Comments on: Associated Press, Please Dont Fall on Your Sword and Hurt Yourself The Way the NYT Did http://themoderatevoice.com/20461/ap-please-dont-fall-on-your-sword-and-hurt-yourself-the-way-the-nyt-did/ An Internet hub with domestic and international news, analysis, original reporting, and popular features from the left, center, indies, centrists, moderates, and right Mon, 28 May 2012 15:02:18 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: wholesale http://themoderatevoice.com/20461/ap-please-dont-fall-on-your-sword-and-hurt-yourself-the-way-the-nyt-did/comment-page-1/#comment-173992 wholesale Tue, 24 Feb 2009 04:39:29 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/media/blogging/20461/ap-please-dont-fall-on-your-sword-and-hurt-yourself-the-way-the-nyt-did/#comment-173992 The post really nice , i like it ,thanks for sharing,thanks for your post, i will keep read your blog everyday<br><a href="http://www.yocowholesale.com/" rel="nofollow">wholesale clothing</a><br><a href="http://www.yocowholesale.com/" rel="nofollow">wholesale clothing distributors</a><br><a href="http://www.yocowholesale.com/" rel="nofollow">wholesale Korean fashion</a><br><a href="http://www.yocowholesale.com/wholesale-shoes-c-19.html" rel="nofollow">wholesale Shoes</a> The post really nice , i like it ,thanks for sharing,thanks for your post, i will keep read your blog everyday
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]]> By: JillyDybka http://themoderatevoice.com/20461/ap-please-dont-fall-on-your-sword-and-hurt-yourself-the-way-the-nyt-did/comment-page-1/#comment-140663 JillyDybka Thu, 26 Jun 2008 17:36:57 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/media/blogging/20461/ap-please-dont-fall-on-your-sword-and-hurt-yourself-the-way-the-nyt-did/#comment-140663 My husband gets his royalty checks from BMI. :) They're smaller since the Internet. My husband gets his royalty checks from BMI. :) They're smaller since the Internet.

]]> By: archangel http://themoderatevoice.com/20461/ap-please-dont-fall-on-your-sword-and-hurt-yourself-the-way-the-nyt-did/comment-page-1/#comment-140662 archangel Sat, 21 Jun 2008 01:57:49 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/media/blogging/20461/ap-please-dont-fall-on-your-sword-and-hurt-yourself-the-way-the-nyt-did/#comment-140662 i'ts ok, and thanks JB<br><br>dr.e i'ts ok, and thanks JB

dr.e

]]> By: jbailey http://themoderatevoice.com/20461/ap-please-dont-fall-on-your-sword-and-hurt-yourself-the-way-the-nyt-did/comment-page-1/#comment-140661 jbailey Fri, 20 Jun 2008 15:48:15 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/media/blogging/20461/ap-please-dont-fall-on-your-sword-and-hurt-yourself-the-way-the-nyt-did/#comment-140661 Pardon me, Dr. E --<br><br>For addressing you as Dr. Dre. I have rap music on my brain this morning.<br><br>Jerry Pardon me, Dr. E –

For addressing you as Dr. Dre. I have rap music on my brain this morning.

Jerry

]]> By: jbailey http://themoderatevoice.com/20461/ap-please-dont-fall-on-your-sword-and-hurt-yourself-the-way-the-nyt-did/comment-page-1/#comment-140660 jbailey Fri, 20 Jun 2008 15:40:50 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/media/blogging/20461/ap-please-dont-fall-on-your-sword-and-hurt-yourself-the-way-the-nyt-did/#comment-140660 Dr. Dre --<br>I'm going to e-mail you privately a couple of articles from the NY Daily News from about five years ago which deal with the origin and history of BMI and ASCAP. To my knowledge, the articles are correct. The articles explain that BMI opened the doors to music that previously could not be played on radio. Before BMI, country music, Black music, Hispanic music and other grassroot forms of music were largely shut out of radio because the composers could not belong to the other performing right organization, and, therefore, the stations could not legally obtain permission to play the music. Dick Clark said it best: "Prior to BMI's founding, the music business was not readily accessible to newcomers. BMI opened the doors for the young, the black, the country, the non-traditional songwriter. It widened the opportunity for more creative people to participate in the art of music."<br><br>If you will send me your mailing address privately, I will also mail you a booklet titled "The Rise of BMI - 1940 -- 2008." I think you'll find it interesting. Dr. Dre –
I'm going to e-mail you privately a couple of articles from the NY Daily News from about five years ago which deal with the origin and history of BMI and ASCAP. To my knowledge, the articles are correct. The articles explain that BMI opened the doors to music that previously could not be played on radio. Before BMI, country music, Black music, Hispanic music and other grassroot forms of music were largely shut out of radio because the composers could not belong to the other performing right organization, and, therefore, the stations could not legally obtain permission to play the music. Dick Clark said it best: “Prior to BMI's founding, the music business was not readily accessible to newcomers. BMI opened the doors for the young, the black, the country, the non-traditional songwriter. It widened the opportunity for more creative people to participate in the art of music.”

If you will send me your mailing address privately, I will also mail you a booklet titled “The Rise of BMI – 1940 — 2008.” I think you'll find it interesting.

]]> By: archangel http://themoderatevoice.com/20461/ap-please-dont-fall-on-your-sword-and-hurt-yourself-the-way-the-nyt-did/comment-page-1/#comment-140659 archangel Thu, 19 Jun 2008 23:52:47 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/media/blogging/20461/ap-please-dont-fall-on-your-sword-and-hurt-yourself-the-way-the-nyt-did/#comment-140659 I have an email to the writer of an article that states: "BMI also worked in the 1940’s to prevent relegation of certain music to remote stations." Thanks for your email. I'll hope to hear from this writer for clarification: I believe the sentence can read positively or negatively depending on what came before and after. You can always email me privately.<br>dr.e I have an email to the writer of an article that states: “BMI also worked in the 1940’s to prevent relegation of certain music to remote stations.” Thanks for your email. I'll hope to hear from this writer for clarification: I believe the sentence can read positively or negatively depending on what came before and after. You can always email me privately.
dr.e

]]> By: jbailey http://themoderatevoice.com/20461/ap-please-dont-fall-on-your-sword-and-hurt-yourself-the-way-the-nyt-did/comment-page-1/#comment-140658 jbailey Thu, 19 Jun 2008 22:52:53 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/media/blogging/20461/ap-please-dont-fall-on-your-sword-and-hurt-yourself-the-way-the-nyt-did/#comment-140658 Dear Dr. E<br>Thanks for the correction. I have sent you a message separately regarding your request. Although I have been with BMI for only 10 years, I began writing about BMI in 1972 as a newspaper reporter. I have read much of BMI's history over the years and never heard of BMI constraining music flow to radio stations. It would make absolutely no sense to me. After all, BMI was founded in 1939 by a group of radio stations to correct what was considered the unfair practices of ASCAP. Constraining music flow would only limit the revenue BMI could collect for songwriters and stifle the growth of the organization. I can imagine no motive for BMI to do such a thing, but I wasn't around in 1940, so I don't yet have an answer to that charge. I suspect you're confusing the actiivites of ASCAP with BMI. Dear Dr. E
Thanks for the correction. I have sent you a message separately regarding your request. Although I have been with BMI for only 10 years, I began writing about BMI in 1972 as a newspaper reporter. I have read much of BMI's history over the years and never heard of BMI constraining music flow to radio stations. It would make absolutely no sense to me. After all, BMI was founded in 1939 by a group of radio stations to correct what was considered the unfair practices of ASCAP. Constraining music flow would only limit the revenue BMI could collect for songwriters and stifle the growth of the organization. I can imagine no motive for BMI to do such a thing, but I wasn't around in 1940, so I don't yet have an answer to that charge. I suspect you're confusing the actiivites of ASCAP with BMI.

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]]> By: joegandelman http://themoderatevoice.com/20461/ap-please-dont-fall-on-your-sword-and-hurt-yourself-the-way-the-nyt-did/comment-page-1/#comment-140657 joegandelman Thu, 19 Jun 2008 04:48:35 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/media/blogging/20461/ap-please-dont-fall-on-your-sword-and-hurt-yourself-the-way-the-nyt-did/#comment-140657 JBAILEY: I have to add this. If you look at TMV you'll see Dr. E fixed the error. I appreciate that you are a spokesman and we DO fix errors on TMV. But since you said what you said in your last sentence in your comment I as the owner of TMv and a former fulltime journalist must say this:<br><br>I have dealt with a lot of p.r. people and used them in my work extensively when I was a reporter and have graet resepect for them. I am a bit surprised you didn't just email us your personal feelings and left out that sentence. You gave Dr. E NO TIME to respond to you -- you just swiped at her whole post. If you contact a blogger or newspaper person in the future you might wish to forgo those kinds of remarks and simply point out errors and ask for a correction. If you are shocked at the errors, I'm shocked at that sentence since if you had contacted anyone of the assit editors on TMV any one of us would have moved immeidately to correct any errors. If you are p.r. person then you know full well that errors do appear in print and broadcast. Unlike a lot of outlets, we do try to fix them as we see them.<br><br>I appreciate you setting the record straight and only ask that if you contact us again you be kind enough to show us the kind of respect that we try to show others -- and that Dr. E showed you and your company by doing a correction as soon as she learned what was wrong in her post. Your comment was appreciated and welcome; your last sentence in it was NOT. JBAILEY: I have to add this. If you look at TMV you'll see Dr. E fixed the error. I appreciate that you are a spokesman and we DO fix errors on TMV. But since you said what you said in your last sentence in your comment I as the owner of TMv and a former fulltime journalist must say this:

I have dealt with a lot of p.r. people and used them in my work extensively when I was a reporter and have graet resepect for them. I am a bit surprised you didn't just email us your personal feelings and left out that sentence. You gave Dr. E NO TIME to respond to you — you just swiped at her whole post. If you contact a blogger or newspaper person in the future you might wish to forgo those kinds of remarks and simply point out errors and ask for a correction. If you are shocked at the errors, I'm shocked at that sentence since if you had contacted anyone of the assit editors on TMV any one of us would have moved immeidately to correct any errors. If you are p.r. person then you know full well that errors do appear in print and broadcast. Unlike a lot of outlets, we do try to fix them as we see them.

I appreciate you setting the record straight and only ask that if you contact us again you be kind enough to show us the kind of respect that we try to show others — and that Dr. E showed you and your company by doing a correction as soon as she learned what was wrong in her post. Your comment was appreciated and welcome; your last sentence in it was NOT.

]]> By: archangel http://themoderatevoice.com/20461/ap-please-dont-fall-on-your-sword-and-hurt-yourself-the-way-the-nyt-did/comment-page-1/#comment-140656 archangel Wed, 18 Jun 2008 19:54:27 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/media/blogging/20461/ap-please-dont-fall-on-your-sword-and-hurt-yourself-the-way-the-nyt-did/#comment-140656 Dear JillyDybka, that is wonderful news. I've heard about <a href="http://LuLu.com">LuLu.com</a>. I hope you will write on your site about your experience if you havent already... and give us the link here. <br><br>And yes, as an Authors Guild Board member, I am well aware of Bezos grab to be the sole publisher of POD by his press only, or else he wont list a person's ebook or POD book. <br><br>The Authors Guild is pushing back hard, as are other strong groups. ALso, Bezos takes 65% of all sales of Kindle and POD, and if one reads the Amazon forums, we see lack of response on Amazon's part, over and over, to shoddy accounting practices for those who are owed money in this program. <br><br>It may be that an "United Artists" group will develop their own means for online sales on a large site... as movie actors did long ago to be out from under the thumbs of monopolies in the movie industry. <br><br>But, most of all JD, congratulations!<br><br>dr.e Dear JillyDybka, that is wonderful news. I've heard about LuLu.com. I hope you will write on your site about your experience if you havent already… and give us the link here.

And yes, as an Authors Guild Board member, I am well aware of Bezos grab to be the sole publisher of POD by his press only, or else he wont list a person's ebook or POD book.

The Authors Guild is pushing back hard, as are other strong groups. ALso, Bezos takes 65% of all sales of Kindle and POD, and if one reads the Amazon forums, we see lack of response on Amazon's part, over and over, to shoddy accounting practices for those who are owed money in this program.

It may be that an “United Artists” group will develop their own means for online sales on a large site… as movie actors did long ago to be out from under the thumbs of monopolies in the movie industry.

But, most of all JD, congratulations!

dr.e

]]> By: archangel http://themoderatevoice.com/20461/ap-please-dont-fall-on-your-sword-and-hurt-yourself-the-way-the-nyt-did/comment-page-1/#comment-140655 archangel Wed, 18 Jun 2008 19:08:25 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/media/blogging/20461/ap-please-dont-fall-on-your-sword-and-hurt-yourself-the-way-the-nyt-did/#comment-140655 Dear JBaily, also, as I am preparing a post to show this errata as I promised, I have researched some about your company BMI and if you would, I would love to talk to you as you are a spokesperson for BMI. <br><br>If you would send an email to Joe Gandelman asap, our editor in chief, he would forward it to me. I noted that BMI constrained music flow to outlying radio stations in the 1940s, according to some sources. I would like to check this further with you before I write more about BMI. Thanks, and, the posted correction on the first page will be up soon.<br><br>dr.e Dear JBaily, also, as I am preparing a post to show this errata as I promised, I have researched some about your company BMI and if you would, I would love to talk to you as you are a spokesperson for BMI.

If you would send an email to Joe Gandelman asap, our editor in chief, he would forward it to me. I noted that BMI constrained music flow to outlying radio stations in the 1940s, according to some sources. I would like to check this further with you before I write more about BMI. Thanks, and, the posted correction on the first page will be up soon.

dr.e

]]> By: archangel http://themoderatevoice.com/20461/ap-please-dont-fall-on-your-sword-and-hurt-yourself-the-way-the-nyt-did/comment-page-1/#comment-140654 archangel Wed, 18 Jun 2008 18:28:18 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/media/blogging/20461/ap-please-dont-fall-on-your-sword-and-hurt-yourself-the-way-the-nyt-did/#comment-140654 Dear jbaily, I am so sorry. It is corrected ; at 3:30 am in the morning writing the night before and posted the following at about 1:30 a.m., it was a typo. I regret it was my error. It is BMG, not BMI. I will also put an errata up as a post. <br><br>dr.e Dear jbaily, I am so sorry. It is corrected ; at 3:30 am in the morning writing the night before and posted the following at about 1:30 a.m., it was a typo. I regret it was my error. It is BMG, not BMI. I will also put an errata up as a post.

dr.e

]]> By: JillyDybka http://themoderatevoice.com/20461/ap-please-dont-fall-on-your-sword-and-hurt-yourself-the-way-the-nyt-did/comment-page-1/#comment-140653 JillyDybka Wed, 18 Jun 2008 17:09:42 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/media/blogging/20461/ap-please-dont-fall-on-your-sword-and-hurt-yourself-the-way-the-nyt-did/#comment-140653 <a href="http://Amazon.com">Amazon.com</a> is going down the same road. A lot of micropresses, small presses, etc use print-on-demand because it is cheaper. Amazon is now saying you have to use our print-on-demand -- Booksurge-- or else there is no "buy" button on the book's page at Amazon. Read more here if you want <a href="http://www.writersweekly.com/amazon.php">http://www.writersweekly.com/amazon.php</a><br><br>So a lot of small press poetry publishers are no longer going to have a presence on Amazon, etc. <br><br>Peripherally, I just published a book of poetry on <a href="http://Lulu.com">Lulu.com</a> -- you can download it free. Amazon.com is going down the same road. A lot of micropresses, small presses, etc use print-on-demand because it is cheaper. Amazon is now saying you have to use our print-on-demand — Booksurge– or else there is no “buy” button on the book's page at Amazon. Read more here if you want http://www.writersweekly.com/amazon.php

So a lot of small press poetry publishers are no longer going to have a presence on Amazon, etc.

Peripherally, I just published a book of poetry on Lulu.com — you can download it free.

]]> By: jbailey http://themoderatevoice.com/20461/ap-please-dont-fall-on-your-sword-and-hurt-yourself-the-way-the-nyt-did/comment-page-1/#comment-140652 jbailey Wed, 18 Jun 2008 15:49:00 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/media/blogging/20461/ap-please-dont-fall-on-your-sword-and-hurt-yourself-the-way-the-nyt-did/#comment-140652 BMI (Broadcast Music, Inc) is not a publishing company, is not owned by Bertelsmann, and did not buy Napster. Perhaps you're thinking of BMG or EMI. BMI does represent the performing rights of 375,000 songwriters and music publishers, who own 6.5 million musical works, but BMI does not own the music. As a spokesman for BMI, I can assure you that BMI does not see the internet and the flow of information as a threat. There are few companies in the world as savvy and as eager to embrace technology as BMI. With your opening sentence so far from truth, it's impossible to consider seriously the rest of your post. BMI (Broadcast Music, Inc) is not a publishing company, is not owned by Bertelsmann, and did not buy Napster. Perhaps you're thinking of BMG or EMI. BMI does represent the performing rights of 375,000 songwriters and music publishers, who own 6.5 million musical works, but BMI does not own the music. As a spokesman for BMI, I can assure you that BMI does not see the internet and the flow of information as a threat. There are few companies in the world as savvy and as eager to embrace technology as BMI. With your opening sentence so far from truth, it's impossible to consider seriously the rest of your post.

]]> By: Below The Beltway » Blog Archive » More Idiocy From The Associated Press http://themoderatevoice.com/20461/ap-please-dont-fall-on-your-sword-and-hurt-yourself-the-way-the-nyt-did/comment-page-1/#comment-112956 Below The Beltway » Blog Archive » More Idiocy From The Associated Press Wed, 18 Jun 2008 14:36:50 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/media/blogging/20461/ap-please-dont-fall-on-your-sword-and-hurt-yourself-the-way-the-nyt-did/#comment-112956 [...] And McQ is establishing his own rate, $ 1,000 a word for the A.P., free for everyone else. On a more serious side though, one blogger at The Moderate Voice points out that the AP is in danger of making the same mistake that the New York Times did with Times Select: [...] [...] And McQ is establishing his own rate, $ 1,000 a word for the A.P., free for everyone else. On a more serious side though, one blogger at The Moderate Voice points out that the AP is in danger of making the same mistake that the New York Times did with Times Select: [...]

]]> By: Associated Press, Please Dont Fall on Your Sword and Hurt Yourself The Way the NYT Did http://themoderatevoice.com/20461/ap-please-dont-fall-on-your-sword-and-hurt-yourself-the-way-the-nyt-did/comment-page-1/#comment-112954 Associated Press, Please Dont Fall on Your Sword and Hurt Yourself The Way the NYT Did Wed, 18 Jun 2008 10:56:51 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/media/blogging/20461/ap-please-dont-fall-on-your-sword-and-hurt-yourself-the-way-the-nyt-did/#comment-112954 [...] Daily News from India wrote an interesting post today onHere’s a quick excerpt [...] [...] Daily News from India wrote an interesting post today onHere’s a quick excerpt [...]

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