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		<title>By: Jim_Satterfield</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/20507/some-thoughts-on-gas-prices/comment-page-1/#comment-120146</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim_Satterfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 20:26:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can&#039;t simply quit driving to work. Given that, any ameliorative measures are also very difficult. With the real estate and credit crunches relocating to live closer to work is very difficult. Those factors also affect everything else. Most American cities just don&#039;t have enough mass transit to cope. Most of them that have mass transit are reporting large increases in its usage but they just don&#039;t have the funds now to expand to meet demand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can&#39;t simply quit driving to work. Given that, any ameliorative measures are also very difficult. With the real estate and credit crunches relocating to live closer to work is very difficult. Those factors also affect everything else. Most American cities just don&#39;t have enough mass transit to cope. Most of them that have mass transit are reporting large increases in its usage but they just don&#39;t have the funds now to expand to meet demand.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim_Satterfield</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim_Satterfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 20:26:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can&#039;t simply quit driving to work. Given that, any ameliorative measures are also very difficult. With the real estate and credit crunches relocating to live closer to work is very difficult. Those factors also affect everything else. Most American cities just don&#039;t have enough mass transit to cope. Most of them that have mass transit are reporting large increases in its usage but they just don&#039;t have the funds now to expand to meet demand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can&#39;t simply quit driving to work. Given that, any ameliorative measures are also very difficult. With the real estate and credit crunches relocating to live closer to work is very difficult. Those factors also affect everything else. Most American cities just don&#39;t have enough mass transit to cope. Most of them that have mass transit are reporting large increases in its usage but they just don&#39;t have the funds now to expand to meet demand.</p>
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		<title>By: runasim</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/20507/some-thoughts-on-gas-prices/comment-page-1/#comment-120143</link>
		<dc:creator>runasim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 19:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GreenDreams said:&lt;br&gt; Well, look at the autobahn. With gas prices twice ours, Europeans still drive. Fast.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;They also drive smaller and more fuel efficient cars, walk and bicycle more,and plan their car trips more to avoid  driving  to buy  only a quart of milk.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;They eat out less frequently and cook their own meals more frequently.&lt;br&gt;They tend their own gardens more.  &lt;br&gt;To enjoy their enviable vacations, they&#039;re  more careful with money year round.  They bring their own sandwiches on train and car  trips instead of buying more expensdive meals in depots or at road stop cafes.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In general, they prioritize better and smarter.&lt;br&gt;They plan for and budget for those autobahn driving experiences.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GreenDreams said:<br /> Well, look at the autobahn. With gas prices twice ours, Europeans still drive. Fast.</p>
<p>They also drive smaller and more fuel efficient cars, walk and bicycle more,and plan their car trips more to avoid  driving  to buy  only a quart of milk.</p>
<p>They eat out less frequently and cook their own meals more frequently.<br />They tend their own gardens more.  <br />To enjoy their enviable vacations, they&#39;re  more careful with money year round.  They bring their own sandwiches on train and car  trips instead of buying more expensdive meals in depots or at road stop cafes.</p>
<p>In general, they prioritize better and smarter.<br />They plan for and budget for those autobahn driving experiences.</p>
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		<title>By: runasim</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/20507/some-thoughts-on-gas-prices/comment-page-1/#comment-120145</link>
		<dc:creator>runasim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 19:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GreenDreams said:&lt;br&gt; Well, look at the autobahn. With gas prices twice ours, Europeans still drive. Fast.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;They also drive smaller and more fuel efficient cars, walk and bicycle more,and plan their car trips more to avoid  driving  to buy  only a quart of milk.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;They eat out less frequently and cook their own meals more frequently.&lt;br&gt;They tend their own gardens more.  &lt;br&gt;To enjoy their enviable vacations, they&#039;re  more careful with money year round.  They bring their own sandwiches on train and car  trips instead of buying more expensdive meals in depots or at road stop cafes.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In general, they prioritize better and smarter.&lt;br&gt;They plan for and budget for those autobahn driving experiences.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GreenDreams said:<br /> Well, look at the autobahn. With gas prices twice ours, Europeans still drive. Fast.</p>
<p>They also drive smaller and more fuel efficient cars, walk and bicycle more,and plan their car trips more to avoid  driving  to buy  only a quart of milk.</p>
<p>They eat out less frequently and cook their own meals more frequently.<br />They tend their own gardens more.  <br />To enjoy their enviable vacations, they&#39;re  more careful with money year round.  They bring their own sandwiches on train and car  trips instead of buying more expensdive meals in depots or at road stop cafes.</p>
<p>In general, they prioritize better and smarter.<br />They plan for and budget for those autobahn driving experiences.</p>
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		<title>By: GreenDreams</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/20507/some-thoughts-on-gas-prices/comment-page-1/#comment-120140</link>
		<dc:creator>GreenDreams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 18:57:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, look at the autobahn. With gas prices twice ours, Europeans still drive. Fast.</description>
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		<title>By: GreenDreams</title>
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		<dc:creator>GreenDreams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 18:57:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, look at the autobahn. With gas prices twice ours, Europeans still drive. Fast.</description>
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		<title>By: Patrick E</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/20507/some-thoughts-on-gas-prices/comment-page-1/#comment-120137</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 18:00:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You make a good point DLS, while gas prices are clearly a problem for most of us, the fact is we are not to the point where people can&#039;t drive to the grocery store because of gas costs, though I do think people are modifying their driving habits somewhat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You make a good point DLS, while gas prices are clearly a problem for most of us, the fact is we are not to the point where people can&#39;t drive to the grocery store because of gas costs, though I do think people are modifying their driving habits somewhat.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick E</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 18:00:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You make a good point DLS, while gas prices are clearly a problem for most of us, the fact is we are not to the point where people can&#039;t drive to the grocery store because of gas costs, though I do think people are modifying their driving habits somewhat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You make a good point DLS, while gas prices are clearly a problem for most of us, the fact is we are not to the point where people can&#39;t drive to the grocery store because of gas costs, though I do think people are modifying their driving habits somewhat.</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/20507/some-thoughts-on-gas-prices/comment-page-1/#comment-120133</link>
		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 17:56:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;gas prices seem to be a focus for people while high prices/wasted money elsewhere seems to slip through the cracks&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And there&#039;s not a large constraint on ordinary, daily driving yet.  Traffic is still heavy here in Detroit metro and the fuel-wasting aggressive, poor driving habits engaged in by so many on the roads here have yet to end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;gas prices seem to be a focus for people while high prices/wasted money elsewhere seems to slip through the cracks&#8221;</p>
<p>And there&#39;s not a large constraint on ordinary, daily driving yet.  Traffic is still heavy here in Detroit metro and the fuel-wasting aggressive, poor driving habits engaged in by so many on the roads here have yet to end.</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/20507/some-thoughts-on-gas-prices/comment-page-1/#comment-120136</link>
		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 17:56:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;gas prices seem to be a focus for people while high prices/wasted money elsewhere seems to slip through the cracks&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And there&#039;s not a large constraint on ordinary, daily driving yet.  Traffic is still heavy here in Detroit metro and the fuel-wasting aggressive, poor driving habits engaged in by so many on the roads here have yet to end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;gas prices seem to be a focus for people while high prices/wasted money elsewhere seems to slip through the cracks&#8221;</p>
<p>And there&#39;s not a large constraint on ordinary, daily driving yet.  Traffic is still heavy here in Detroit metro and the fuel-wasting aggressive, poor driving habits engaged in by so many on the roads here have yet to end.</p>
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		<title>By: GreenDreams</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/20507/some-thoughts-on-gas-prices/comment-page-1/#comment-120131</link>
		<dc:creator>GreenDreams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 13:55:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great discussion. The sad truth is, we have been incredibly selfish and short-sighted. We used up the good times, and failed to heed numerous warnings. In fact, we ridiculed and demonized those who saw this coming. Even now, those who argue for serious changes are called &quot;Chicken Littles&quot;. Meanwhile, convinced it&#039;s &quot;morning in America&quot; we spent our savings, maxed out our credit cards, got second and third mortgages, bought big cars and acquired expensive habits. We were living large on our credit cards. We have been living large on our kids&#039; credit cards. Because now, we&#039;ve ruined the dollar, we&#039;re 1.5 trillion behind on critical infrastructure repair, 9.4 trillion in debt and still arguing whether or not we should just continue down this path. When Jimmy Carter left office, the debt was ONE trillion.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;For some perspective on Patrick&#039;s numbers, each employed American owes $250 a month interest on the debt. That&#039;s $6,000 a year for his sister&#039;s family (assuming both work). And that doesn&#039;t pay down a dime of the debt, which goes up by a staggering half trillion a year under Bush. We had a big party and charged it all to our kids, to whom we lovingly bequeath a mountain of debt and a degraded planet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great discussion. The sad truth is, we have been incredibly selfish and short-sighted. We used up the good times, and failed to heed numerous warnings. In fact, we ridiculed and demonized those who saw this coming. Even now, those who argue for serious changes are called &#8220;Chicken Littles&#8221;. Meanwhile, convinced it&#39;s &#8220;morning in America&#8221; we spent our savings, maxed out our credit cards, got second and third mortgages, bought big cars and acquired expensive habits. We were living large on our credit cards. We have been living large on our kids&#39; credit cards. Because now, we&#39;ve ruined the dollar, we&#39;re 1.5 trillion behind on critical infrastructure repair, 9.4 trillion in debt and still arguing whether or not we should just continue down this path. When Jimmy Carter left office, the debt was ONE trillion.</p>
<p>For some perspective on Patrick&#39;s numbers, each employed American owes $250 a month interest on the debt. That&#39;s $6,000 a year for his sister&#39;s family (assuming both work). And that doesn&#39;t pay down a dime of the debt, which goes up by a staggering half trillion a year under Bush. We had a big party and charged it all to our kids, to whom we lovingly bequeath a mountain of debt and a degraded planet.</p>
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		<title>By: GreenDreams</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/20507/some-thoughts-on-gas-prices/comment-page-1/#comment-120132</link>
		<dc:creator>GreenDreams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 13:55:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great discussion. The sad truth is, we have been incredibly selfish and short-sighted. We used up the good times, and failed to heed numerous warnings. In fact, we ridiculed and demonized those who saw this coming. Even now, those who argue for serious changes are called &quot;Chicken Littles&quot;. Meanwhile, convinced it&#039;s &quot;morning in America&quot; we spent our savings, maxed out our credit cards, got second and third mortgages, bought big cars and acquired expensive habits. We were living large on our credit cards. We have been living large on our kids&#039; credit cards. Because now, we&#039;ve ruined the dollar, we&#039;re 1.5 trillion behind on critical infrastructure repair, 9.4 trillion in debt and still arguing whether or not we should just continue down this path. When Jimmy Carter left office, the debt was ONE trillion.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;For some perspective on Patrick&#039;s numbers, each employed American owes $250 a month interest on the debt. That&#039;s $6,000 a year for his sister&#039;s family (assuming both work). And that doesn&#039;t pay down a dime of the debt, which goes up by a staggering half trillion a year under Bush. We had a big party and charged it all to our kids, to whom we lovingly bequeath a mountain of debt and a degraded planet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great discussion. The sad truth is, we have been incredibly selfish and short-sighted. We used up the good times, and failed to heed numerous warnings. In fact, we ridiculed and demonized those who saw this coming. Even now, those who argue for serious changes are called &#8220;Chicken Littles&#8221;. Meanwhile, convinced it&#39;s &#8220;morning in America&#8221; we spent our savings, maxed out our credit cards, got second and third mortgages, bought big cars and acquired expensive habits. We were living large on our credit cards. We have been living large on our kids&#39; credit cards. Because now, we&#39;ve ruined the dollar, we&#39;re 1.5 trillion behind on critical infrastructure repair, 9.4 trillion in debt and still arguing whether or not we should just continue down this path. When Jimmy Carter left office, the debt was ONE trillion.</p>
<p>For some perspective on Patrick&#39;s numbers, each employed American owes $250 a month interest on the debt. That&#39;s $6,000 a year for his sister&#39;s family (assuming both work). And that doesn&#39;t pay down a dime of the debt, which goes up by a staggering half trillion a year under Bush. We had a big party and charged it all to our kids, to whom we lovingly bequeath a mountain of debt and a degraded planet.</p>
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		<title>By: runasim</title>
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		<dc:creator>runasim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 10:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The price pinch is unmistable,worrisome and, for many, terrifying.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think, however, that we are reaping  what was sown by decades of ignoring warnings.&lt;br&gt;Fuel efficinecy, conservation, mass transportaion, questions about diminishing oil supplies are hardly anything new.&lt;br&gt;Each time these subjects were brought up, however, the implications were ignored, and they have been  scoffed at by many.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We&#039;ve been a nation of proud SUV and McMansion owners., with a feeling of entitilemant to cheap gas and cheap goods.  . Those hard working blue collar workers huritng now also voted for Bush and his energy non-policies in large numbers.   &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I understand the trouble we&#039;re in now, but  I also think Patrick has apoint.&lt;br&gt;If things hadn&#039;t got as bad as they are now, would anyone  be paying atttention today to the  decades-old warnings?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I hope we seize the silver lining around the storm clouds, and, for once, ignore campaign promises about easy fices and gas tax holidays.  I hope that finally, we grow up enough to insist on reasonable estimates  for the future and long term solutions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The price pinch is unmistable,worrisome and, for many, terrifying.</p>
<p>I think, however, that we are reaping  what was sown by decades of ignoring warnings.<br />Fuel efficinecy, conservation, mass transportaion, questions about diminishing oil supplies are hardly anything new.<br />Each time these subjects were brought up, however, the implications were ignored, and they have been  scoffed at by many.</p>
<p>We&#39;ve been a nation of proud SUV and McMansion owners., with a feeling of entitilemant to cheap gas and cheap goods.  . Those hard working blue collar workers huritng now also voted for Bush and his energy non-policies in large numbers.   </p>
<p>I understand the trouble we&#39;re in now, but  I also think Patrick has apoint.<br />If things hadn&#39;t got as bad as they are now, would anyone  be paying atttention today to the  decades-old warnings?</p>
<p>I hope we seize the silver lining around the storm clouds, and, for once, ignore campaign promises about easy fices and gas tax holidays.  I hope that finally, we grow up enough to insist on reasonable estimates  for the future and long term solutions.</p>
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		<title>By: Rambie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rambie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 05:33:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well Patrick, not just the Starbucks sipping bottled water drinking elites are getting the pinch.  Now there is some truth there are some luxuries that can be cut to help offset the price of gas for most of us.  I know many who have already cut back on many items and are facing much more than cutting out their Starbucks habit. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I too am cutting back on things.  I eat out less, purchase food more frugally, cut out extra driving. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Also what kind of impact by cutting out luxuries is on the economy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Patrick, not just the Starbucks sipping bottled water drinking elites are getting the pinch.  Now there is some truth there are some luxuries that can be cut to help offset the price of gas for most of us.  I know many who have already cut back on many items and are facing much more than cutting out their Starbucks habit. </p>
<p>I too am cutting back on things.  I eat out less, purchase food more frugally, cut out extra driving. </p>
<p>Also what kind of impact by cutting out luxuries is on the economy?</p>
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		<title>By: JSpencer</title>
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		<dc:creator>JSpencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 04:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suppose if everything else had remained the same, high gas prices would be relatively easy to adapt to. The fact is, prices on almost everything seem to have been rising steadily for some time now. The high gas prices are (for some people) the straw that is breakin the camel&#039;s back. That said, I believe there are a great many people in this country who complain about the increased strain of having easy access to what are in reality luxuries. Those of us with relatives who told us stories about living through the depression realize that what many folks consider to be necessities are far from it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose if everything else had remained the same, high gas prices would be relatively easy to adapt to. The fact is, prices on almost everything seem to have been rising steadily for some time now. The high gas prices are (for some people) the straw that is breakin the camel&#39;s back. That said, I believe there are a great many people in this country who complain about the increased strain of having easy access to what are in reality luxuries. Those of us with relatives who told us stories about living through the depression realize that what many folks consider to be necessities are far from it.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick E</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 04:15:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the comments so far.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As I tried to make clear in the post, I am in no way dismissing the burden this is on families. Speaking specicially to myself and my sisters family they don&#039;t do the starbucks or the bottled water.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;However the lines at SB are full every time I drive by. Again my general point was that gas prices seem to be a focus for people while high prices/wasted money elsewhere seems to slip through the cracks.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As to the falling dollar, I am hoping to post a series of posts on oil prices and the dollar in the coming weeks. I&#039;m no scholar but I hope to provide a little insight for people to discuss over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comments so far.</p>
<p>As I tried to make clear in the post, I am in no way dismissing the burden this is on families. Speaking specicially to myself and my sisters family they don&#39;t do the starbucks or the bottled water.</p>
<p>However the lines at SB are full every time I drive by. Again my general point was that gas prices seem to be a focus for people while high prices/wasted money elsewhere seems to slip through the cracks.</p>
<p>As to the falling dollar, I am hoping to post a series of posts on oil prices and the dollar in the coming weeks. I&#39;m no scholar but I hope to provide a little insight for people to discuss over.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Merritt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Merritt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 03:45:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My comment is kind of a combination of the two above.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The fact is that not every family is made equal.  You don&#039;t mention the financial situation of your sister.  If she and her husband have pretty good jobs, then maybe they are able to handle the situation without much headache.  Of course, the extra mouth to feed to come could change things.  Who knows.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Not everyone is as lucky to have such good jobs.  They may be employed in the &quot;low&quot; jobs (i.e. the ones everyone keeps associating with illegal immigrants), may be self-employed, and not employed at all during this current time.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;For my dad, it&#039;s the second option.  He runs his own small business in an industry that&#039;s changed a lot since he started doing it, along with the attitudes of many of his customers.  Now, I know that&#039;s not anybody else&#039;s fault (except perhaps the big box companies that have bastardized the industry with their crappy systems).  Yet, the fact remains that running a small business is hard to do in the best of times.  Well, what happens during a slump in business?  That&#039;s right, you just don&#039;t have the money coming in during those times.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There are some things he could do better.  I often say he&#039;s probably the local Dunkin Donut&#039;s best customer (though he usually only gets it once a day), and those charges can add up.  He could probably cut back a bit on them; fortunately, we&#039;re about to consolidate home and business into a new building, so that could become a reality.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Circumstance, along with other factors like the dropping dollar, have to be considered when discussing anyone&#039;s ability to afford gas.  Can my dad get to his business and around where he needs?  Sure.  Does he find it tough to do?  Definitely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My comment is kind of a combination of the two above.</p>
<p>The fact is that not every family is made equal.  You don&#39;t mention the financial situation of your sister.  If she and her husband have pretty good jobs, then maybe they are able to handle the situation without much headache.  Of course, the extra mouth to feed to come could change things.  Who knows.</p>
<p>Not everyone is as lucky to have such good jobs.  They may be employed in the &#8220;low&#8221; jobs (i.e. the ones everyone keeps associating with illegal immigrants), may be self-employed, and not employed at all during this current time.</p>
<p>For my dad, it&#39;s the second option.  He runs his own small business in an industry that&#39;s changed a lot since he started doing it, along with the attitudes of many of his customers.  Now, I know that&#39;s not anybody else&#39;s fault (except perhaps the big box companies that have bastardized the industry with their crappy systems).  Yet, the fact remains that running a small business is hard to do in the best of times.  Well, what happens during a slump in business?  That&#39;s right, you just don&#39;t have the money coming in during those times.</p>
<p>There are some things he could do better.  I often say he&#39;s probably the local Dunkin Donut&#39;s best customer (though he usually only gets it once a day), and those charges can add up.  He could probably cut back a bit on them; fortunately, we&#39;re about to consolidate home and business into a new building, so that could become a reality.</p>
<p>Circumstance, along with other factors like the dropping dollar, have to be considered when discussing anyone&#39;s ability to afford gas.  Can my dad get to his business and around where he needs?  Sure.  Does he find it tough to do?  Definitely.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim_Satterfield</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim_Satterfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 03:36:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>archangel beat me to it. The numbers Patrick cites are the same for families in similar situations who have never seen the inside of a Starbucks and laugh at the idea of buying bottled water instead of tap water. A cell phone for the kids? Are you nuts? They barely can afford to keep a roof over their heads and food on the table. And there are lots of them in this situation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>archangel beat me to it. The numbers Patrick cites are the same for families in similar situations who have never seen the inside of a Starbucks and laugh at the idea of buying bottled water instead of tap water. A cell phone for the kids? Are you nuts? They barely can afford to keep a roof over their heads and food on the table. And there are lots of them in this situation.</p>
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		<title>By: AustinRoth</title>
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		<dc:creator>AustinRoth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 03:21:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is even more devastating to the transport industry, not just airlines, but trucking companies and the like. The number of trucking companies that have failed in the past 18 months is triple the previous 10 years. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Think of the overall inflationary pressure this will cause (or conversely, if the Feds keep lowering the interest rate the continued devaluation of the dollar). These costs also get passed on, as do higher heating bill for those on gas, etc. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Simply looking at the effects of cost of gasoline on direct driving doesn&#039;t begin to capture the overall effect on a family budget.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is even more devastating to the transport industry, not just airlines, but trucking companies and the like. The number of trucking companies that have failed in the past 18 months is triple the previous 10 years. </p>
<p>Think of the overall inflationary pressure this will cause (or conversely, if the Feds keep lowering the interest rate the continued devaluation of the dollar). These costs also get passed on, as do higher heating bill for those on gas, etc. </p>
<p>Simply looking at the effects of cost of gasoline on direct driving doesn&#39;t begin to capture the overall effect on a family budget.</p>
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		<title>By: archangel</title>
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		<dc:creator>archangel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 03:00:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Youre right, Patrick, there is a lot that rises to the surface in our times, esp when there are rapid inflating pricings and loss of value at the same time. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;ve grown chidren who have children, one with disabilities, one with  a serious neurological illness. The cost of gasoline and food prices are far more devastating to those who are already tightly frugal. They dont go to starbucks or drink bottled water; they&#039;re in the trades, and the gas prices and cost for solid nutritional food for their children (they go through milk like water) is deeply stressful as they watch their savings dwindle and do not know what the future holds for health. I have read the scoffing about Americans and their precious cheap gasoline on many blogs over time. However, for those who already struggle, the rage and speed with which the increases came on, and the ongoing need to go to jobs involving labor at different sites is nothing to scorn in any way in my humble opinion. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;For those who have the luxury of having to decide to forego a $2.00 latte or whatever they cost, that&#039;s fine too. For those who have to forego nothing, that&#039;s fine also. But... It isnt fine in any way for those who have little or nothing and who also have serious health issues and who also have children. Nowadays, many families with young children are middle aged, not &#039;young&#039;. THe inflations affect them too, regardless of age&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;just my thought.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;dr.e</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Youre right, Patrick, there is a lot that rises to the surface in our times, esp when there are rapid inflating pricings and loss of value at the same time. </p>
<p>I&#39;ve grown chidren who have children, one with disabilities, one with  a serious neurological illness. The cost of gasoline and food prices are far more devastating to those who are already tightly frugal. They dont go to starbucks or drink bottled water; they&#39;re in the trades, and the gas prices and cost for solid nutritional food for their children (they go through milk like water) is deeply stressful as they watch their savings dwindle and do not know what the future holds for health. I have read the scoffing about Americans and their precious cheap gasoline on many blogs over time. However, for those who already struggle, the rage and speed with which the increases came on, and the ongoing need to go to jobs involving labor at different sites is nothing to scorn in any way in my humble opinion. </p>
<p>For those who have the luxury of having to decide to forego a $2.00 latte or whatever they cost, that&#39;s fine too. For those who have to forego nothing, that&#39;s fine also. But&#8230; It isnt fine in any way for those who have little or nothing and who also have serious health issues and who also have children. Nowadays, many families with young children are middle aged, not &#39;young&#39;. THe inflations affect them too, regardless of age</p>
<p>just my thought.</p>
<p>dr.e</p>
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