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	<title>Comments on: On the radio today, CERN LHC debate &amp; Liz Mair of RNC</title>
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		<title>By: thegoodguynet</title>
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		<dc:creator>thegoodguynet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 17:27:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The scientists involved in the LHC experiment have admitted to not knowing what the results will be - whether they will find the Higgs bosons that they are looking for.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Correct me if I&#039;m wrong - RESULTS is only half the synonym of the word OUTCOME. The other half is CONSEQUENCES.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If they are unsure of the results, how can they claim anything regarding consequences.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The truth is--  they don&#039;t know what the OUTCOME will be - the results and CONSEQUENCES.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The truth is - scientific experiments can and have gone wrong in the past.  That is why we use guinea pigs.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But in the LHC experiment the guinea pig is not a lab mouse. It&#039;s the planet Earth.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Claiming that they can  &quot;control&quot; it is beyond comprehension to me - when they DON&#039;T KNOW THE OUTCOME.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;They say the ODDS are like winning the lotto. Well every week a lotto winner (sometimes &quot;winners&quot;) are announced.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And the &quot;odds&quot; can only be talked about if you base it on specific numerical permutations/and probabilities -- how can they when THEY DON&#039;T KNOW?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;World War I and World War II evidenced the human race&#039;s capacity in slipping into the rabbit hole of collective madness.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There may be no World War III, but the LHC experiment will do.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Remember lone and persecuted Galileo against ALL the other scientists/astronomers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The scientists involved in the LHC experiment have admitted to not knowing what the results will be &#8211; whether they will find the Higgs bosons that they are looking for.</p>
<p>Correct me if I&#39;m wrong &#8211; RESULTS is only half the synonym of the word OUTCOME. The other half is CONSEQUENCES.</p>
<p>If they are unsure of the results, how can they claim anything regarding consequences.</p>
<p>The truth is&#8211;  they don&#39;t know what the OUTCOME will be &#8211; the results and CONSEQUENCES.</p>
<p>The truth is &#8211; scientific experiments can and have gone wrong in the past.  That is why we use guinea pigs.</p>
<p>But in the LHC experiment the guinea pig is not a lab mouse. It&#39;s the planet Earth.</p>
<p>Claiming that they can  &#8220;control&#8221; it is beyond comprehension to me &#8211; when they DON&#39;T KNOW THE OUTCOME.</p>
<p>They say the ODDS are like winning the lotto. Well every week a lotto winner (sometimes &#8220;winners&#8221;) are announced.</p>
<p>And the &#8220;odds&#8221; can only be talked about if you base it on specific numerical permutations/and probabilities &#8212; how can they when THEY DON&#39;T KNOW?</p>
<p>World War I and World War II evidenced the human race&#39;s capacity in slipping into the rabbit hole of collective madness.</p>
<p>There may be no World War III, but the LHC experiment will do.</p>
<p>Remember lone and persecuted Galileo against ALL the other scientists/astronomers?</p>
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		<title>By: WXyzzzzz</title>
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		<dc:creator>WXyzzzzz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 17:39:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CERN judging their own LHC is safe is like a drunk deciding he&#039;s all right to drive... with 6,700,000,000 passengers.&lt;br&gt;Who cares about a Higgs Boson particle or some quark gluon soup except a handful of frustrated geeks who have run out of ideas and have to experiment with forces they don&#039;t even understand. These freaking physicists waste money and energy time and time again building atom smasher after atom smasher and end up with more questions, not answers. Now they&#039;ve built one so powerful they say themselves it will create mini black holes at the rate of one per second! Which would change your life more; knowing they found some particle or getting crushed and sucked into a black hole along with everyone and every thing you ever cared about?&lt;br&gt;That sound like a good risk vs. benefit to you?!? Just because you can&#039;t wrap your mind around it does not mean it can&#039;t happen.&lt;br&gt;See for yourself;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.risk-evaluation-forum.org/anon1.htm&quot;&gt;http://www.risk-evaluation-forum.org/anon1.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.LHCDefense.org/&quot;&gt;http://www.LHCDefense.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.LHCFacts.org&quot;&gt;http://www.LHCFacts.org&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.SaneScience.org/&quot;&gt;http://www.SaneScience.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;Popular Mechanics - &quot;World&#039;s Biggest Science Project Aims to Unlock &#039;God Particle&#039;&quot; - &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/extreme_machines/4216588.html%22&quot;&gt;http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/extreme...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CERN judging their own LHC is safe is like a drunk deciding he&#39;s all right to drive&#8230; with 6,700,000,000 passengers.<br />Who cares about a Higgs Boson particle or some quark gluon soup except a handful of frustrated geeks who have run out of ideas and have to experiment with forces they don&#39;t even understand. These freaking physicists waste money and energy time and time again building atom smasher after atom smasher and end up with more questions, not answers. Now they&#39;ve built one so powerful they say themselves it will create mini black holes at the rate of one per second! Which would change your life more; knowing they found some particle or getting crushed and sucked into a black hole along with everyone and every thing you ever cared about?<br />That sound like a good risk vs. benefit to you?!? Just because you can&#39;t wrap your mind around it does not mean it can&#39;t happen.<br />See for yourself;<br /><a href="http://www.risk-evaluation-forum.org/anon1.htm">http://www.risk-evaluation-forum.org/anon1.htm</a><br /><a href="http://www.LHCDefense.org/">http://www.LHCDefense.org/</a><br /><a href="http://www.LHCFacts.org">http://www.LHCFacts.org</a><br /><a href="http://www.SaneScience.org/">http://www.SaneScience.org/</a><br />Popular Mechanics &#8211; &#8220;World&#39;s Biggest Science Project Aims to Unlock &#39;God Particle&#39;&#8221; &#8211; <a href="http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/extreme_machines/4216588.html%22"></a><a href="http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/extreme.." rel="nofollow">http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/extreme..</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Jazz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jazz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:50:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, you schedule the guests when you can get them. :-)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;We go to radio with the guests we have, not the guests we might wish we have.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;- Rumsfeld</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, you schedule the guests when you can get them. <img src='http://themoderatevoice.com/wordpress-engine/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>&#8220;We go to radio with the guests we have, not the guests we might wish we have.&#8221;</p>
<p>- Rumsfeld</p>
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		<title>By: mikkel</title>
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		<dc:creator>mikkel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:31:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is a hilarious juxtaposition of interviews. I&#039;m more worried about the campaign season creating a black hole than CERN.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is a hilarious juxtaposition of interviews. I&#39;m more worried about the campaign season creating a black hole than CERN.</p>
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