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		<title>By: ginandtacos.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; 2008 CotY BRONZE MEDAL: BILL CLINTON</title>
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		<dc:creator>ginandtacos.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; 2008 CotY BRONZE MEDAL: BILL CLINTON</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 07:02:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] but it&#8217;s what we had to work with. He could be cowed into making a press release but a real, honest-to-god public endorsement was months away. While stingy with his praise for Obama, he did find the time to give a speech [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] but it&#8217;s what we had to work with. He could be cowed into making a press release but a real, honest-to-god public endorsement was months away. While stingy with his praise for Obama, he did find the time to give a speech [...]</p>
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		<title>By: yael</title>
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		<dc:creator>yael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 03:21:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill Clinton would be a traitor to his party if he did support such a dangerous fraud.  He is one of the few in a position not to be strong armed.  I am impressed and proud of him.  A prince among thieves...  Lest we forget the Rules and Bylaws Committee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill Clinton would be a traitor to his party if he did support such a dangerous fraud.  He is one of the few in a position not to be strong armed.  I am impressed and proud of him.  A prince among thieves&#8230;  Lest we forget the Rules and Bylaws Committee.</p>
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		<title>By: TeresaInSnow2</title>
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		<dc:creator>TeresaInSnow2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 00:34:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, call Bill Clinton a racist then expect him to campaign for you.  And when he doesn&#039;t?  He&#039;s a loose canon.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Do you suppose it&#039;s because no matter what he says or does he can&#039;t win?  And maybe if he can&#039;t win, no matter what, he might as well do what he wants to do?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, call Bill Clinton a racist then expect him to campaign for you.  And when he doesn&#39;t?  He&#39;s a loose canon.</p>
<p>Do you suppose it&#39;s because no matter what he says or does he can&#39;t win?  And maybe if he can&#39;t win, no matter what, he might as well do what he wants to do?</p>
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		<title>By: lindac</title>
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		<dc:creator>lindac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 21:35:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with kd123.  Obama set out to destroy Bill Clinton&#039;s legacy since Obama had nothing to offer himself.  That campaign tactic more than just upset a few long time democrats. Obama also attempted to diminish Hillary Clinton&#039;s contributions as representing our country as &quot;simply having tea&quot;  trumpeting  about his own foreign policy expertise while attending grade school in Indonesia..Talk about bamboozled.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with kd123.  Obama set out to destroy Bill Clinton&#39;s legacy since Obama had nothing to offer himself.  That campaign tactic more than just upset a few long time democrats. Obama also attempted to diminish Hillary Clinton&#39;s contributions as representing our country as &#8220;simply having tea&#8221;  trumpeting  about his own foreign policy expertise while attending grade school in Indonesia..Talk about bamboozled.</p>
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		<title>By: kd1234</title>
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		<dc:creator>kd1234</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 05:56:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wouldn&#039;t endorse Obama if I were him. Obama&#039;s entire candidacy was centered around destryoing Bill Clinton&#039;s legacy and making the economically prosperous 90s out to be some sort of a failure. He should be begging for the President&#039;s FORGIVENESS!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#39;t endorse Obama if I were him. Obama&#39;s entire candidacy was centered around destryoing Bill Clinton&#39;s legacy and making the economically prosperous 90s out to be some sort of a failure. He should be begging for the President&#39;s FORGIVENESS!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: mlhradio</title>
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		<dc:creator>mlhradio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 04:04:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And the self-diminishment of Bill Clinton continues.  Sigh.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think one of the biggest surprises (for me) out of this election is how Bill Clinton has managed to destroy his own reputation so thoroughly.  If someone a year ago has said that Bill Clinton would be transformed from a trusted Democratic leader into a national laughingstock, I wouldn&#039;t have believe them in a million years.  Showing once again reality is far stranger than fiction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And the self-diminishment of Bill Clinton continues.  Sigh.</p>
<p>I think one of the biggest surprises (for me) out of this election is how Bill Clinton has managed to destroy his own reputation so thoroughly.  If someone a year ago has said that Bill Clinton would be transformed from a trusted Democratic leader into a national laughingstock, I wouldn&#39;t have believe them in a million years.  Showing once again reality is far stranger than fiction.</p>
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		<title>By: runasim</title>
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		<dc:creator>runasim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 02:29:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe,&lt;br&gt;Your recitation of arbitrarily selected &#039;facts&#039; is an exercise in  retracing the same picture drawn  by the MSM and blogs months ago. The result is that he has been painted into a corner where he can do no right.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You (the collective you)  create the charaters, assign roles, paint the scenery and, oh yes, you write the play.  Then you shut the door on any re-writes.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I could, with the same characters, write a very different play.  (Of course, you would never read it.) I can tell you this, though, in my play, the characters would be human beings, with flaws and talents, good impulses and bad, and they would be acting on a stage they can&#039;t control, because other actors and events engineered by others also have roles..&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The cardboard one-dimensonal characters we are offered seriously distort individuals, politics and life in general by the simple mechanism of lowering observatons and discourse to the lowest possible intellectual bar.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Why there exists the presumption that people can&#039;t, or shouldn&#039;t ,handle complexity and , contradiction, good mixed with bad, I&#039;ve never understood.  I only know that it makes us all dumber and more judgmental about what we don&#039;t fully understand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe,<br />Your recitation of arbitrarily selected &#39;facts&#39; is an exercise in  retracing the same picture drawn  by the MSM and blogs months ago. The result is that he has been painted into a corner where he can do no right.</p>
<p>You (the collective you)  create the charaters, assign roles, paint the scenery and, oh yes, you write the play.  Then you shut the door on any re-writes.</p>
<p>I could, with the same characters, write a very different play.  (Of course, you would never read it.) I can tell you this, though, in my play, the characters would be human beings, with flaws and talents, good impulses and bad, and they would be acting on a stage they can&#39;t control, because other actors and events engineered by others also have roles..</p>
<p>The cardboard one-dimensonal characters we are offered seriously distort individuals, politics and life in general by the simple mechanism of lowering observatons and discourse to the lowest possible intellectual bar.</p>
<p>Why there exists the presumption that people can&#39;t, or shouldn&#39;t ,handle complexity and , contradiction, good mixed with bad, I&#39;ve never understood.  I only know that it makes us all dumber and more judgmental about what we don&#39;t fully understand.</p>
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		<title>By: Acaha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Acaha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 01:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think there is no way Bill Clinton can win in this situation.  You seem to be conveniently forgetting that Senator Obama&#039;s campaign painted Bill Clinton as a racist.  Obama denigrated and attempted to diminish the accomplishments of The Clinton administration for his own ends.  Not to mention that his wife is clearly the stronger candidate, winning all the big states save Illinois, all the battleground states and the majority of the Democratic base, and has the electoral map in her pocket -- yet she was denied the nod by Super Delegates.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Senator Obama&#039;s tactics towards the Clintons go beyond mere politics -- this was character assassination.  Is anyone really going to say with a straight face that one of the most successful Presidents we have ever had, after he and his wife were treated like this, should then be jumping up and down for joy to campaign for this man?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there is no way Bill Clinton can win in this situation.  You seem to be conveniently forgetting that Senator Obama&#39;s campaign painted Bill Clinton as a racist.  Obama denigrated and attempted to diminish the accomplishments of The Clinton administration for his own ends.  Not to mention that his wife is clearly the stronger candidate, winning all the big states save Illinois, all the battleground states and the majority of the Democratic base, and has the electoral map in her pocket &#8212; yet she was denied the nod by Super Delegates.</p>
<p>Senator Obama&#39;s tactics towards the Clintons go beyond mere politics &#8212; this was character assassination.  Is anyone really going to say with a straight face that one of the most successful Presidents we have ever had, after he and his wife were treated like this, should then be jumping up and down for joy to campaign for this man?</p>
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		<title>By: vwcat</title>
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		<dc:creator>vwcat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 01:41:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill Clinton is proving that yet again he is so self obsessed he thinks everything is about him.&lt;br&gt;What a baby.&lt;br&gt;not just because Obama beat him and his wife but, because Obama took the party away from the Clintons after 20 years and now controls it.  So, big baby Bill has to pout.&lt;br&gt;Concidering how Bill has proven to have absolutely no coattails, I doubt many will worry if he doesn&#039;t get out on the trail.  Besides, from his performance this past year, this lose cannon does not need to be stumping for Obama.&lt;br&gt;It is time for people to stop worrying about the Clintons.  their era is over and it&#039;s now a new time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill Clinton is proving that yet again he is so self obsessed he thinks everything is about him.<br />What a baby.<br />not just because Obama beat him and his wife but, because Obama took the party away from the Clintons after 20 years and now controls it.  So, big baby Bill has to pout.<br />Concidering how Bill has proven to have absolutely no coattails, I doubt many will worry if he doesn&#39;t get out on the trail.  Besides, from his performance this past year, this lose cannon does not need to be stumping for Obama.<br />It is time for people to stop worrying about the Clintons.  their era is over and it&#39;s now a new time.</p>
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		<title>By: joegandelman</title>
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		<dc:creator>joegandelman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 01:31:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RATS! I forgot to stick in &quot;red-faced.&quot; In fact, this is a very legitimate point to raise. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You will be hard pressed to find in recent American history (like, probably the past 100 years) a former President who has descended to the level of political operative working against a candidate in a primary season as Bill Clinton. That is a fact. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It is also a fact that once a party&#039;s presumptive nominee is established, the party bigwigs rally around him. Perhaps Bill Clinton wanted to see Al Gore do the endorsement first. His behavior is NOT the polished, slick political behavior he displayed in the 1990s. The name &quot;Slick Willy&quot; was used in a disparaging way by his enemies in the 90s, but in fact it was a compliment. He had proven himself to be politically nimble -- perhaps the best political talent at that point in his generation. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Most but not all pundits say he WAS detrimental to her campaign and some polls suggested as such. There is a difference between not campaigning for Obama and passing up a chance to utter a few words to reporters to at least go through the motion of party unity. If he went out there and campaigned like the Bill Clinton of old he wouldn&#039;t have the same image problems. But you can just see it in the Reuters piece: he comes across as still angry and still &quot;bitter&quot; and not thinking of the party. It is truly had to believe this is the person who was once hailed for having so many well-honed political skills. I and others WILL add red-faced because so many news accounts talk about him being-red faced when he&#039;s angry -- which has been quite frequently in recent months..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RATS! I forgot to stick in &#8220;red-faced.&#8221; In fact, this is a very legitimate point to raise. </p>
<p>You will be hard pressed to find in recent American history (like, probably the past 100 years) a former President who has descended to the level of political operative working against a candidate in a primary season as Bill Clinton. That is a fact. </p>
<p>It is also a fact that once a party&#39;s presumptive nominee is established, the party bigwigs rally around him. Perhaps Bill Clinton wanted to see Al Gore do the endorsement first. His behavior is NOT the polished, slick political behavior he displayed in the 1990s. The name &#8220;Slick Willy&#8221; was used in a disparaging way by his enemies in the 90s, but in fact it was a compliment. He had proven himself to be politically nimble &#8212; perhaps the best political talent at that point in his generation. </p>
<p>Most but not all pundits say he WAS detrimental to her campaign and some polls suggested as such. There is a difference between not campaigning for Obama and passing up a chance to utter a few words to reporters to at least go through the motion of party unity. If he went out there and campaigned like the Bill Clinton of old he wouldn&#39;t have the same image problems. But you can just see it in the Reuters piece: he comes across as still angry and still &#8220;bitter&#8221; and not thinking of the party. It is truly had to believe this is the person who was once hailed for having so many well-honed political skills. I and others WILL add red-faced because so many news accounts talk about him being-red faced when he&#39;s angry &#8212; which has been quite frequently in recent months..</p>
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		<title>By: runasim</title>
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		<dc:creator>runasim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 01:18:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the commentary  about  Bill Clinton is more high-school level, or grade school level, rather,  than anything he does or says. &lt;br&gt;I&#039;m shocked that &#039;red-faced&#039; wasn&#039;t squeezed into the narrative somehow..&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Consider that he was painted as being detrimental to Hillary&#039;s campaign.&lt;br&gt;Why is it so outrageous that he would be hesitant about further involvement  in the election campaign?  &lt;br&gt;Consider, that if he had said otherwise, the same people pouncing on him now, would be equally ready to pounce on him if he did the opposite: &quot;Oh, no, Bill is going to wreck Obama&#039;s campaign!&quot;.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Did I say grade school?  Make that kindergarden playground level.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the commentary  about  Bill Clinton is more high-school level, or grade school level, rather,  than anything he does or says. <br />I&#39;m shocked that &#39;red-faced&#39; wasn&#39;t squeezed into the narrative somehow..</p>
<p>Consider that he was painted as being detrimental to Hillary&#39;s campaign.<br />Why is it so outrageous that he would be hesitant about further involvement  in the election campaign?  <br />Consider, that if he had said otherwise, the same people pouncing on him now, would be equally ready to pounce on him if he did the opposite: &#8220;Oh, no, Bill is going to wreck Obama&#39;s campaign!&#8221;.</p>
<p>Did I say grade school?  Make that kindergarden playground level.</p>
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		<title>By: Jazz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jazz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 00:12:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL @ T_Steel! &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Good one!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL @ T_Steel! </p>
<p>Good one!</p>
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		<title>By: T_Steel</title>
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		<dc:creator>T_Steel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 00:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As Charlie Brown of the Peanuts Gang says:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;i&gt;My stomach hurts...&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This is like high school all over again.  Yuck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As Charlie Brown of the Peanuts Gang says:</p>
<p><i>My stomach hurts&#8230;</i></p>
<p>This is like high school all over again.  Yuck!</p>
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		<title>By: StockBoySF</title>
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		<dc:creator>StockBoySF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 23:52:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hillary and Bill.  What a pair- good cop and bad cop.</description>
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