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Virginity: de rigueur or over rated?

01aradio.pngThis morning at 11:00 AM eastern time, I’ll be taking part in a panel discussion on internet radio which is being hosted by Fausta Wertz of Fausta’s Blog. The subject will be (brace yourself…) hymen reconstruction surgery. We’ll be taking a second look at a previous New York Times article and accompanying analysis from National Review Online regarding the growing phenomenon of young women having reconstructive surgery done to “restore their virginity” prior to marriage.

This trend is not in any way unique to young Muslim women in Euorpe and the Arab street. It’s also picking up speed in India among various Hindu sects. (India is still a place where women are treated far worse than either cattle or monkeys in many remote areas, by most accounts.) But it doesn’t stop there. I’ve already found no less than 20 clinics offering the procedure right here in the United States. (Check out the Center for Vaginal Surgery for one example. There are more than half a dozen in New York City alone.) Records and numbers are sketchy since the procedure is generally not covered by insurance and is highly private, but some clinics claim to be performing hundreds per year.

Where did this requirement for a woman to be a virgin on her wedding night come from and how well is it surviving in the modern era? It seems to show up in all the major religions, and women failing to live up to this ideal are instructed to be dealt with in a variety of ways ranging from slavery to death by fire or stoning.

Is this chase for chastity something to be admired or shunned? Has the sexual revolution set us free or dragged us to the gates of hell? And do a few stiches from a surgeon really turn back the clock on your virginity, or are you just fooling yourself and lying to your prospective husband? You be the judge. Leave your comments in this thread. Or, if you’d care to take part in the discussion, join us at 11:00 eastern at Fausta’s show, or using the player below, or call in during the show at (646) 652-2639 to have your say.

  • runasim
    Virginity? The topic took me totally by surprise.

    The disproportionate role sex in general plays in various cultures has never been clearly understood, and the importance of virginity in Muslim and other cultures is just an extentsion of that, with gender differences thrown in. Why aren't men required to be virgins? What part does child bearing and having progeny play?
    Answers to those questions require unraveling thousands of years of sexual history.

    That these are still open questions doesn't surprise me. I am surprised by some of the reactions among Westerners. Immediately, the sexual revolution is brought up as the boogey man for comparison.
    One could as well bring in the evidence from some primitive matriarchal cultures where fatherhood is of no importance and serial sexual partners are the norm.

    In Western cultures, this is, IMO, a clear and unexceptional case of excesses.
    Exercising is good for you, but exercising fanatically, can seriously damage the rest of your life.
    Eating is a necessity, but both overating and undereating can kill you.

    Similarly, promiscuity is both socially and personally disruptive. So is condemnation and punishment for any deviance from the straight and narrow.

    I'd rather see everyone get off the see-saw and stop treating questions related to sex like a religion.
    This is a sociological, as well as a mental and physical health issue.
    Moderation and balance are sorely missing among opionators, even though that's exactly what's required.
  • archangel
    the practice has been around for literally centuries by various means. My grandmother spoke of such practices in villages, tho not of the surgical kind.

    As runasim points out, its roots are many and not modern and not 'cosmetic' per se, and often bandied about as a joke, instead of dealing with why and how women are put at risk in order to please someone else's religious, cultural, or ego's sensibility solely.

    There is a tendency in all of us to say this which is mine has more value, because she/he/ it is pristine... while the rest of you dumb clucks have shopworn goods. Or, in terms of unconscious projection: I must have the pure because of my own impurities...my proof I am in some way worthy despite my own shopworn ways.

    The underlayment to this and to genital mutilation is complex. Additionally, some would take this on as a sexual fetish. Some as a paraphilia. Some as bo-mod. Some, as in circumcision project religiousity onto the practice.

    There's no known science based health reason for not reconstructing, but re-fashioning from other tissue, the appearance of delicate membrane over the introitus, however.

    The surgery is a scant couple centemeters from the urethra, and is not a simple stitch or two, but must be fashioned to allow three other bodily functions to proceed properly as well.

    In middle eastern and african women, wherein hypertrophic scarring is common, there is risk that this surgery, depending on method, will not heal well or disfigure even while achieving some semblance of 'never had a man before."

    Also, it is way different to 'tear' a thin membrane on first coitus, than to tear open scar tissue.

    For some women, however, I can see why they might take on all these risks; for some their very lives could be at stake. That's the part especially that is egregious wrong... that any women's life be at stake regarding the condition of this intimate part of her body.

    There are many women of many different ages who are virginal for life... sweet and smart and for whom most everything is 'first time' ...regardless of how that less than 2.5 centimeters of their bodies is configured.

    That psychological configuration, seems to me, far outdistances surgical 'pretend.'

    dr.e
  • roro80
    Looks like I missed the 11am cutoff for your talk -- how did it go? I'd love to see your take on what was said. A totally fascinating subject, I think, that needs to walk the edge between not criticising those who choose to have this surgery for fear of their safety or reputation, and calling out how scary the system is that makes this even necessary.
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