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		<title>By: runasim</title>
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		<dc:creator>runasim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 23:53:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SD,&lt;br&gt;You carry on about the one party system IN EVERY SINGLE COMMENT so much that you&#039;ve convinced me at alst.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It&#039;ll be great, and I can&#039;t wait.   &lt;br&gt;Thanks for making me see the light.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SD,<br />You carry on about the one party system IN EVERY SINGLE COMMENT so much that you&#39;ve convinced me at alst.</p>
<p>It&#39;ll be great, and I can&#39;t wait.   <br />Thanks for making me see the light.</p>
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		<title>By: superdestroyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>superdestroyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 20:09:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike_P, as the U.S. become a one party state, doe it really matter that Georgia or Alabama elect more Democrats?  All it does is allow the most senior members of the Democratic Party from other states to reap the benefits of the coming one party state while states like Alabama get little in return. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Do you really believe that a part whose intellectual center is in NYC, SF, and LA really care about blue collar whites in poor counties in the deep south?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike_P, as the U.S. become a one party state, doe it really matter that Georgia or Alabama elect more Democrats?  All it does is allow the most senior members of the Democratic Party from other states to reap the benefits of the coming one party state while states like Alabama get little in return. </p>
<p>Do you really believe that a part whose intellectual center is in NYC, SF, and LA really care about blue collar whites in poor counties in the deep south?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike_P</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike_P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 19:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Silhouette, I kinda&#039; like the idea of the &quot;Democrat&quot; (sic) Party  leaders (in this case, the majority of Democratic Party primary voters) selecting our nominee.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As a mostly life-long Southerner, I&#039;m under no illusion that Democratic candidates will sweep the South this year.  But that doesn&#039;t mean the Party shouldn&#039;t invest and campaign heavily in the South.  It wasn&#039;t that long ago that the South was as solidly Democratic as it is now Republican.  The Party, and Obama in particular, are engaged in a so-called &quot;50 state strategy,&quot; building organization and Party ID for the long term.  There are significant signs that it is having an effect.  While a lot of the Republicans&#039; recent losses are due to their own failures, as were the Democratic southern losses over the previous 3 decades, having  organizations in place increases the party&#039;s ability to recruit good candidates, helps increase Democratic Party identification among voters and importantly, get out the vote efforts on election day. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It&#039;s a long-term strategy that has shown enough signs of early success that this Southerner hopes Democrats continue to work hard to earn votes here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Silhouette, I kinda&#39; like the idea of the &#8220;Democrat&#8221; (sic) Party  leaders (in this case, the majority of Democratic Party primary voters) selecting our nominee.</p>
<p>As a mostly life-long Southerner, I&#39;m under no illusion that Democratic candidates will sweep the South this year.  But that doesn&#39;t mean the Party shouldn&#39;t invest and campaign heavily in the South.  It wasn&#39;t that long ago that the South was as solidly Democratic as it is now Republican.  The Party, and Obama in particular, are engaged in a so-called &#8220;50 state strategy,&#8221; building organization and Party ID for the long term.  There are significant signs that it is having an effect.  While a lot of the Republicans&#39; recent losses are due to their own failures, as were the Democratic southern losses over the previous 3 decades, having  organizations in place increases the party&#39;s ability to recruit good candidates, helps increase Democratic Party identification among voters and importantly, get out the vote efforts on election day. </p>
<p>It&#39;s a long-term strategy that has shown enough signs of early success that this Southerner hopes Democrats continue to work hard to earn votes here.</p>
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		<title>By: Silhouette</title>
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		<dc:creator>Silhouette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 18:16:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Of course the democrats can win the South with Clinton!  That&#039;s a no brainer...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ooops...wait a minute...oh, that&#039;s right...&quot;we&quot; picked the sure-loser....&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I got a phone call from the democrat fundraisers yesterday.  I told them to walk, that I was giving no money to my political party until they nominate the uniting candidate Clinton.  Period.  They listen when you talk $$.  I say that each and every democrat utterly disgusted that our leaders hand-selected a losing, dividing candidate tell them to fund their own damn political party...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Because it no longer belongs to us anyway...why should we foot the bills?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh&#8230;</p>
<p>Of course the democrats can win the South with Clinton!  That&#39;s a no brainer&#8230;</p>
<p>Ooops&#8230;wait a minute&#8230;oh, that&#39;s right&#8230;&#8221;we&#8221; picked the sure-loser&#8230;.</p>
<p>I got a phone call from the democrat fundraisers yesterday.  I told them to walk, that I was giving no money to my political party until they nominate the uniting candidate Clinton.  Period.  They listen when you talk $$.  I say that each and every democrat utterly disgusted that our leaders hand-selected a losing, dividing candidate tell them to fund their own damn political party&#8230;</p>
<p>Because it no longer belongs to us anyway&#8230;why should we foot the bills?</p>
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		<title>By: Neocon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neocon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 14:50:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay SD Ill Bite.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Whats wrong with living in a socialist country run by Hispanics and Blacks where we have all our needs taken care of and we can reduce our military to the size of Canada&#039;s and ask someone else in the world to take care of us and protect us?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Why is that so bad.  I&#039;m kinda looking forward to your idea of the future.  Free everything for everyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay SD Ill Bite.</p>
<p>Whats wrong with living in a socialist country run by Hispanics and Blacks where we have all our needs taken care of and we can reduce our military to the size of Canada&#39;s and ask someone else in the world to take care of us and protect us?</p>
<p>Why is that so bad.  I&#39;m kinda looking forward to your idea of the future.  Free everything for everyone.</p>
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		<title>By: superdestroyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>superdestroyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 14:02:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As the Republican Party becomes irrelevant, I hope that this type of hyper partisan tea leaf reading stops. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The Democratic candidates have a huge advantage is that they do not seem to effect each other the way Republican candidates do.  If a Republican Controlled School Board wants to teach evolution, then all Republicans are tarred as anti-science idiots.  Yet, if Democratic politicians in Chicago want to sue gun makers, pay racial reparations, or sue corporations because they profited from slavery 150 years ago, it does not affect moderate Democrats. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As the Democratic party become more dominate, it is going to easy for it to look more moderate while actually implementing more liberal policies.  Someone like Jim Webb will be able to vote against gun control, reparations, racial quotas while knowing that there are at least 50 Democrats in the Senate capable of safely voting for the liberal policy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As the Republican Party becomes irrelevant, I hope that this type of hyper partisan tea leaf reading stops. </p>
<p>The Democratic candidates have a huge advantage is that they do not seem to effect each other the way Republican candidates do.  If a Republican Controlled School Board wants to teach evolution, then all Republicans are tarred as anti-science idiots.  Yet, if Democratic politicians in Chicago want to sue gun makers, pay racial reparations, or sue corporations because they profited from slavery 150 years ago, it does not affect moderate Democrats. </p>
<p>As the Democratic party become more dominate, it is going to easy for it to look more moderate while actually implementing more liberal policies.  Someone like Jim Webb will be able to vote against gun control, reparations, racial quotas while knowing that there are at least 50 Democrats in the Senate capable of safely voting for the liberal policy.</p>
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