Comments on: What’s Wrong with Alabama? http://themoderatevoice.com/20704/whats-wrong-with-alabama/ An Internet hub for moderates, centrists, and independents, with domestic and international news, analysis, original reporting, and popular features from the left, center, and right Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:10:28 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Jazz http://themoderatevoice.com/20704/whats-wrong-with-alabama/comment-page-1/#comment-122852 Jazz Sun, 29 Jun 2008 23:24:30 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/legitimacy/20704/whats-wrong-with-alabama/#comment-122852 timr, I really don't know what to tell you at this point. The state AG sends an investigator to gather handwriting samples and testimony, and he GETS ARRESTED? The locals certainly have a lot to answer for. The numbers are staggering, even if you got every African American out to vote every time. Is it really that impossible for you to consider that some small, local group of Democrats are humans also, and might be prone to corruption and wrongdoing if it would benefit them? Do you seriously think that it's *only* the Republicans every single time and every Democratic activist is a saint?<br><br>If so, I can't help you. All I'm saying is that it's worth the AG's time to investigate and certainly looks suspect. timr, I really don't know what to tell you at this point. The state AG sends an investigator to gather handwriting samples and testimony, and he GETS ARRESTED? The locals certainly have a lot to answer for. The numbers are staggering, even if you got every African American out to vote every time. Is it really that impossible for you to consider that some small, local group of Democrats are humans also, and might be prone to corruption and wrongdoing if it would benefit them? Do you seriously think that it's *only* the Republicans every single time and every Democratic activist is a saint?

If so, I can't help you. All I'm saying is that it's worth the AG's time to investigate and certainly looks suspect.

]]> By: superdestroyer http://themoderatevoice.com/20704/whats-wrong-with-alabama/comment-page-1/#comment-122848 superdestroyer Sun, 29 Jun 2008 20:56:56 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/legitimacy/20704/whats-wrong-with-alabama/#comment-122848 timr, <br><br>LBJ stole votes in Duvall county that was overwhelmingly Democratic. Stealing votes in one county that affects a state election is the easiest thing to do. <br><br>When there are few if any competative local elections, the turnout should be lower. When the turnout is well above the state average, red flags should be raised. <br><br>There were the precients in Philly where more than 100% of the registered voters voted. since they were in black neighborhoods where the Republicans are incapable of sending observers, it is easier to steal votes. timr,

LBJ stole votes in Duvall county that was overwhelmingly Democratic. Stealing votes in one county that affects a state election is the easiest thing to do.

When there are few if any competative local elections, the turnout should be lower. When the turnout is well above the state average, red flags should be raised.

There were the precients in Philly where more than 100% of the registered voters voted. since they were in black neighborhoods where the Republicans are incapable of sending observers, it is easier to steal votes.

]]> By: timr http://themoderatevoice.com/20704/whats-wrong-with-alabama/comment-page-1/#comment-122844 timr Sun, 29 Jun 2008 20:50:21 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/legitimacy/20704/whats-wrong-with-alabama/#comment-122844 Jazz, really, can you link to one?<br> SuperD, and if the dems out number the repigs by that much, why would they bother to cheat? Hasn't it been the case in the past-LBJ-won by 52 votes comes to mind-that it is easier and much more necessary to cheat when the election is down to just a few votes? Now I can cite several districts here in Texas where that happened in the primaries(all that I have heard about-local news only-were between repigs, no dems involved, and since there were no dems involved, the Tx AG-repig nor the DoJAG-also repig, and suspect because he was not fired like the 7 others, sat on their hands and did............nothing. Big whoop there. Jazz, really, can you link to one?
SuperD, and if the dems out number the repigs by that much, why would they bother to cheat? Hasn't it been the case in the past-LBJ-won by 52 votes comes to mind-that it is easier and much more necessary to cheat when the election is down to just a few votes? Now I can cite several districts here in Texas where that happened in the primaries(all that I have heard about-local news only-were between repigs, no dems involved, and since there were no dems involved, the Tx AG-repig nor the DoJAG-also repig, and suspect because he was not fired like the 7 others, sat on their hands and did…………nothing. Big whoop there.

]]> By: timr http://themoderatevoice.com/20704/whats-wrong-with-alabama/comment-page-1/#comment-122843 timr Sun, 29 Jun 2008 20:41:47 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/legitimacy/20704/whats-wrong-with-alabama/#comment-122843 but what proof do the repigs have, real proof, not stats-which can be made to prove anything.? Other than the fact that a county that is 70% black, one that no repig actually bothered to campaign in, and SURPRISE, a whole bunch voted dem. Ahhhh, did anyone think that maybe just maybe that those voters are kind of feeling their oats because Obama is the dem candidate for prez? So a whole bunch of them came out to vote. Or maybe there was a local issue or person that the voters really cared about. I am really sick and tired of people seeing "conspiracies" everywhere. 99.9% of the time there is no conspiracy. Chaos rules! but what proof do the repigs have, real proof, not stats-which can be made to prove anything.? Other than the fact that a county that is 70% black, one that no repig actually bothered to campaign in, and SURPRISE, a whole bunch voted dem. Ahhhh, did anyone think that maybe just maybe that those voters are kind of feeling their oats because Obama is the dem candidate for prez? So a whole bunch of them came out to vote. Or maybe there was a local issue or person that the voters really cared about. I am really sick and tired of people seeing “conspiracies” everywhere. 99.9% of the time there is no conspiracy. Chaos rules!

]]> By: superdestroyer http://themoderatevoice.com/20704/whats-wrong-with-alabama/comment-page-1/#comment-122833 superdestroyer Sun, 29 Jun 2008 19:24:44 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/legitimacy/20704/whats-wrong-with-alabama/#comment-122833 Considering that Perry county is about 70% black, it is amazing that the Democratic candiate only received 70% of the vote. <br><br>Timr, <br><br>It is actually harder to Republicans to commit fraud because there are few counties in the U.S that are as overwhelming Republican as the bluest counties are overwhelming Democratic. <br><br>In places like St Louis where the Repubicans do not even bother to campaign and the Republicans do not field candidates for most offices, it is much easier for Democrats to cheat that in a county that is 55% Republican and 45% Democratic. Considering that Perry county is about 70% black, it is amazing that the Democratic candiate only received 70% of the vote.

Timr,

It is actually harder to Republicans to commit fraud because there are few counties in the U.S that are as overwhelming Republican as the bluest counties are overwhelming Democratic.

In places like St Louis where the Repubicans do not even bother to campaign and the Republicans do not field candidates for most offices, it is much easier for Democrats to cheat that in a county that is 55% Republican and 45% Democratic.

]]> By: Jazz http://themoderatevoice.com/20704/whats-wrong-with-alabama/comment-page-1/#comment-122825 Jazz Sun, 29 Jun 2008 18:35:43 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/legitimacy/20704/whats-wrong-with-alabama/#comment-122825 FYI.... registered Independent (who is not backing McCain)<br><br>There are plenty of stories of voter fraud involving Repulicans also, each and every year. This just happens to be the latest one to hit the presses and it just happened to be about Democrats in one Alabama County. But that doesn't mean that it's not news just because it happens to (possibly) involve Democrats. FYI…. registered Independent (who is not backing McCain)

There are plenty of stories of voter fraud involving Repulicans also, each and every year. This just happens to be the latest one to hit the presses and it just happened to be about Democrats in one Alabama County. But that doesn't mean that it's not news just because it happens to (possibly) involve Democrats.

]]> By: timr http://themoderatevoice.com/20704/whats-wrong-with-alabama/comment-page-1/#comment-122824 timr Sun, 29 Jun 2008 18:28:43 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/legitimacy/20704/whats-wrong-with-alabama/#comment-122824 its always stories about the dems doing voter fraud isn't it? The repigs are just so totally honest that "they" would never consider doing anything like that. Rumors and innuendo, no proof, but always the snide way the "facts" are presented. And its always a repig who is so zealous in persecuting those rotten dems who despoil our pristine system. What was it ,7 DoJ AG's got fired because they would not bring cases of voter fraud against those dirty dems. and 93-7=86 who were not fired. Hmmmmmmm. Innuendo and rumors can work both ways, right? So did those other 86 DoJ lawyers make any cases against dems and voter fraud? Well they tried to in NJ, lots of leaks but no actual case, other cases have been dismissed because they were flat out stoopid-grads of liberty U law school maybe?-So what lies ahead between now and Nov, how many more federal cases of the dirty dems abusing the system thru VOTER FRAUD! (GASP)!!! its always stories about the dems doing voter fraud isn't it? The repigs are just so totally honest that “they” would never consider doing anything like that. Rumors and innuendo, no proof, but always the snide way the “facts” are presented. And its always a repig who is so zealous in persecuting those rotten dems who despoil our pristine system. What was it ,7 DoJ AG's got fired because they would not bring cases of voter fraud against those dirty dems. and 93-7=86 who were not fired. Hmmmmmmm. Innuendo and rumors can work both ways, right? So did those other 86 DoJ lawyers make any cases against dems and voter fraud? Well they tried to in NJ, lots of leaks but no actual case, other cases have been dismissed because they were flat out stoopid-grads of liberty U law school maybe?-So what lies ahead between now and Nov, how many more federal cases of the dirty dems abusing the system thru VOTER FRAUD! (GASP)!!!

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