitter Clinton fans were childish, but there are a  host of others with exactly the same mind set.  &lt;br&gt;I  wonder what kind of sheltered lives they&#039;ve  had that leads to this failure to accept that one can&#039;t always have every single thing exactly how one wants it.&lt;br&gt;In my world, a hungry man doesn&#039;t  refuse an entire meal because he doesm&#039;t like the vegetable on the  plate. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I fantasize about putting some of them in charge.  Let&#039;s see how they do when they actually have to be responsible  for the consequences.&lt;br&gt;Temper tantrums are easy. Responsible judgement takes a  broad and long-term  perspective and the considering of  consequences. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Is this really how we elect presidents and deicde the future of our country?&lt;br&gt;What a horrible, devastating thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can take the attacks by Obama opponents for what  they are- paritxan warfare. <br />I don&#39;t expexct to see inherent logic  there.</p>
<p>But I am exrtremly disappointed to see the serial rages among Obama supporters (former or current.).<br />They treat every separate issue and every single statement as if that were the ONLY  thing at stake in this election.  McCain and Obama are so strkingly different, in their philosophies, their policies  and in how they operate. It seems to me absolutely infantile to lose sight of  the whole spectrum every time a toe gets stubbed. or feelings get ruffled.  I thought the bitter Clinton fans were childish, but there are a  host of others with exactly the same mind set.  <br />I  wonder what kind of sheltered lives they&#39;ve  had that leads to this failure to accept that one can&#39;t always have every single thing exactly how one wants it.<br />In my world, a hungry man doesn&#39;t  refuse an entire meal because he doesm&#39;t like the vegetable on the  plate. </p>
<p>I fantasize about putting some of them in charge.  Let&#39;s see how they do when they actually have to be responsible  for the consequences.<br />Temper tantrums are easy. Responsible judgement takes a  broad and long-term  perspective and the considering of  consequences. </p>
<p>Is this really how we elect presidents and deicde the future of our country?<br />What a horrible, devastating thought.</p>
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		<title>By: Neocon</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/20821/obama-starts-to-un-nuance-iraq/comment-page-2/#comment-142563</link>
		<dc:creator>Neocon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 20:05:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He overestimates the intelligence of the press and the public.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yep every person who does not support Barak Obama is a nitwit and a moron.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Interesting that the last website I visited I noticed they were saying the same thing.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But your right Runasim you do not label people left or right.......you label them idiots, morons and The ultra intelligent Obama supporters.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You might want to read my timeline of events further up Runasim and try to understand why this hit the fan the way it did.  Instead of automatically assigning everyone who has anything negative to say as at 3rd grade level,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He overestimates the intelligence of the press and the public.</p>
<p>Yep every person who does not support Barak Obama is a nitwit and a moron.</p>
<p>Interesting that the last website I visited I noticed they were saying the same thing.</p>
<p>But your right Runasim you do not label people left or right&#8230;&#8230;.you label them idiots, morons and The ultra intelligent Obama supporters.</p>
<p>You might want to read my timeline of events further up Runasim and try to understand why this hit the fan the way it did.  Instead of automatically assigning everyone who has anything negative to say as at 3rd grade level,</p>
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		<title>By: Neocon</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/20821/obama-starts-to-un-nuance-iraq/comment-page-2/#comment-142565</link>
		<dc:creator>Neocon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 20:05:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He overestimates the intelligence of the press and the public.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yep every person who does not support Barak Obama is a nitwit and a moron.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Interesting that the last website I visited I noticed they were saying the same thing.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But your right Runasim you do not label people left or right.......you label them idiots, morons and The ultra intelligent Obama supporters.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You might want to read my timeline of events further up Runasim and try to understand why this hit the fan the way it did.  Instead of automatically assigning everyone who has anything negative to say as at 3rd grade level,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He overestimates the intelligence of the press and the public.</p>
<p>Yep every person who does not support Barak Obama is a nitwit and a moron.</p>
<p>Interesting that the last website I visited I noticed they were saying the same thing.</p>
<p>But your right Runasim you do not label people left or right&#8230;&#8230;.you label them idiots, morons and The ultra intelligent Obama supporters.</p>
<p>You might want to read my timeline of events further up Runasim and try to understand why this hit the fan the way it did.  Instead of automatically assigning everyone who has anything negative to say as at 3rd grade level,</p>
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		<title>By: runasim</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/20821/obama-starts-to-un-nuance-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-142561</link>
		<dc:creator>runasim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 19:34:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do believe I finally understand why Obama needed a second news conference.&lt;br&gt;He overestimates the intelligence of the press and the public.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;He underestimates the tendency to insert personal interprettions into everything heard and read.  To admit an error, then, becomes a threat to one&#039;s ego.&lt;br&gt;For those who don&#039;t like Obama in the first place, of course, its just a tempting opportunity to use their claws.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; I note how the first news conference is cited over and over, no matter how badly misinterpreted, while ignoring the second.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;To me, it seemed just plain logical that any plan would need to be refined and adjusted as to specific tactics, which specific troops to remove and when, etc. Only an idiot would  continue on a pre-determined course without paying  attention to all the details (like our occupation of Iraq).  I took this statement to mean, simply, that Obama will be paying attention to details and to the effects on the troops&#039; safety as the withdrawal gets underway.&lt;br&gt;Who knew that  this would be interpreted in such wild and divergent ways?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I guess Obama will have to learn to speak at 3rd grade level, very slowly, making sure he defines every word as he speaks.Even then, there would probably be arguments about the meaning  of &quot;the&#039;.  .  ,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do believe I finally understand why Obama needed a second news conference.<br />He overestimates the intelligence of the press and the public.</p>
<p>He underestimates the tendency to insert personal interprettions into everything heard and read.  To admit an error, then, becomes a threat to one&#39;s ego.<br />For those who don&#39;t like Obama in the first place, of course, its just a tempting opportunity to use their claws.</p>
<p> I note how the first news conference is cited over and over, no matter how badly misinterpreted, while ignoring the second.  </p>
<p>To me, it seemed just plain logical that any plan would need to be refined and adjusted as to specific tactics, which specific troops to remove and when, etc. Only an idiot would  continue on a pre-determined course without paying  attention to all the details (like our occupation of Iraq).  I took this statement to mean, simply, that Obama will be paying attention to details and to the effects on the troops&#39; safety as the withdrawal gets underway.<br />Who knew that  this would be interpreted in such wild and divergent ways?</p>
<p>I guess Obama will have to learn to speak at 3rd grade level, very slowly, making sure he defines every word as he speaks.Even then, there would probably be arguments about the meaning  of &#8220;the&#39;.  .  ,</p>
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		<title>By: runasim</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/20821/obama-starts-to-un-nuance-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-142562</link>
		<dc:creator>runasim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 19:34:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do believe I finally understand why Obama needed a second news conference.&lt;br&gt;He overestimates the intelligence of the press and the public.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;He underestimates the tendency to insert personal interprettions into everything heard and read.  To admit an error, then, becomes a threat to one&#039;s ego.&lt;br&gt;For those who don&#039;t like Obama in the first place, of course, its just a tempting opportunity to use their claws.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; I note how the first news conference is cited over and over, no matter how badly misinterpreted, while ignoring the second.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;To me, it seemed just plain logical that any plan would need to be refined and adjusted as to specific tactics, which specific troops to remove and when, etc. Only an idiot would  continue on a pre-determined course without paying  attention to all the details (like our occupation of Iraq).  I took this statement to mean, simply, that Obama will be paying attention to details and to the effects on the troops&#039; safety as the withdrawal gets underway.&lt;br&gt;Who knew that  this would be interpreted in such wild and divergent ways?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I guess Obama will have to learn to speak at 3rd grade level, very slowly, making sure he defines every word as he speaks.Even then, there would probably be arguments about the meaning  of &quot;the&#039;.  .  ,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do believe I finally understand why Obama needed a second news conference.<br />He overestimates the intelligence of the press and the public.</p>
<p>He underestimates the tendency to insert personal interprettions into everything heard and read.  To admit an error, then, becomes a threat to one&#39;s ego.<br />For those who don&#39;t like Obama in the first place, of course, its just a tempting opportunity to use their claws.</p>
<p> I note how the first news conference is cited over and over, no matter how badly misinterpreted, while ignoring the second.  </p>
<p>To me, it seemed just plain logical that any plan would need to be refined and adjusted as to specific tactics, which specific troops to remove and when, etc. Only an idiot would  continue on a pre-determined course without paying  attention to all the details (like our occupation of Iraq).  I took this statement to mean, simply, that Obama will be paying attention to details and to the effects on the troops&#39; safety as the withdrawal gets underway.<br />Who knew that  this would be interpreted in such wild and divergent ways?</p>
<p>I guess Obama will have to learn to speak at 3rd grade level, very slowly, making sure he defines every word as he speaks.Even then, there would probably be arguments about the meaning  of &#8220;the&#39;.  .  ,</p>
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		<title>By: Neocon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neocon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 17:24:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AS for any..........ANY republican that would cross over and vote for Barak Obama is a vote for the party that wants to end the GOP in America.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Anyone who would vote for Obama is essentially voting to end their party and support a party that despises Republicans.  Read their platform.  Read their agenda.  Read Obama&#039;s own issues agenda. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I am trying to prevent a one party America right now.  This is really not about Obama.  I believe he is the next president but if tons of Republicans cross over and vote for Obama then its going to COAT TAIL to the local elections and this nation is in a humongous danger of becoming run by an unknown who has a veto proof majority in congress.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;A vote for Obama by any Crossover or by any Independent is most definetly a vote for change and its a vote for the demise of the GOP party.  A vote for Obama by moderate Republicans or conservative Democrats is not a vote for change it is a vote for very serious long term ramifications in America.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That is what I will continue to hammer home for the next months.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AS for any&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.ANY republican that would cross over and vote for Barak Obama is a vote for the party that wants to end the GOP in America.</p>
<p>Anyone who would vote for Obama is essentially voting to end their party and support a party that despises Republicans.  Read their platform.  Read their agenda.  Read Obama&#39;s own issues agenda. </p>
<p>I am trying to prevent a one party America right now.  This is really not about Obama.  I believe he is the next president but if tons of Republicans cross over and vote for Obama then its going to COAT TAIL to the local elections and this nation is in a humongous danger of becoming run by an unknown who has a veto proof majority in congress.</p>
<p>A vote for Obama by any Crossover or by any Independent is most definetly a vote for change and its a vote for the demise of the GOP party.  A vote for Obama by moderate Republicans or conservative Democrats is not a vote for change it is a vote for very serious long term ramifications in America.</p>
<p>That is what I will continue to hammer home for the next months.</p>
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		<title>By: Neocon</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/20821/obama-starts-to-un-nuance-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-142560</link>
		<dc:creator>Neocon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 17:24:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AS for any..........ANY republican that would cross over and vote for Barak Obama is a vote for the party that wants to end the GOP in America.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Anyone who would vote for Obama is essentially voting to end their party and support a party that despises Republicans.  Read their platform.  Read their agenda.  Read Obama&#039;s own issues agenda. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I am trying to prevent a one party America right now.  This is really not about Obama.  I believe he is the next president but if tons of Republicans cross over and vote for Obama then its going to COAT TAIL to the local elections and this nation is in a humongous danger of becoming run by an unknown who has a veto proof majority in congress.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;A vote for Obama by any Crossover or by any Independent is most definetly a vote for change and its a vote for the demise of the GOP party.  A vote for Obama by moderate Republicans or conservative Democrats is not a vote for change it is a vote for very serious long term ramifications in America.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That is what I will continue to hammer home for the next months.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AS for any&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.ANY republican that would cross over and vote for Barak Obama is a vote for the party that wants to end the GOP in America.</p>
<p>Anyone who would vote for Obama is essentially voting to end their party and support a party that despises Republicans.  Read their platform.  Read their agenda.  Read Obama&#39;s own issues agenda. </p>
<p>I am trying to prevent a one party America right now.  This is really not about Obama.  I believe he is the next president but if tons of Republicans cross over and vote for Obama then its going to COAT TAIL to the local elections and this nation is in a humongous danger of becoming run by an unknown who has a veto proof majority in congress.</p>
<p>A vote for Obama by any Crossover or by any Independent is most definetly a vote for change and its a vote for the demise of the GOP party.  A vote for Obama by moderate Republicans or conservative Democrats is not a vote for change it is a vote for very serious long term ramifications in America.</p>
<p>That is what I will continue to hammer home for the next months.</p>
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