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		<title>By: Unity</title>
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		<dc:creator>Unity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:25:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Unity...&lt;/strong&gt;

It was an event that had &#8220;media hype&#8221; written all over it before the words &#8220;media  [...]...</description>
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<p>It was an event that had &#8220;media hype&#8221; written all over it before the words &#8220;media  [...]&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: No Time To Think &#187; Blog Archive &#187; FEEDING THE BEAST REDUX</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/20676/clinton-obama-unity-in-unity-are-wounds-too-profound-to-heal/comment-page-1/#comment-113115</link>
		<dc:creator>No Time To Think &#187; Blog Archive &#187; FEEDING THE BEAST REDUX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 05:48:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton when they trashed each other, when each accused the other of hypocrisy, of dishonesty, of being a [...]</description>
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		<title>By: runasim</title>
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		<dc:creator>runasim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 18:04:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Janinedm &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; The &quot;stupid brat&#039; thing&quot; refers to all those who are  so busy fighting yesterday&#039;s battles that they fail  to take responsibility for how they affect today&#039;s and tomorrow&#039;s battles.  &lt;br&gt;Actions, as well as inaction, have consequences.  Not taking responsiblility for consequences does amount to acting like a spoiled brat.  It&#039;s certainly  not how responsible adults act  to safeguard the future of the nation.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Our government  beiginning in 2009 will be what  &#039;we, the people, ask it to be by voting or not voting.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I was speaking in generalities.  You have to determine the extent to which the shoe fits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Janinedm </p>
<p> The &#8220;stupid brat&#39; thing&#8221; refers to all those who are  so busy fighting yesterday&#39;s battles that they fail  to take responsibility for how they affect today&#39;s and tomorrow&#39;s battles.  <br />Actions, as well as inaction, have consequences.  Not taking responsiblility for consequences does amount to acting like a spoiled brat.  It&#39;s certainly  not how responsible adults act  to safeguard the future of the nation.</p>
<p>Our government  beiginning in 2009 will be what  &#39;we, the people, ask it to be by voting or not voting.</p>
<p>I was speaking in generalities.  You have to determine the extent to which the shoe fits.</p>
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		<title>By: runasim</title>
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		<dc:creator>runasim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 18:04:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Janinedm &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; The &quot;stupid brat&#039; thing&quot; refers to all those who are  so busy fighting yesterday&#039;s battles that they fail  to take responsibility for how they affect today&#039;s and tomorrow&#039;s battles.  &lt;br&gt;Actions, as well as inaction, have consequences.  Not taking responsiblility for consequences does amount to acting like a spoiled brat.  It&#039;s certainly  not how responsible adults act  to safeguard the future of the nation.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Our government  beiginning in 2009 will be what  &#039;we, the people, ask it to be by voting or not voting.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I was speaking in generalities.  You have to determine the extent to which the shoe fits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Janinedm </p>
<p> The &#8220;stupid brat&#39; thing&#8221; refers to all those who are  so busy fighting yesterday&#39;s battles that they fail  to take responsibility for how they affect today&#39;s and tomorrow&#39;s battles.  <br />Actions, as well as inaction, have consequences.  Not taking responsiblility for consequences does amount to acting like a spoiled brat.  It&#39;s certainly  not how responsible adults act  to safeguard the future of the nation.</p>
<p>Our government  beiginning in 2009 will be what  &#39;we, the people, ask it to be by voting or not voting.</p>
<p>I was speaking in generalities.  You have to determine the extent to which the shoe fits.</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 16:03:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, there&#039;s always the consideration that if they stay home that, because their numbers are substantial, it could cause the plodding Survivor McCain to prevail in the end.  Is that what they want?  I doubt it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, there&#39;s always the consideration that if they stay home that, because their numbers are substantial, it could cause the plodding Survivor McCain to prevail in the end.  Is that what they want?  I doubt it.</p>
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		<title>By: janinedm</title>
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		<dc:creator>janinedm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 13:08:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No. It&#039;s not about settling scores. My ability to suffer fools is higher on the internet than it is in person, trust me. I have limits, though. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I will point out that I didn&#039;t call anybody any names, which you just did in spades. That&#039;s different, you&#039;re merely correcting me, so the stupid brat thing is absolutely appropriate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No. It&#39;s not about settling scores. My ability to suffer fools is higher on the internet than it is in person, trust me. I have limits, though. </p>
<p>I will point out that I didn&#39;t call anybody any names, which you just did in spades. That&#39;s different, you&#39;re merely correcting me, so the stupid brat thing is absolutely appropriate.</p>
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		<title>By: My new WordPress MU Site &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Clinton Obama Unity In Unity: Are Wounds Too Profound To Heal?</title>
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		<dc:creator>My new WordPress MU Site &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Clinton Obama Unity In Unity: Are Wounds Too Profound To Heal?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 10:55:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] unknown wrote an interesting post today onHere&#8217;s a quick excerptA day after Obama wrote a $4600 check to Hillary Clinton, First Read has learned Bill and Hillary Clinton have returned the favor, donating the maximum to the Illinois senator’s campaign, a Clinton spokesperson says. &#8230; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] unknown wrote an interesting post today onHere&#8217;s a quick excerptA day after Obama wrote a $4600 check to Hillary Clinton, First Read has learned Bill and Hillary Clinton have returned the favor, donating the maximum to the Illinois senator’s campaign, a Clinton spokesperson says. &#8230; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Buck Naked Politics</title>
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		<dc:creator>Buck Naked Politics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 09:29:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;U-N-I-T-Y!  And the Bloggers Say:&lt;/strong&gt;

By Damozel &#124; At The Moderate Voice, Joe Gandelman speculates that the wounds might be too profound to heal. I personally doubt it. A month in political time is equal to a year in real time. And as the subsequent post shows, many Democrats were moved by...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>U-N-I-T-Y!  And the Bloggers Say:</strong></p>
<p>By Damozel | At The Moderate Voice, Joe Gandelman speculates that the wounds might be too profound to heal. I personally doubt it. A month in political time is equal to a year in real time. And as the subsequent post shows, many Democrats were moved by&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: runasim</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/20676/clinton-obama-unity-in-unity-are-wounds-too-profound-to-heal/comment-page-1/#comment-143333</link>
		<dc:creator>runasim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 08:48:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Yes, my post was patronizing, but the implication that Obama&#039;s supporters are Confederates deserve it&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Deserve it?  Is that the question - to settle scores.?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And then we blame Congress for not being able to work togethr ot get anything done.   &lt;br&gt;If that&#039;s the atitude, then the country really is stuck on stupid.-    spoiled brats fighting each other on deck while the boat sinks.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There are too many brats and too few adults on deck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Yes, my post was patronizing, but the implication that Obama&#39;s supporters are Confederates deserve it&#8221;</p>
<p>Deserve it?  Is that the question &#8211; to settle scores.?</p>
<p>And then we blame Congress for not being able to work togethr ot get anything done.   <br />If that&#39;s the atitude, then the country really is stuck on stupid.-    spoiled brats fighting each other on deck while the boat sinks.</p>
<p>There are too many brats and too few adults on deck.</p>
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		<title>By: janinedm</title>
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		<dc:creator>janinedm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 04:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes. Her Iraq vote made no difference to young progressives like me who took to the streets in New York in 2003. We all simply hate, hate, hate women. Yes, my post was patronizing, but the implication that Obama&#039;s supporters are Confederates deserve it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes. Her Iraq vote made no difference to young progressives like me who took to the streets in New York in 2003. We all simply hate, hate, hate women. Yes, my post was patronizing, but the implication that Obama&#39;s supporters are Confederates deserve it.</p>
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		<title>By: vwcat</title>
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		<dc:creator>vwcat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 04:31:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tend to agree that many of these hard core supporters are supporting Hillary as a name and an idea and do not care about policy or even if the candidate supporters certain things.&lt;br&gt;It&#039;s a cult of personality.&lt;br&gt;But, there will be alot to answer for if Obama loses due to these selfish and self absorbed people.&lt;br&gt;And Hillary will be made to pay the price.&lt;br&gt;On the other hand there is alot of anger in the Obama camp.  His supporters feel resentful because this woman kept saying how Obama was too much a rookie to be able to manage anything and yet, she was the one who mismanged her money and spent herself into millions in debt and then, the Obama people are expect to clean up her mess.&lt;br&gt;Not only that but, many resent the attention given to the dead ender Hillbots and giving them legitimacy which just spurs on their insane logic and hate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tend to agree that many of these hard core supporters are supporting Hillary as a name and an idea and do not care about policy or even if the candidate supporters certain things.<br />It&#39;s a cult of personality.<br />But, there will be alot to answer for if Obama loses due to these selfish and self absorbed people.<br />And Hillary will be made to pay the price.<br />On the other hand there is alot of anger in the Obama camp.  His supporters feel resentful because this woman kept saying how Obama was too much a rookie to be able to manage anything and yet, she was the one who mismanged her money and spent herself into millions in debt and then, the Obama people are expect to clean up her mess.<br />Not only that but, many resent the attention given to the dead ender Hillbots and giving them legitimacy which just spurs on their insane logic and hate.</p>
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		<title>By: Silhouette</title>
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		<dc:creator>Silhouette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 00:58:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No!  It&#039;s all about silly women gripped by hormonal anger.  They need to take their estrogen, eat some chocolate and maybe go see a good chick flick, cry and wake up to see the wisdom in the democratic party picking Obama as it&#039;s CEO.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Well, it&#039;s either that or women and men having legitimate anger over seeing a clearly less qualified man be fingered to beat out a clearly more qualified woman for one of the most important positions in the nation this time around: democratic nominee.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The glass ceiling is alive and well.  The irony of hearing Obama talk about how all little girls can now see just how far they can go...poor choice of words there friend, when it&#039;s evident to everyone that you are less qualified and rose above a more qualified woman.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The real message to little girls, big girls, young and old women, and all the young boys who aren&#039;t quite indoctrinated into chauvanism yet is: &quot;don&#039;t even bother because as qualified as a woman is, they will always be beat out by a less qualified man and his confederate patronizing supporters.  Even when the stakes are as high as they could possibly be, she will still be passed over for a less qualified man.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yes, what a milestone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No!  It&#39;s all about silly women gripped by hormonal anger.  They need to take their estrogen, eat some chocolate and maybe go see a good chick flick, cry and wake up to see the wisdom in the democratic party picking Obama as it&#39;s CEO.</p>
<p>Well, it&#39;s either that or women and men having legitimate anger over seeing a clearly less qualified man be fingered to beat out a clearly more qualified woman for one of the most important positions in the nation this time around: democratic nominee.</p>
<p>The glass ceiling is alive and well.  The irony of hearing Obama talk about how all little girls can now see just how far they can go&#8230;poor choice of words there friend, when it&#39;s evident to everyone that you are less qualified and rose above a more qualified woman.  </p>
<p>The real message to little girls, big girls, young and old women, and all the young boys who aren&#39;t quite indoctrinated into chauvanism yet is: &#8220;don&#39;t even bother because as qualified as a woman is, they will always be beat out by a less qualified man and his confederate patronizing supporters.  Even when the stakes are as high as they could possibly be, she will still be passed over for a less qualified man.</p>
<p>Yes, what a milestone.</p>
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		<title>By: runasim</title>
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		<dc:creator>runasim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 23:25:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After spending some time reading the domments to pro-Hillary blogs, not just the blogs themselves, I think there is a lot going on besides just anger because of the primary loss.&lt;br&gt;For example, a number of the still angy are showing the same distrust due to Obama&#039;s being &#039;different&#039;  as was shown in many parts of the country.  &lt;br&gt;Some want to bomb Iran.  &lt;br&gt;Many  &#039;progressives&#039; harbor the illusion that Hillary would be more pro-activer on their issues, whereas her voting record is far more conservative than Obama&#039;s.in this area.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As is true in any election, there has been a lot of baseless projection going on - imagining that one candidate or the other would champion their own wish-fulfillment list, unedited.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The hawkish and those uncomfortable with Obama&#039;s &#039;difference&#039; will probably vote for McCain.&lt;br&gt;The rest might just cut off their noses to spite their faces.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Some might actually rediscover what the election is all about.&lt;br&gt;Who knows what people are capable of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After spending some time reading the domments to pro-Hillary blogs, not just the blogs themselves, I think there is a lot going on besides just anger because of the primary loss.<br />For example, a number of the still angy are showing the same distrust due to Obama&#39;s being &#39;different&#39;  as was shown in many parts of the country.  <br />Some want to bomb Iran.  <br />Many  &#39;progressives&#39; harbor the illusion that Hillary would be more pro-activer on their issues, whereas her voting record is far more conservative than Obama&#39;s.in this area.  </p>
<p>As is true in any election, there has been a lot of baseless projection going on &#8211; imagining that one candidate or the other would champion their own wish-fulfillment list, unedited.</p>
<p>The hawkish and those uncomfortable with Obama&#39;s &#39;difference&#39; will probably vote for McCain.<br />The rest might just cut off their noses to spite their faces.</p>
<p>Some might actually rediscover what the election is all about.<br />Who knows what people are capable of.</p>
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		<title>By: Davebo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Davebo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 22:57:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Did you find it interesting that not one of the alleged disgruntled Clinton supporters spoke on the record, yet the supporters who believed Obama was able to reach them were perfectly happy to be named in the report?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe,</p>
<p>Did you find it interesting that not one of the alleged disgruntled Clinton supporters spoke on the record, yet the supporters who believed Obama was able to reach them were perfectly happy to be named in the report?</p>
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