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		<title>By: GreenDreams</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/20466/obamas-change-shouting-at-the-ocean/comment-page-1/#comment-142260</link>
		<dc:creator>GreenDreams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 17:26:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Progressive John McCain? Hahahaha. Oh, good one.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Economic policy (see GW Bush): permanent tax cuts for the wealthy, elevating wealth over work. Continue loopholes for offshoring jobs. More GOP style debt to pass on to our children.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Foreign policy (see GW Bush): more cowboy &quot;diplomacy.&quot; Bomb Iran. 100 years in Iraq. More saber rattling and bullying. Continuing torture and rendition.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Domestic policy (see GW Bush): Continue spying on Americans. Continue eroding rule of law. Big government in the bedroom, the doctor&#039;s office. Corporate lobbyists writing the rules and calling the shots. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Supreme Court: radical right judges who favor an imperial presidency, no oversight, continued evasion of oversight, destruction of checks and balances, loss of women&#039;s right to medical decisions, contempt for gay rights.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Energy policy: Give big oil more oil leases (68 million acres leased so far sit idle) and eliminate regulation so the companies can be even more profitable. Drill off Florida (bye bye Florida voters). &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Not trying to convince you, jlmeal, but for others, don&#039;t buy this BS. It&#039;s just more years of failed Bush policies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Progressive John McCain? Hahahaha. Oh, good one.</p>
<p>Economic policy (see GW Bush): permanent tax cuts for the wealthy, elevating wealth over work. Continue loopholes for offshoring jobs. More GOP style debt to pass on to our children.</p>
<p>Foreign policy (see GW Bush): more cowboy &#8220;diplomacy.&#8221; Bomb Iran. 100 years in Iraq. More saber rattling and bullying. Continuing torture and rendition.</p>
<p>Domestic policy (see GW Bush): Continue spying on Americans. Continue eroding rule of law. Big government in the bedroom, the doctor&#39;s office. Corporate lobbyists writing the rules and calling the shots. </p>
<p>Supreme Court: radical right judges who favor an imperial presidency, no oversight, continued evasion of oversight, destruction of checks and balances, loss of women&#39;s right to medical decisions, contempt for gay rights.</p>
<p>Energy policy: Give big oil more oil leases (68 million acres leased so far sit idle) and eliminate regulation so the companies can be even more profitable. Drill off Florida (bye bye Florida voters). </p>
<p>Not trying to convince you, jlmeal, but for others, don&#39;t buy this BS. It&#39;s just more years of failed Bush policies.</p>
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		<title>By: GreenDreams</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/20466/obamas-change-shouting-at-the-ocean/comment-page-1/#comment-142261</link>
		<dc:creator>GreenDreams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 17:26:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Progressive John McCain? Hahahaha. Oh, good one.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Economic policy (see GW Bush): permanent tax cuts for the wealthy, elevating wealth over work. Continue loopholes for offshoring jobs. More GOP style debt to pass on to our children.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Foreign policy (see GW Bush): more cowboy &quot;diplomacy.&quot; Bomb Iran. 100 years in Iraq. More saber rattling and bullying. Continuing torture and rendition.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Domestic policy (see GW Bush): Continue spying on Americans. Continue eroding rule of law. Big government in the bedroom, the doctor&#039;s office. Corporate lobbyists writing the rules and calling the shots. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Supreme Court: radical right judges who favor an imperial presidency, no oversight, continued evasion of oversight, destruction of checks and balances, loss of women&#039;s right to medical decisions, contempt for gay rights.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Energy policy: Give big oil more oil leases (68 million acres leased so far sit idle) and eliminate regulation so the companies can be even more profitable. Drill off Florida (bye bye Florida voters). &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Not trying to convince you, jlmeal, but for others, don&#039;t buy this BS. It&#039;s just more years of failed Bush policies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Progressive John McCain? Hahahaha. Oh, good one.</p>
<p>Economic policy (see GW Bush): permanent tax cuts for the wealthy, elevating wealth over work. Continue loopholes for offshoring jobs. More GOP style debt to pass on to our children.</p>
<p>Foreign policy (see GW Bush): more cowboy &#8220;diplomacy.&#8221; Bomb Iran. 100 years in Iraq. More saber rattling and bullying. Continuing torture and rendition.</p>
<p>Domestic policy (see GW Bush): Continue spying on Americans. Continue eroding rule of law. Big government in the bedroom, the doctor&#39;s office. Corporate lobbyists writing the rules and calling the shots. </p>
<p>Supreme Court: radical right judges who favor an imperial presidency, no oversight, continued evasion of oversight, destruction of checks and balances, loss of women&#39;s right to medical decisions, contempt for gay rights.</p>
<p>Energy policy: Give big oil more oil leases (68 million acres leased so far sit idle) and eliminate regulation so the companies can be even more profitable. Drill off Florida (bye bye Florida voters). </p>
<p>Not trying to convince you, jlmeal, but for others, don&#39;t buy this BS. It&#39;s just more years of failed Bush policies.</p>
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		<title>By: jlmeal</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/20466/obamas-change-shouting-at-the-ocean/comment-page-1/#comment-142258</link>
		<dc:creator>jlmeal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 08:42:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:        JOHN McCAIN’S 3R ECONOMIC PLAN 2008&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Progressive Candidate John McCain comes through for America with his 3R economic plan. &lt;br&gt;In the persona of Theodore Roosevelt, McCain’s plan just makes sense.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;1.  RETHINK: America must rethink the global views on what America is capable of in our current state of technology, engineering and the demands that face the world.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;“RETHINK” in terms of re-action means to set forth this plan. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Most Americans know where the USA falls short in the ways of manufacturing and valuable jobs.&lt;br&gt;It’s time to meet the change of global demands with Made in USA quality and a new American workforce. Oddly enough, the framework is ready and waiting for this plan and active participation. The Progressive attitude of John McCain to get things done will resurrect America.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;2.  REFORM: America must rise to these demands and compete aggressively in a global economy. We must demand higher quality products and less restricted trade routes for Made in USA components. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;”RE-FORM” is simple to comprehend as through John McCain’s Progressive attitudes, the USA will reform our manufacturing and hit it full steam ahead! &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Made in USA has always meant highest quality products at moderate prices. The difference today is, we save loose change with Imported Chinese junk products, but few high paying jobs exist to do anything except buy the cheaper foreign-made products. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;3.  REINVENT: America and Americans must reinvent themselves to reach and maintain these standards and by sheer American ingenuity, control the world’s marketplace in the competitive manner, as we have always been proud to rule. Can you hear Theodore Roosevelt shouting this? &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;”RE-INVENT” is the exciting part of McCain’s 3R plan. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Americans in need of a future yet without a desire, funding or free time to spend 2 to 8 years in college can go back to a re-invented manufacturing education. McCain’s formula allows these new students, young and old, to be paid a moderate paycheck while learning their new skills and leadership roles in hands on classrooms! Without costing taxpayers or the US government additional funds, we can literally change the face of America and the world. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Learning the skills required in order to become the American driving force behind new USA manufacturing boom, many Americans will also gain the skills to become the CEOs and leaders of their own USA Mfg arenas. Leading a group of people who love their new lifestyle is not difficult and Americans have been proving American ingenuity and leadership since Theodore Roosevelt’s Progressive Republican era. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Initial estimates of 1 in 5 students will go on to begin his or her own company and drive even more Americans into a viable lifestyle with real jobs, real benefits and a retirement to look forward to. Many students will combine forces and create successful joint ventures.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;America has the means to follow through with John McCain’s 3R plan, ready and in place across the USA. The buildings we need sit vacant for the most part. America has millions of people screaming for new and improved jobs. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Senator McCain has provided the new guard for Social Security, the promise of retirement and the dreams that can be realized by Americans who would otherwise be lost or at the mercy of a dying workforce. This is the new workforce for American’s future. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;By assuming leases on abandoned stores and factories across America with MC-3R schools and mini-manufacturing training centers, the USA made products can be sold and support the stores. Building owners write off the loss in taxes over a few years! &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Although the thousands of new businesses manufacturing USA Made products is exciting enough, the real excitement comes from the massive amount of additional jobs that will be created to provide the new housing, new buildings, new parks, shopping, grocery stores, schools, government outlets and so much more.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The Key PROBLEM with the housing slump and the huge crude oil buy-out is not from greedy developers or greedy oil companies, but from the desire to locate and invest in the era’s best investments. Housing was #1 until the investment funds were pulled and crude oil took its place as a commodity. McCain will get us out of the mess that threatens the world’s economy.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;These three R’s will be accomplished by the McCain express and through wealthy American entrepreneurs who were once able to invest in America’s manufacturing capabilities but have since fallen into investments that have caused catastrophic world economy failure.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;McCain’s Progressive nature embodies Theodore Roosevelt more than any other US presidential candidate in history since. &lt;br&gt;We need John McCain to lead our nation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:        JOHN McCAIN’S 3R ECONOMIC PLAN 2008</p>
<p>Progressive Candidate John McCain comes through for America with his 3R economic plan. <br />In the persona of Theodore Roosevelt, McCain’s plan just makes sense.</p>
<p>1.  RETHINK: America must rethink the global views on what America is capable of in our current state of technology, engineering and the demands that face the world.</p>
<p>“RETHINK” in terms of re-action means to set forth this plan. </p>
<p>Most Americans know where the USA falls short in the ways of manufacturing and valuable jobs.<br />It’s time to meet the change of global demands with Made in USA quality and a new American workforce. Oddly enough, the framework is ready and waiting for this plan and active participation. The Progressive attitude of John McCain to get things done will resurrect America.</p>
<p>2.  REFORM: America must rise to these demands and compete aggressively in a global economy. We must demand higher quality products and less restricted trade routes for Made in USA components. </p>
<p>”RE-FORM” is simple to comprehend as through John McCain’s Progressive attitudes, the USA will reform our manufacturing and hit it full steam ahead! </p>
<p>Made in USA has always meant highest quality products at moderate prices. The difference today is, we save loose change with Imported Chinese junk products, but few high paying jobs exist to do anything except buy the cheaper foreign-made products. </p>
<p>3.  REINVENT: America and Americans must reinvent themselves to reach and maintain these standards and by sheer American ingenuity, control the world’s marketplace in the competitive manner, as we have always been proud to rule. Can you hear Theodore Roosevelt shouting this? </p>
<p>”RE-INVENT” is the exciting part of McCain’s 3R plan. </p>
<p>Americans in need of a future yet without a desire, funding or free time to spend 2 to 8 years in college can go back to a re-invented manufacturing education. McCain’s formula allows these new students, young and old, to be paid a moderate paycheck while learning their new skills and leadership roles in hands on classrooms! Without costing taxpayers or the US government additional funds, we can literally change the face of America and the world. </p>
<p>Learning the skills required in order to become the American driving force behind new USA manufacturing boom, many Americans will also gain the skills to become the CEOs and leaders of their own USA Mfg arenas. Leading a group of people who love their new lifestyle is not difficult and Americans have been proving American ingenuity and leadership since Theodore Roosevelt’s Progressive Republican era. </p>
<p>Initial estimates of 1 in 5 students will go on to begin his or her own company and drive even more Americans into a viable lifestyle with real jobs, real benefits and a retirement to look forward to. Many students will combine forces and create successful joint ventures.</p>
<p>America has the means to follow through with John McCain’s 3R plan, ready and in place across the USA. The buildings we need sit vacant for the most part. America has millions of people screaming for new and improved jobs. </p>
<p>Senator McCain has provided the new guard for Social Security, the promise of retirement and the dreams that can be realized by Americans who would otherwise be lost or at the mercy of a dying workforce. This is the new workforce for American’s future. </p>
<p>By assuming leases on abandoned stores and factories across America with MC-3R schools and mini-manufacturing training centers, the USA made products can be sold and support the stores. Building owners write off the loss in taxes over a few years! </p>
<p>Although the thousands of new businesses manufacturing USA Made products is exciting enough, the real excitement comes from the massive amount of additional jobs that will be created to provide the new housing, new buildings, new parks, shopping, grocery stores, schools, government outlets and so much more.</p>
<p>The Key PROBLEM with the housing slump and the huge crude oil buy-out is not from greedy developers or greedy oil companies, but from the desire to locate and invest in the era’s best investments. Housing was #1 until the investment funds were pulled and crude oil took its place as a commodity. McCain will get us out of the mess that threatens the world’s economy.</p>
<p>These three R’s will be accomplished by the McCain express and through wealthy American entrepreneurs who were once able to invest in America’s manufacturing capabilities but have since fallen into investments that have caused catastrophic world economy failure.</p>
<p>McCain’s Progressive nature embodies Theodore Roosevelt more than any other US presidential candidate in history since. <br />We need John McCain to lead our nation.</p>
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		<title>By: jlmeal</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/20466/obamas-change-shouting-at-the-ocean/comment-page-1/#comment-142259</link>
		<dc:creator>jlmeal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 08:42:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:        JOHN McCAIN’S 3R ECONOMIC PLAN 2008&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Progressive Candidate John McCain comes through for America with his 3R economic plan. &lt;br&gt;In the persona of Theodore Roosevelt, McCain’s plan just makes sense.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;1.  RETHINK: America must rethink the global views on what America is capable of in our current state of technology, engineering and the demands that face the world.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;“RETHINK” in terms of re-action means to set forth this plan. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Most Americans know where the USA falls short in the ways of manufacturing and valuable jobs.&lt;br&gt;It’s time to meet the change of global demands with Made in USA quality and a new American workforce. Oddly enough, the framework is ready and waiting for this plan and active participation. The Progressive attitude of John McCain to get things done will resurrect America.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;2.  REFORM: America must rise to these demands and compete aggressively in a global economy. We must demand higher quality products and less restricted trade routes for Made in USA components. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;”RE-FORM” is simple to comprehend as through John McCain’s Progressive attitudes, the USA will reform our manufacturing and hit it full steam ahead! &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Made in USA has always meant highest quality products at moderate prices. The difference today is, we save loose change with Imported Chinese junk products, but few high paying jobs exist to do anything except buy the cheaper foreign-made products. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;3.  REINVENT: America and Americans must reinvent themselves to reach and maintain these standards and by sheer American ingenuity, control the world’s marketplace in the competitive manner, as we have always been proud to rule. Can you hear Theodore Roosevelt shouting this? &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;”RE-INVENT” is the exciting part of McCain’s 3R plan. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Americans in need of a future yet without a desire, funding or free time to spend 2 to 8 years in college can go back to a re-invented manufacturing education. McCain’s formula allows these new students, young and old, to be paid a moderate paycheck while learning their new skills and leadership roles in hands on classrooms! Without costing taxpayers or the US government additional funds, we can literally change the face of America and the world. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Learning the skills required in order to become the American driving force behind new USA manufacturing boom, many Americans will also gain the skills to become the CEOs and leaders of their own USA Mfg arenas. Leading a group of people who love their new lifestyle is not difficult and Americans have been proving American ingenuity and leadership since Theodore Roosevelt’s Progressive Republican era. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Initial estimates of 1 in 5 students will go on to begin his or her own company and drive even more Americans into a viable lifestyle with real jobs, real benefits and a retirement to look forward to. Many students will combine forces and create successful joint ventures.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;America has the means to follow through with John McCain’s 3R plan, ready and in place across the USA. The buildings we need sit vacant for the most part. America has millions of people screaming for new and improved jobs. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Senator McCain has provided the new guard for Social Security, the promise of retirement and the dreams that can be realized by Americans who would otherwise be lost or at the mercy of a dying workforce. This is the new workforce for American’s future. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;By assuming leases on abandoned stores and factories across America with MC-3R schools and mini-manufacturing training centers, the USA made products can be sold and support the stores. Building owners write off the loss in taxes over a few years! &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Although the thousands of new businesses manufacturing USA Made products is exciting enough, the real excitement comes from the massive amount of additional jobs that will be created to provide the new housing, new buildings, new parks, shopping, grocery stores, schools, government outlets and so much more.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The Key PROBLEM with the housing slump and the huge crude oil buy-out is not from greedy developers or greedy oil companies, but from the desire to locate and invest in the era’s best investments. Housing was #1 until the investment funds were pulled and crude oil took its place as a commodity. McCain will get us out of the mess that threatens the world’s economy.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;These three R’s will be accomplished by the McCain express and through wealthy American entrepreneurs who were once able to invest in America’s manufacturing capabilities but have since fallen into investments that have caused catastrophic world economy failure.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;McCain’s Progressive nature embodies Theodore Roosevelt more than any other US presidential candidate in history since. &lt;br&gt;We need John McCain to lead our nation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:        JOHN McCAIN’S 3R ECONOMIC PLAN 2008</p>
<p>Progressive Candidate John McCain comes through for America with his 3R economic plan. <br />In the persona of Theodore Roosevelt, McCain’s plan just makes sense.</p>
<p>1.  RETHINK: America must rethink the global views on what America is capable of in our current state of technology, engineering and the demands that face the world.</p>
<p>“RETHINK” in terms of re-action means to set forth this plan. </p>
<p>Most Americans know where the USA falls short in the ways of manufacturing and valuable jobs.<br />It’s time to meet the change of global demands with Made in USA quality and a new American workforce. Oddly enough, the framework is ready and waiting for this plan and active participation. The Progressive attitude of John McCain to get things done will resurrect America.</p>
<p>2.  REFORM: America must rise to these demands and compete aggressively in a global economy. We must demand higher quality products and less restricted trade routes for Made in USA components. </p>
<p>”RE-FORM” is simple to comprehend as through John McCain’s Progressive attitudes, the USA will reform our manufacturing and hit it full steam ahead! </p>
<p>Made in USA has always meant highest quality products at moderate prices. The difference today is, we save loose change with Imported Chinese junk products, but few high paying jobs exist to do anything except buy the cheaper foreign-made products. </p>
<p>3.  REINVENT: America and Americans must reinvent themselves to reach and maintain these standards and by sheer American ingenuity, control the world’s marketplace in the competitive manner, as we have always been proud to rule. Can you hear Theodore Roosevelt shouting this? </p>
<p>”RE-INVENT” is the exciting part of McCain’s 3R plan. </p>
<p>Americans in need of a future yet without a desire, funding or free time to spend 2 to 8 years in college can go back to a re-invented manufacturing education. McCain’s formula allows these new students, young and old, to be paid a moderate paycheck while learning their new skills and leadership roles in hands on classrooms! Without costing taxpayers or the US government additional funds, we can literally change the face of America and the world. </p>
<p>Learning the skills required in order to become the American driving force behind new USA manufacturing boom, many Americans will also gain the skills to become the CEOs and leaders of their own USA Mfg arenas. Leading a group of people who love their new lifestyle is not difficult and Americans have been proving American ingenuity and leadership since Theodore Roosevelt’s Progressive Republican era. </p>
<p>Initial estimates of 1 in 5 students will go on to begin his or her own company and drive even more Americans into a viable lifestyle with real jobs, real benefits and a retirement to look forward to. Many students will combine forces and create successful joint ventures.</p>
<p>America has the means to follow through with John McCain’s 3R plan, ready and in place across the USA. The buildings we need sit vacant for the most part. America has millions of people screaming for new and improved jobs. </p>
<p>Senator McCain has provided the new guard for Social Security, the promise of retirement and the dreams that can be realized by Americans who would otherwise be lost or at the mercy of a dying workforce. This is the new workforce for American’s future. </p>
<p>By assuming leases on abandoned stores and factories across America with MC-3R schools and mini-manufacturing training centers, the USA made products can be sold and support the stores. Building owners write off the loss in taxes over a few years! </p>
<p>Although the thousands of new businesses manufacturing USA Made products is exciting enough, the real excitement comes from the massive amount of additional jobs that will be created to provide the new housing, new buildings, new parks, shopping, grocery stores, schools, government outlets and so much more.</p>
<p>The Key PROBLEM with the housing slump and the huge crude oil buy-out is not from greedy developers or greedy oil companies, but from the desire to locate and invest in the era’s best investments. Housing was #1 until the investment funds were pulled and crude oil took its place as a commodity. McCain will get us out of the mess that threatens the world’s economy.</p>
<p>These three R’s will be accomplished by the McCain express and through wealthy American entrepreneurs who were once able to invest in America’s manufacturing capabilities but have since fallen into investments that have caused catastrophic world economy failure.</p>
<p>McCain’s Progressive nature embodies Theodore Roosevelt more than any other US presidential candidate in history since. <br />We need John McCain to lead our nation.</p>
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		<title>By: ChrisWWW</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/20466/obamas-change-shouting-at-the-ocean/comment-page-1/#comment-142256</link>
		<dc:creator>ChrisWWW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 22:37:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama challenged the petitions of other candidates, and now he&#039;s the second coming of Mussolini. That&#039;s simply genius.</description>
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		<title>By: ChrisWWW</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/20466/obamas-change-shouting-at-the-ocean/comment-page-1/#comment-142257</link>
		<dc:creator>ChrisWWW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 22:37:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama challenged the petitions of other candidates, and now he&#039;s the second coming of Mussolini. That&#039;s simply genius.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama challenged the petitions of other candidates, and now he&#39;s the second coming of Mussolini. That&#39;s simply genius.</p>
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		<title>By: GreenDreams</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/20466/obamas-change-shouting-at-the-ocean/comment-page-1/#comment-142254</link>
		<dc:creator>GreenDreams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 20:59:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way, I&#039;ve been involved in such petition drives and I&#039;ve worked (volunteer) for the Dem party in the Recorder&#039;s office. Before submitting petitions, we checked to see that all the signatures complied with the regulations. It&#039;s just plain stupid and lazy not to. It&#039;s an amateur mistake. And in the Recorder&#039;s office, any signatures that didn&#039;t meet the regs were considered illegitimate (it&#039;s the law!) and discarded.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, I&#39;ve been involved in such petition drives and I&#39;ve worked (volunteer) for the Dem party in the Recorder&#39;s office. Before submitting petitions, we checked to see that all the signatures complied with the regulations. It&#39;s just plain stupid and lazy not to. It&#39;s an amateur mistake. And in the Recorder&#39;s office, any signatures that didn&#39;t meet the regs were considered illegitimate (it&#39;s the law!) and discarded.</p>
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		<title>By: GreenDreams</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/20466/obamas-change-shouting-at-the-ocean/comment-page-1/#comment-142255</link>
		<dc:creator>GreenDreams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 20:59:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way, I&#039;ve been involved in such petition drives and I&#039;ve worked (volunteer) for the Dem party in the Recorder&#039;s office. Before submitting petitions, we checked to see that all the signatures complied with the regulations. It&#039;s just plain stupid and lazy not to. It&#039;s an amateur mistake. And in the Recorder&#039;s office, any signatures that didn&#039;t meet the regs were considered illegitimate (it&#039;s the law!) and discarded.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, I&#39;ve been involved in such petition drives and I&#39;ve worked (volunteer) for the Dem party in the Recorder&#39;s office. Before submitting petitions, we checked to see that all the signatures complied with the regulations. It&#39;s just plain stupid and lazy not to. It&#39;s an amateur mistake. And in the Recorder&#39;s office, any signatures that didn&#39;t meet the regs were considered illegitimate (it&#39;s the law!) and discarded.</p>
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		<title>By: GreenDreams</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/20466/obamas-change-shouting-at-the-ocean/comment-page-1/#comment-142252</link>
		<dc:creator>GreenDreams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 20:56:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sil, you seem to be defending the illegal practice of getting on the ballot with bogus voter signatures. Obama didn&#039;t &quot;exterminate&quot; anyone. Why do you assume the other candidates were legitimate candidates for that office? Maybe those candidates deliberately padded their petitions with fake voters. Maybe not. It doesn&#039;t matter. The law says the signatures have to be legitimate and signed by real, living voters in the district, state, county or city for which they are petitioning to be on the ballot. You marginalize the law and rationalize cheating when you characterize abiding with election law as &quot;crossing Ts and dotting Is.&quot; And when you call being a stickler for following the rules as &quot;nefarious, underhanded, slimey (sic) old-school tactics&quot; WOW. You make the law breakers the heroes. You&#039;re losing credibility with every comment.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Election officials are charged with scrutinizing these petitions and making sure the signatures are legitimate. This is NOT trivial. It&#039;s based on laws passed by Congress, signed by the president and upheld by the courts. It protects our democratic process. You are justifying cheating, especially by &quot;progressive minority candidates.&quot; It is NOT OK to cheat in the electoral process. It is NOT fascism to insist that the process be legitimate. I don&#039;t see how you can rationalize gaming the system while criticizing Obama for using the system legitimately. Amazing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sil, you seem to be defending the illegal practice of getting on the ballot with bogus voter signatures. Obama didn&#39;t &#8220;exterminate&#8221; anyone. Why do you assume the other candidates were legitimate candidates for that office? Maybe those candidates deliberately padded their petitions with fake voters. Maybe not. It doesn&#39;t matter. The law says the signatures have to be legitimate and signed by real, living voters in the district, state, county or city for which they are petitioning to be on the ballot. You marginalize the law and rationalize cheating when you characterize abiding with election law as &#8220;crossing Ts and dotting Is.&#8221; And when you call being a stickler for following the rules as &#8220;nefarious, underhanded, slimey (sic) old-school tactics&#8221; WOW. You make the law breakers the heroes. You&#39;re losing credibility with every comment.</p>
<p>Election officials are charged with scrutinizing these petitions and making sure the signatures are legitimate. This is NOT trivial. It&#39;s based on laws passed by Congress, signed by the president and upheld by the courts. It protects our democratic process. You are justifying cheating, especially by &#8220;progressive minority candidates.&#8221; It is NOT OK to cheat in the electoral process. It is NOT fascism to insist that the process be legitimate. I don&#39;t see how you can rationalize gaming the system while criticizing Obama for using the system legitimately. Amazing.</p>
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		<title>By: GreenDreams</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/20466/obamas-change-shouting-at-the-ocean/comment-page-1/#comment-142253</link>
		<dc:creator>GreenDreams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 20:56:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sil, you seem to be defending the illegal practice of getting on the ballot with bogus voter signatures. Obama didn&#039;t &quot;exterminate&quot; anyone. Why do you assume the other candidates were legitimate candidates for that office? Maybe those candidates deliberately padded their petitions with fake voters. Maybe not. It doesn&#039;t matter. The law says the signatures have to be legitimate and signed by real, living voters in the district, state, county or city for which they are petitioning to be on the ballot. You marginalize the law and rationalize cheating when you characterize abiding with election law as &quot;crossing Ts and dotting Is.&quot; And when you call being a stickler for following the rules as &quot;nefarious, underhanded, slimey (sic) old-school tactics&quot; WOW. You make the law breakers the heroes. You&#039;re losing credibility with every comment.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Election officials are charged with scrutinizing these petitions and making sure the signatures are legitimate. This is NOT trivial. It&#039;s based on laws passed by Congress, signed by the president and upheld by the courts. It protects our democratic process. You are justifying cheating, especially by &quot;progressive minority candidates.&quot; It is NOT OK to cheat in the electoral process. It is NOT fascism to insist that the process be legitimate. I don&#039;t see how you can rationalize gaming the system while criticizing Obama for using the system legitimately. Amazing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sil, you seem to be defending the illegal practice of getting on the ballot with bogus voter signatures. Obama didn&#39;t &#8220;exterminate&#8221; anyone. Why do you assume the other candidates were legitimate candidates for that office? Maybe those candidates deliberately padded their petitions with fake voters. Maybe not. It doesn&#39;t matter. The law says the signatures have to be legitimate and signed by real, living voters in the district, state, county or city for which they are petitioning to be on the ballot. You marginalize the law and rationalize cheating when you characterize abiding with election law as &#8220;crossing Ts and dotting Is.&#8221; And when you call being a stickler for following the rules as &#8220;nefarious, underhanded, slimey (sic) old-school tactics&#8221; WOW. You make the law breakers the heroes. You&#39;re losing credibility with every comment.</p>
<p>Election officials are charged with scrutinizing these petitions and making sure the signatures are legitimate. This is NOT trivial. It&#39;s based on laws passed by Congress, signed by the president and upheld by the courts. It protects our democratic process. You are justifying cheating, especially by &#8220;progressive minority candidates.&#8221; It is NOT OK to cheat in the electoral process. It is NOT fascism to insist that the process be legitimate. I don&#39;t see how you can rationalize gaming the system while criticizing Obama for using the system legitimately. Amazing.</p>
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		<title>By: Jazz</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/20466/obamas-change-shouting-at-the-ocean/comment-page-1/#comment-142250</link>
		<dc:creator>Jazz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 19:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Understood, runasim. Fair enough.</description>
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		<title>By: Jazz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jazz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 19:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Understood, runasim. Fair enough.</description>
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		<title>By: Silhouette</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/20466/obamas-change-shouting-at-the-ocean/comment-page-1/#comment-142248</link>
		<dc:creator>Silhouette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 19:17:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My fear is WHAT KIND of change Obama has in mind when he thought nothing of destroying four minority progressive candidates to represent that district in Chicago?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;When questioned about his behavior then he had this to say:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;********&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;&quot;I gave some thought to … should people be on the ballot even if they didn&#039;t meet the requirements,&quot; he said. &quot;My conclusion was that if you couldn&#039;t run a successful petition drive, then that raised questions in terms of how effective a representative you were going to be.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Asked whether the district&#039;s primary voters were well-served by having only one candidate, Obama smiled and said: &quot;I think they ended up with a very good state senator.&quot;~ Barack Obama.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Source: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-070403obama-ballot%2C0%2C1843097.story&quot;&gt;http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-07...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;*******&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;He went and fine-tooth combed each and every single signature on petitions that those candidates didn&#039;t even have direct contact in supervising the collection of signatures.  Just a couple of non-verifiable addresses and they were out.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Note: no one challenged HIS petitions.  I&#039;m sure each and every single signer had a valid address....&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I hope his idea of &quot;changing politics&quot; doesn&#039;t mean he reserves the right to nitpick minority progressive ideals if we don&#039;t have every &quot;t&quot; crossed and &quot;i&quot; dotted in our pleas to be heard and given a fair shake.  I&#039;m sure he&#039;ll change his proven track record and give us our due...as long as it doesn&#039;t interfere with his overweening aspirations to power...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;*shudder*&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;BTW runasim, I VOTED FOR BARACK OBAMA in the primaries.  I now regret that decision.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;People make mistakes.  That&#039;s what humans do.  But humans also learn from them and make new decisions.  That&#039;s why I NOW support the best job applicant for President of the United States in the pivotal 2008 election.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;She has eight years&#039; experience in the Oval Office standing at the side of and de facto chief advisor to the then Commander In Chief.  She&#039;s never sued an election committee in an attempt to eliminate other candidates running against her based on signature errors on petitions.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;She runs on her own merits, hard-earned and gritty, tenacious.  She doesn&#039;t  shamelessly borrow her image from Susan B. Anthony or Harriet Tubman to get by on..like someone does from the late Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.  She comes to us raw, unwrapped for viewing and dissection as candidate for the world&#039;s most important employment.  We intend to look at her qualifications and track record.  What a novel idea when considering an applicant for a job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My fear is WHAT KIND of change Obama has in mind when he thought nothing of destroying four minority progressive candidates to represent that district in Chicago?</p>
<p>When questioned about his behavior then he had this to say:</p>
<p>********</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8221;I gave some thought to … should people be on the ballot even if they didn&#39;t meet the requirements,&#8221; he said. &#8220;My conclusion was that if you couldn&#39;t run a successful petition drive, then that raised questions in terms of how effective a representative you were going to be.&#8221;</p>
<p>Asked whether the district&#39;s primary voters were well-served by having only one candidate, Obama smiled and said: &#8220;I think they ended up with a very good state senator.&#8221;~ Barack Obama.</p>
<p>Source: <a href="http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-070403obama-ballot%2C0%2C1843097.story">http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-07&#8230;</a><br />*******</p>
<p>He went and fine-tooth combed each and every single signature on petitions that those candidates didn&#39;t even have direct contact in supervising the collection of signatures.  Just a couple of non-verifiable addresses and they were out.  </p>
<p>Note: no one challenged HIS petitions.  I&#39;m sure each and every single signer had a valid address&#8230;.</p>
<p>I hope his idea of &#8220;changing politics&#8221; doesn&#39;t mean he reserves the right to nitpick minority progressive ideals if we don&#39;t have every &#8220;t&#8221; crossed and &#8220;i&#8221; dotted in our pleas to be heard and given a fair shake.  I&#39;m sure he&#39;ll change his proven track record and give us our due&#8230;as long as it doesn&#39;t interfere with his overweening aspirations to power&#8230;</p>
<p>*shudder*</p>
<p>BTW runasim, I VOTED FOR BARACK OBAMA in the primaries.  I now regret that decision.</p>
<p>People make mistakes.  That&#39;s what humans do.  But humans also learn from them and make new decisions.  That&#39;s why I NOW support the best job applicant for President of the United States in the pivotal 2008 election.  </p>
<p>She has eight years&#39; experience in the Oval Office standing at the side of and de facto chief advisor to the then Commander In Chief.  She&#39;s never sued an election committee in an attempt to eliminate other candidates running against her based on signature errors on petitions.  </p>
<p>She runs on her own merits, hard-earned and gritty, tenacious.  She doesn&#39;t  shamelessly borrow her image from Susan B. Anthony or Harriet Tubman to get by on..like someone does from the late Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.  She comes to us raw, unwrapped for viewing and dissection as candidate for the world&#39;s most important employment.  We intend to look at her qualifications and track record.  What a novel idea when considering an applicant for a job.</p>
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		<title>By: Silhouette</title>
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		<dc:creator>Silhouette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 19:17:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My fear is WHAT KIND of change Obama has in mind when he thought nothing of destroying four minority progressive candidates to represent that district in Chicago?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;When questioned about his behavior then he had this to say:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;********&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;&quot;I gave some thought to … should people be on the ballot even if they didn&#039;t meet the requirements,&quot; he said. &quot;My conclusion was that if you couldn&#039;t run a successful petition drive, then that raised questions in terms of how effective a representative you were going to be.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Asked whether the district&#039;s primary voters were well-served by having only one candidate, Obama smiled and said: &quot;I think they ended up with a very good state senator.&quot;~ Barack Obama.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Source: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-070403obama-ballot%2C0%2C1843097.story&quot;&gt;http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-07...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;*******&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;He went and fine-tooth combed each and every single signature on petitions that those candidates didn&#039;t even have direct contact in supervising the collection of signatures.  Just a couple of non-verifiable addresses and they were out.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Note: no one challenged HIS petitions.  I&#039;m sure each and every single signer had a valid address....&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I hope his idea of &quot;changing politics&quot; doesn&#039;t mean he reserves the right to nitpick minority progressive ideals if we don&#039;t have every &quot;t&quot; crossed and &quot;i&quot; dotted in our pleas to be heard and given a fair shake.  I&#039;m sure he&#039;ll change his proven track record and give us our due...as long as it doesn&#039;t interfere with his overweening aspirations to power...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;*shudder*&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;BTW runasim, I VOTED FOR BARACK OBAMA in the primaries.  I now regret that decision.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;People make mistakes.  That&#039;s what humans do.  But humans also learn from them and make new decisions.  That&#039;s why I NOW support the best job applicant for President of the United States in the pivotal 2008 election.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;She has eight years&#039; experience in the Oval Office standing at the side of and de facto chief advisor to the then Commander In Chief.  She&#039;s never sued an election committee in an attempt to eliminate other candidates running against her based on signature errors on petitions.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;She runs on her own merits, hard-earned and gritty, tenacious.  She doesn&#039;t  shamelessly borrow her image from Susan B. Anthony or Harriet Tubman to get by on..like someone does from the late Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.  She comes to us raw, unwrapped for viewing and dissection as candidate for the world&#039;s most important employment.  We intend to look at her qualifications and track record.  What a novel idea when considering an applicant for a job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My fear is WHAT KIND of change Obama has in mind when he thought nothing of destroying four minority progressive candidates to represent that district in Chicago?</p>
<p>When questioned about his behavior then he had this to say:</p>
<p>********</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8221;I gave some thought to … should people be on the ballot even if they didn&#39;t meet the requirements,&#8221; he said. &#8220;My conclusion was that if you couldn&#39;t run a successful petition drive, then that raised questions in terms of how effective a representative you were going to be.&#8221;</p>
<p>Asked whether the district&#39;s primary voters were well-served by having only one candidate, Obama smiled and said: &#8220;I think they ended up with a very good state senator.&#8221;~ Barack Obama.</p>
<p>Source: <a href="http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-070403obama-ballot%2C0%2C1843097.story">http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-07&#8230;</a><br />*******</p>
<p>He went and fine-tooth combed each and every single signature on petitions that those candidates didn&#39;t even have direct contact in supervising the collection of signatures.  Just a couple of non-verifiable addresses and they were out.  </p>
<p>Note: no one challenged HIS petitions.  I&#39;m sure each and every single signer had a valid address&#8230;.</p>
<p>I hope his idea of &#8220;changing politics&#8221; doesn&#39;t mean he reserves the right to nitpick minority progressive ideals if we don&#39;t have every &#8220;t&#8221; crossed and &#8220;i&#8221; dotted in our pleas to be heard and given a fair shake.  I&#39;m sure he&#39;ll change his proven track record and give us our due&#8230;as long as it doesn&#39;t interfere with his overweening aspirations to power&#8230;</p>
<p>*shudder*</p>
<p>BTW runasim, I VOTED FOR BARACK OBAMA in the primaries.  I now regret that decision.</p>
<p>People make mistakes.  That&#39;s what humans do.  But humans also learn from them and make new decisions.  That&#39;s why I NOW support the best job applicant for President of the United States in the pivotal 2008 election.  </p>
<p>She has eight years&#39; experience in the Oval Office standing at the side of and de facto chief advisor to the then Commander In Chief.  She&#39;s never sued an election committee in an attempt to eliminate other candidates running against her based on signature errors on petitions.  </p>
<p>She runs on her own merits, hard-earned and gritty, tenacious.  She doesn&#39;t  shamelessly borrow her image from Susan B. Anthony or Harriet Tubman to get by on..like someone does from the late Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.  She comes to us raw, unwrapped for viewing and dissection as candidate for the world&#39;s most important employment.  We intend to look at her qualifications and track record.  What a novel idea when considering an applicant for a job.</p>
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		<title>By: runasim</title>
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		<dc:creator>runasim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 18:52:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jazz, &lt;br&gt;My comment  (6th from the top(  was a response directed at your post and the following:&lt;br&gt;&#039;It&#039;s very hard to dismantle the system when you&#039;re busy running the system.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jazz, <br />My comment  (6th from the top(  was a response directed at your post and the following:<br />&#39;It&#39;s very hard to dismantle the system when you&#39;re busy running the system.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: runasim</title>
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		<dc:creator>runasim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 18:52:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jazz, &lt;br&gt;My comment  (6th from the top(  was a response directed at your post and the following:&lt;br&gt;&#039;It&#039;s very hard to dismantle the system when you&#039;re busy running the system.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jazz, <br />My comment  (6th from the top(  was a response directed at your post and the following:<br />&#39;It&#39;s very hard to dismantle the system when you&#39;re busy running the system.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Jazz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jazz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 18:38:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Going back to the original post, this was not an attack on Obama. Simply noting the truth of the editorial when it says that, while Obama&#039;s intentions to change Washington politics as usual may be heartfelt, it may also well turn out to be impossible.  It&#039;s very hard to dismantle the system when you&#039;re busy running the system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Going back to the original post, this was not an attack on Obama. Simply noting the truth of the editorial when it says that, while Obama&#39;s intentions to change Washington politics as usual may be heartfelt, it may also well turn out to be impossible.  It&#39;s very hard to dismantle the system when you&#39;re busy running the system.</p>
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		<title>By: Jazz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jazz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 18:38:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Going back to the original post, this was not an attack on Obama. Simply noting the truth of the editorial when it says that, while Obama&#039;s intentions to change Washington politics as usual may be heartfelt, it may also well turn out to be impossible.  It&#039;s very hard to dismantle the system when you&#039;re busy running the system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Going back to the original post, this was not an attack on Obama. Simply noting the truth of the editorial when it says that, while Obama&#39;s intentions to change Washington politics as usual may be heartfelt, it may also well turn out to be impossible.  It&#39;s very hard to dismantle the system when you&#39;re busy running the system.</p>
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		<title>By: runasim</title>
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		<dc:creator>runasim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 18:25:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sill,&lt;br&gt;You want Hillary to win?  Boy, do you have the wrong strategy.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Many Democrats already had trouble with her style of attack politics.  You are NOTendearing  Hillary to anyone or convincing anyone to like her better.  You are  actually confirming the worst suspicions and citicisms people have always had about her.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Your heroine showed  an ability to recognize the greater good  above personal interests and displayed tremendous grace when doing so in her concession speech.&lt;br&gt;You are not only huritng Hillary, you are besmirching her legacy among Democrats.&lt;br&gt;With friends like you, Hillary needs no enemies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sill,<br />You want Hillary to win?  Boy, do you have the wrong strategy.</p>
<p>Many Democrats already had trouble with her style of attack politics.  You are NOTendearing  Hillary to anyone or convincing anyone to like her better.  You are  actually confirming the worst suspicions and citicisms people have always had about her.</p>
<p>Your heroine showed  an ability to recognize the greater good  above personal interests and displayed tremendous grace when doing so in her concession speech.<br />You are not only huritng Hillary, you are besmirching her legacy among Democrats.<br />With friends like you, Hillary needs no enemies.</p>
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		<title>By: runasim</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/20466/obamas-change-shouting-at-the-ocean/comment-page-1/#comment-142243</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 18:25:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sill,&lt;br&gt;You want Hillary to win?  Boy, do you have the wrong strategy.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Many Democrats already had trouble with her style of attack politics.  You are NOTendearing  Hillary to anyone or convincing anyone to like her better.  You are  actually confirming the worst suspicions and citicisms people have always had about her.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Your heroine showed  an ability to recognize the greater good  above personal interests and displayed tremendous grace when doing so in her concession speech.&lt;br&gt;You are not only huritng Hillary, you are besmirching her legacy among Democrats.&lt;br&gt;With friends like you, Hillary needs no enemies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sill,<br />You want Hillary to win?  Boy, do you have the wrong strategy.</p>
<p>Many Democrats already had trouble with her style of attack politics.  You are NOTendearing  Hillary to anyone or convincing anyone to like her better.  You are  actually confirming the worst suspicions and citicisms people have always had about her.</p>
<p>Your heroine showed  an ability to recognize the greater good  above personal interests and displayed tremendous grace when doing so in her concession speech.<br />You are not only huritng Hillary, you are besmirching her legacy among Democrats.<br />With friends like you, Hillary needs no enemies.</p>
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