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Obama Moves To Center, McCain To The Right?

Are we seeing so many political positioning moves on the part of Democratic Senator Barack Obama and Republican Senator John McCain that the two of them could open up a special road show of “Riverdance?” NBC’s Chuck Todd, Mark Murray, and Domenico Montanaro note the fancy footwork:

But what we find fascinating is that as Obama has moved to the center on some thorny subjects, McCain keeps on making overtures to the right. At his meeting yesterday with social conservatives in Ohio, according to participants, McCain said that he was open to learning more about their opposition to embryonic stem cell research (which he supports), that he would talk more openly about his opposition to gay marriage, and that he would listen seriously to their requests that he choose an anti-abortion running mate (bad news for Tom Ridge?). In modern politics, the formula has always been the same: You curry favor with your base in the primaries and then you tack to the center in the general election. McCain isn’t necessarily following this path. Then again, McCain didn’t win his nomination by running to the right, either. Nothing he’s done this campaign year has been conventional.

And that has been the case this year. Repeatedly, the mainstream and new media have been wrong about what is “going” to happen or even “very likely” to happen — and not just in the case of McCain.

This includes all the speculation about Senator Hillary Clinton returning to a Senate where Democrats might be lukewarm to her. She was reportedly greeted by interns, Democrats and Republicans like a political rock star.

But what do these shifts by the two presumptive party nominees say about what’s going on? This:

1. Obama clearly figures that he can move to the right without losing the votes of progressives, who are among the Big Broom voters who want to sweep the present crew out of office as the top priority. He hopes to reassure defecting Republicans and independent voters and non-progressive Democrats.

2. Obama isn’t too worried about the “threat” posed by I’m-running-everytime Ralph Nader, who recently suggested that Obama wasn’t talking black enough. Nader’s the guy who in 2000 argued that it didn’t matter which party won since there was no difference between them. Perhaps (for good reason) Obama’s polls show Nader’s potential impact is minuscule.

3. McCain feels he has enough credit in the bank with independent swing voters and moderates so he doesn’t have to worry about losing their support if he edges over to the right. This gets down to the question about who is the “real” McCain and so far these voters believe the 2000 version of McCain was real and this one is doing what he has to do to get elected.

4. McCain’s internal numbers likely indicate he has a lingering problem with his party’s base and his problem with conservatives may be worse than Obama’s problem with Hillary Clinton supporters.

5. McCain could be trying to shore up support leaks since Libertarian Presidential candidate Bob Barr could well siphon-off needed votes.

As the NBC crew notes, McCain’s move is unusual for an election year. But neither he nor Obama got where they were by stopping doing what they were doing to listen to the talking heads, new media, old media, but by doing it their way. And that’s unlikely to change. So take all predictions and analysis (including this one) with a grain of salt..

  • Marlowecan
    It is interesting, but not surprising, that NBC is trying to center Obama...and toss McCain out on the Right.

    In order to do this NBC had to overlook the fact that McCain has recently met . . . and will continue to meet towards November. . . the leadership of the gay Log Cabin Republicans. This marks a major shift from Bush's approach.

    I swear . . . McCain could ride in Gay Pride Parades this summer across America with pink tassles on his nipples.... announce his sudden defection to the pro-abortion rights, pro- gay marriage clique . . . and NBC/CBS/NYT would continue to label him as being on the "Far Right" and espousing "Religious Conservative" and "Extremist" positions .... unlike the Centrist Obama.
  • Silhouette
    "This includes all the speculation about Senator Hillary Clinton returning to a Senate where Democrats might be lukewarm to her. She was reportedly greeted by interns, Democrats and Republicans like a political rock star."

    ******

    Which proves my assertion that in spite of rigged polls and continuing BigMedia promotion of the risky Obama as viable in these risky times, Hillary Clinton's popularity will rise to superhero status.

    When these two jokers are done exposing themselves as the risky, slimey, waffling slicks that they are by November, the "Write-In Hillary" phenomenon in both the democrat and republican camps will be a force to be reckoned with.

    We don't care what Hillary urges us to do "on the record". We're just a little too seasoned and wise to all that. :)

    And we're not just women. Women, men, whites, black, young old are all singing the praises of our not-quite fallen hero Hillary Clinton.

    One crucial factor that will turn the tide is the economy. Neither of these two riverdancing men will qualify to earn voter confidence in this area. The name "Clinton" is synonymous with "the period in which our nation's economy was the strongest it's ever been." If you don't think this is a potent threat to both the McCain and Obama campaigns, think again.. there's one thing that will unify everyone and that is poverty..
  • Mike_P
    Obama is leading, despite the pundits' oft repeated "concerns" and the howls of the squeaky wheel "Give Me Hillary or Give Me Death" supporters, a largely united, even enthusiastic party. He can afford to *carefully* move to the center. (I think he stumbled badly on FISA, however.) McCain on the other hand is having to deal with a very reticent base, even while barely holding his own among independents. Republican strategy has for decades been anchored on getting out the base's vote. The candidates' actions reflect those realities, increasingly confirmed in polls.
  • runasim
    I think Obama is running to exactly where he was all along. What else does 'no more red state or blue state' mean? Were progressives really so naive as to believe that blue state would somehow convert red state to blue-ism?
    For that matter, I don't see on what basis they ever thought that 'blue' is necessarily their version of blue. Looking,even briefly, at the Dem factions should open their eyes to real life one of these days., and it's too bad for everyone that they are so loath to do so.

    It's much harder to read McCain, because instead of charting a clear course, he eems to be zigging and zagging all over the place. I think it's impossible to predict what his promise to 'listen' to any one group means. He listened to Hagee also, but only briefly. Let's see what he actually promises as pokicy, before jumping to conclusions.
  • When these two jokers are done exposing themselves as the risky, slimey, waffling slicks that they are by November, the "Write-In Hillary" phenomenon in both the democrat and republican camps will be a force to be reckoned with.

    Yes. The desire to write in another waffling slick will overcome us all!

    The name "Clinton" is synonymous with "the period in which our nation's economy was the strongest it's ever been."

    If we grant that President Clinton was responsible for the economy (which is untrue) then we also have to him credit for creating the tremendous bubble that burst shortly after he left office.

    And what does any of that have to do with Hillary Clinton anyways?
  • runasim
    Chris,
    re: "And what does any of that have to do with Hillary Clinton anyways"

    It stopped being about Hillary some time ago. It's about me, me, me, even if it actually hurts Hillary's standing and legacy. With friends like these, Hillary needs no enemies.
    .
  • runasim
    Marlowecan,

    You seem to be still enthralled by the v'ast liberal media; meme,,,,.
    ,,,in spite of the fact that Chris Matthews referreed to Obama as Osama recently-twice.. Selective reading of tea leaves seems to be at work;

    I notice that corporate CEO's are once again protecting their business interests (McCain) by selective coverage. McCain's every accusation is aired unchallenged, while Obama's rebuttals are scrutinized down to the last comma.

    Have you noticed that news from Iraq has disappeared, especially bad news?
    We hear constant reports about progress, but no report at all about lack of progress. There is nothing about the failure of reconstruction. Mass killings are reported as if 50 dead has no signifiacance.
    Maliki's (+US) military actions in Basra were a 'success;, but there is no reporting about the Mahdi Army's simply melting away-to do what?
    The propogation of Pentagon propoganda helps which candidate?

    I'm not disputing the fall in violence btw, but the reporting is shallow and sparse with no credible in-depth background,
  • ljeff18
    Seems like the Republicans just don't get that their problems are much bigger than Bush. When he exits, they won't be able to rebound without getting rid of all the other horrible leaders who have been around since the beginning of the mess and done nothing to fix the problems.

    So... the democrats problems of unity (created in the last few months) are nothing compared to the republicans long standing issues within the party.

    Check out this article--- Bye Bye Boehner
    http://www.greenfaucet.com/hanlons-pub/bye-bye-...
    to see why they need a major overhaul
  • DLS
    "NBC/CBS/NYT would continue to label him as being on the 'Far Right' and espousing 'Religious Conservative' and 'Extremist' positions .... unlike the Centrist Obama"

    You left out many on The ["]Moderate["] Voice.

    All that's missing is the Final Stretch to describe Joe Lieberman in such terms.
  • runasim
    "NBC/CBS/NYT would continue to label him as being on the 'Far Right' and espousing 'Religious Conservative' and 'Extremist' positions .... unlike the Centrist Obama"
    You left out many on The ["]Moderate["] Voice"
    ----------------------------------------------
    How about providing some examples to show, at least, a minimum of a basis for the accusation?

    It might be true on issues like a hawkish pro-war forwign policy, but no post has failed to mention McCain's 'maverick' history.
    Not throwing kisses at McCain does not amount to painting him as anyhign in particualr.. Neither does not wanting ot vote for him,

    Is it possible to accept a difference of opinion wihtout lobbing illusory accusations?
    Or is launching baseless attacks an end in itself?
  • DLS
    "How about providing some examples to show, at least, a minimum of a basis for the accusation?"

    None are needed, one of many is particularly amusing: "DLS, you are far right." [sic]
  • runasim
    DLS,
    Your example ("DLS, you are far right." [sic]) quotes a comment, not a post.

    Moreover, it pertains to you, not McCain, , who (unlike you) is one of two subjects under discussion,, the other being Obama.

    As for commenters, how many have followed your example of insulting characterizations of entire political blocs?
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