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		<title>By: DLS</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/20493/the-obligatory-socialized-oil-column/comment-page-1/#comment-116315</link>
		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 01:30:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha, ha, ha.  AmOil.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This is no surprise.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;When the Democrats opposed Bush&#039;s attempt to change Social Security, and chose to do nothing but be obstructionist and dishonest, who was one of the most notorious Democrat?  Hinchey!  He actually said that Social Security &quot;will be more valuable&quot; in the future if we &quot;leave it alone&quot; now (i.e., do nothing, allowing it to fail, as it will unless it is saved -- which won&#039;t happen from Obama&#039;s &quot;solution&quot; [sic]).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It&#039;s no surprise he&#039;s one of those who would repeat the lefty-excess nonsense that we were hearing after the Iranian revolution and despite lefty blunders by our own government at the time, both committed and conceived (windfall profits tax, price controls and attempted command and control of distribution of supplies, outright nationalization [federalization] of the oil companies, often accompanied by the same nonsense you could read any time in &quot;The Energy Rip-Off,&quot; by Gus Hall).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Are these risible, failed, decades-old failed, policies of the past the kind of &quot;change&quot; Obama and the other left Dems present (threaten) us with if they control the White House and Congress?  The Dems lie that McCain is Bush&#039;s third term, while they advertise openly they&#039;d be Carter&#039;s second or McGovern&#039;s first!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ha, ha. ha.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;(Can&#039;t they employ an IQ above 50 and simply wait until after the election before they advertize being crazy?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha, ha, ha.  AmOil.</p>
<p>This is no surprise.</p>
<p>When the Democrats opposed Bush&#39;s attempt to change Social Security, and chose to do nothing but be obstructionist and dishonest, who was one of the most notorious Democrat?  Hinchey!  He actually said that Social Security &#8220;will be more valuable&#8221; in the future if we &#8220;leave it alone&#8221; now (i.e., do nothing, allowing it to fail, as it will unless it is saved &#8212; which won&#39;t happen from Obama&#39;s &#8220;solution&#8221; [sic]).</p>
<p>It&#39;s no surprise he&#39;s one of those who would repeat the lefty-excess nonsense that we were hearing after the Iranian revolution and despite lefty blunders by our own government at the time, both committed and conceived (windfall profits tax, price controls and attempted command and control of distribution of supplies, outright nationalization [federalization] of the oil companies, often accompanied by the same nonsense you could read any time in &#8220;The Energy Rip-Off,&#8221; by Gus Hall).</p>
<p>Are these risible, failed, decades-old failed, policies of the past the kind of &#8220;change&#8221; Obama and the other left Dems present (threaten) us with if they control the White House and Congress?  The Dems lie that McCain is Bush&#39;s third term, while they advertise openly they&#39;d be Carter&#39;s second or McGovern&#39;s first!</p>
<p>Ha, ha. ha.</p>
<p>(Can&#39;t they employ an IQ above 50 and simply wait until after the election before they advertize being crazy?)</p>
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		<title>By: how can i found out the history of my house</title>
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		<dc:creator>how can i found out the history of my house</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 00:37:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Ed Morrissey Show: Michelle Bachmann Conference Call</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Ed Morrissey Show: Michelle Bachmann Conference Call</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 17:30:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the first half, we&#8217;ll talk to Jazz Shaw about Maurice Hinchey and his support for nationalizing America&#8217;s oil refineries, and Barack [...]</description>
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		<title>By: runasim</title>
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		<dc:creator>runasim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 17:21:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t overreact to words, Jazz.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Between laissez-faire, unchecked capitalism and communism (which isn&#039;t even .&lt;br&gt;an economic philosophy) lies a vast ocean.&lt;br&gt;Some very successful economies have governemnt-private partnership enterprises without Hugo Chavez moving in.  Mixing elements of socialism with basic capitlaism, in fact, has led to the most stable societies.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Admitedly, this is above my economc  expertise level, but I am concerned that the global market is weakening national governements and, increasingly, putting corporations in the driver&#039;s seat  for national policies. It&#039;s not good for our nation and it&#039;s not good for global markets, either.&lt;br&gt;Our agro subsidies are way out of kilter, for example, but so are our run-amok excuses for  everything on the basis of market trends.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Regarding new drilling, taxpayers will foot a big part of the bill in some form, anyway.  Oil dompanies, like many corporations, are too finicky about  absorbing risk as well as profit into their operations.  While nationalization is going much, much too far, I wouldn&#039;t mind (I think?) the government having  a voice in the decisions  that will affect how much of taxpayer  investment will translalte into taxpayer benefits. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Just considering new approaches is not outrageous, especially considering the pickle we&#039;re in due to not thinking things through..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#39;t overreact to words, Jazz.</p>
<p>Between laissez-faire, unchecked capitalism and communism (which isn&#39;t even .<br />an economic philosophy) lies a vast ocean.<br />Some very successful economies have governemnt-private partnership enterprises without Hugo Chavez moving in.  Mixing elements of socialism with basic capitlaism, in fact, has led to the most stable societies.</p>
<p>Admitedly, this is above my economc  expertise level, but I am concerned that the global market is weakening national governements and, increasingly, putting corporations in the driver&#39;s seat  for national policies. It&#39;s not good for our nation and it&#39;s not good for global markets, either.<br />Our agro subsidies are way out of kilter, for example, but so are our run-amok excuses for  everything on the basis of market trends.</p>
<p>Regarding new drilling, taxpayers will foot a big part of the bill in some form, anyway.  Oil dompanies, like many corporations, are too finicky about  absorbing risk as well as profit into their operations.  While nationalization is going much, much too far, I wouldn&#39;t mind (I think?) the government having  a voice in the decisions  that will affect how much of taxpayer  investment will translalte into taxpayer benefits. </p>
<p>Just considering new approaches is not outrageous, especially considering the pickle we&#39;re in due to not thinking things through..</p>
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		<title>By: Rambie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rambie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 16:42:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also did not take it as a call to nationalize all the oil industry, just new refineries.  It&#039;s a bad idea yes, but I think he wants more accountability of the oil industry.     &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It&#039;s a fine line, I don&#039;t want to see the government holding down businesses with too many hindrances, yet I don&#039;t want businesses to be able to gouge their customers without any accountability.    &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Something seems amiss in the oil industry and I support removing the tax breaks the industry gets, with those billions in profits they can fund their own R&amp;D or whatever it is these tax breaks are supposed to fund.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also did not take it as a call to nationalize all the oil industry, just new refineries.  It&#39;s a bad idea yes, but I think he wants more accountability of the oil industry.     </p>
<p>It&#39;s a fine line, I don&#39;t want to see the government holding down businesses with too many hindrances, yet I don&#39;t want businesses to be able to gouge their customers without any accountability.    </p>
<p>Something seems amiss in the oil industry and I support removing the tax breaks the industry gets, with those billions in profits they can fund their own R&#038;D or whatever it is these tax breaks are supposed to fund.</p>
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		<title>By: ChrisWWW</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChrisWWW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 16:15:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would add that there is no benefit to requiring that the oil and gas found at these offshore sites be reserved for the American market.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would add that there is no benefit to requiring that the oil and gas found at these offshore sites be reserved for the American market.</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 14:22:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe I read that wrong or missed a line somewhere, but it seems to me that Hinchey is talking about public ownership of NEW refineries, not taking over old ones or buying out the oil industry.  I don&#039;t think it&#039;s a good idea because I don&#039;t agree that we should be refining or drilling for more oil.  We should be pushing everything we have into renewable energy sources instead of wasting more time and investment on fossil fuels.  Plus, the last thing we need is more government involvement in the oil business.  But I think your reaction was a bit hyperbolic, to be perfectly honest.  All you needed to do was state why you think it&#039;s a bad plan.  The insults are unnecessary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe I read that wrong or missed a line somewhere, but it seems to me that Hinchey is talking about public ownership of NEW refineries, not taking over old ones or buying out the oil industry.  I don&#39;t think it&#39;s a good idea because I don&#39;t agree that we should be refining or drilling for more oil.  We should be pushing everything we have into renewable energy sources instead of wasting more time and investment on fossil fuels.  Plus, the last thing we need is more government involvement in the oil business.  But I think your reaction was a bit hyperbolic, to be perfectly honest.  All you needed to do was state why you think it&#39;s a bad plan.  The insults are unnecessary.</p>
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		<title>By: democrat nationalize oil refineries</title>
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		<dc:creator>democrat nationalize oil refineries</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 12:54:40 +0000</pubDate>
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