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Black Conservative Castrati? The “picks” are the problem.

I ran across a new term for my political lexicon today when I read about black conservative castrati in the 2008 election cycle. The author was reflecting on a recent AP report on American black conservatives feeling conflicted over Barack Obama’s candidacy. This resulted in the following screed. (All emphasis is from the author.)

With 90+ percent of black Americans voting Democrat regardless of who the candidate is, it will be bad enough as it is. But I, for one, expect you, black conservative Republican men to have enough balls to stand on principle, not on your emotions. You’ve shown your testicular fortitude by being publicly conservative against a tide of Identity Politics. Don’t start behaving like castrati now.

Stop thinking selfishly. We’re not choosing a President of Black American Dream Fulfillment; we’re choosing a President of the United States.

Our own Dennis Sanders struggled with the very same question this weekend, and it comes on the heels of similar musings from Colin Powell, Armstrong Williams and J.C. Watts, among others. The timing of this was fortuitous for me, as I had just taken the opportunity to talk to an old friend of mine, Carl “T” (last name withheld by request) who has been facing a similar dilemma.

It’s probably worth noting that I’m recounting a conversation which takes place in New York State with a black, conservative Republican. For many analysts, such a meeting is akin to driving your car down the highway and hitting a unicorn. I brought up the subject of the column by Dennis and couldn’t resist asking him if he was thinking of voting for Obama.

No.” I was informed. “Going with Bob Barr.”

My initial reaction, of course, was to show appreciation for anyone who decides to stand up for the viability of third party candidates against the stanglehold which the two main parties hold over the system. But pressing (very carefully) further, I found that Carl had been given reason to be disillusioned this year by both John McCain and Barack Obama.

First, he felt that McCain was a glaring example of how the Republican Party had drifted too far astray and was no longer a truly conservative group at all. I didn’t push the issue, as I had heard it before from other Republicans of all stripes. Obama, on the other hand, had reminded him of the absolute failure of the GOP to really open up to minorities and he was now thinking about leaving the party entirely. He mentioned Colin Powell, Condi Rice and a few other prominent African American figures in government. The problem, he pointed out, was that these people were all “the picks” rather than the choice of the masses. In his mind, the shortcomings of the GOP were not found in the party leadership, the platform or the message. The failure, he felt, was on the part of the voting base.

National leaders, he pointed out, were more than willing to appoint prominent African Americans to high profile positions of power. He saw nothing inconsistent in the party’s message and platform in terms of providing opportunity for minorities. But, he sadly noted, they simply don’t elect black people to higher office. Carl was not blind to the fact that there is not a single black face in Congress for the GOP at this time, nor to the lineup of candidates who were even considered for the Republican nomination. (White guys one and all.)

This is New York,” he pointed out. “Up in Utica we had a very solidly Republican district until 2006. You think we could ever put a black guy in Congress from there today? Not gonna happen.”

I suppose I can see his point. You can have the most inclusive platform imaginable and appoint all the minorities you like to high places. But until you can convince your voters to consider electing more minorities to national office, you’ll probably have trouble bridging that gap. Telling conservative, black men to “grow some balls” and to “do what is right” while challenging their manhood if they stray from the (predominantly white) herd probably won’t do much to close that chasm either. And yes… Obama probably does stand as a stark reminder of that divide.

  • Silhouette
    "Stop thinking selfishly. We’re not choosing a President of Black American Dream Fulfillment; we’re choosing a President of the United States."~From Above Post

    Yes.

    My favorite third-party candidate is a HIllary Clinton write-in.

    Between her and McCain it's a no-brainer. Obama isn't even a slight consideration at this point. I can't believe I voted for him (groan) in the primaries. Live and learn.

    Obama Expatriates: silhouette@suddenlink.net

    *Write-In Hillary Clinton*
  • superdestroyer
    Two of the other problems not mentioned in the article is that virtually all blacks in Congress are elected from majority black districts or districts where there are enough blacks to swing the vote for the black Democratic candidate. The Republicans made a deal with the devil when the support the Democratic party in creating districts that were overwhelmingly black. The Republicans get a few more safe districts and the Democrats get district guaranteed to produce liberal black Democratic politicians. Those solidly black districts discourage blacks from being Republicans, conservatives, or even moderates. thus, Republicans can only produce black candidate from majority white districts.

    The Republicans also have a bad habit of rushing quota black candidate in their development. Michale Steele and Lynn Swann should have run and won lower office before running for state wide office. The idea of quota black like J.C. Watts winning is false. It fails many more times that it succeeds.
  • Silhouette
    I still think propping up a candidate due to their skin color is racism and nothing but.

    We should not be promoting race in any election anywhere and realize we've made it to the 21st Century where people with dark skin must take pride in being measured by their merits and not hand-coddled and given kid-glove treatment and promoted without just cause.

    If I was a person of darker color skin I would consider this extremely demeaning. The message is racist. Think about it. Promoting a "black" just because of their skin color or racial affiliation is the same as saying that their mind and acheivements don't matter.

    *shakes head*. Racism has a million subtle faces.

    Obama Expatriates: silhouette@suddenlink.net

    *Write-In Hillary Clinton*
  • While I can appreciate Silhouette's regrets about the result of the Dem primary (assuming, of course, that this person is not actually just a McCain supporter working for "operation chaos") it seems unlikely that any large number of Conservative Republicans are going to opt for writing in Hillary Clinton's name over McCain.

    As to whether or not people should take historic racial or gender considerations into account when making their selections, I will leave it up to the members of those demographics. I do have to wonder, however, if a Republican woman of conservative leanings decided to write in a vote for Hillary because she wanted to see the first woman president elected, if Silhouette would be objecting as strenuously?
  • Silhouette
    Operation chaos was initiated long ago by the GOP when they sought to prop Obama above Clinton via unfair press coverage.

    Does that sound like a McCain/Gop operative speaking?

    Long ago the democratic party was set to be split apart when the inexperienced Obama was the media (GOP-owned and controlled) doll. Who better to prop up as your opponent than one who is sure to lose. If I was a McCain operative, the last thing I'd be doing is encouraging people to vote for a groundswell idea like Clinton write-in. She has HUGE support and you will see that written in personal, sometimes wobbly, but empowered handwriting in the "Other" box this Fall.

    I think people with dark brown skin would be outraged that their skin tone takes precidence over their qualifications...or in Obama's case, lack thereof.

    I applaud any person with dark skin or even lighter cafe colored skin like me and Obama who stands up to say that they refuse to be promoted or demoted- either form of racism- by the relative darkness of their skin. That's like like promoting a woman over a man for a job based on the color of her hair and the way her hips have a certain curve that men can never acheive.

    When will we get over sexism and racism and look at qualifications? We'd better soon. We're at war, we are running out of fossil fuels, ethanol (from corn formerly used for food) will result in starvation and more wars, health care is a joke or nonexistant. THESE are the issues against which we should measure our candidates.

    CRIPES!

    When it comes to the real issues that will make or break us as a nation over the next four years, I know which of the three major candidates is qualified. Hillary Clinton.

    If I was hiring for a job with the issues at hand, I would ask applicants to leave the race and gender boxes empty, use no names at all and only include their qualifications for the job. Then I could make a clear and concise, intelligent decision on who was best for the job.

    Hillary Clinton.

    Obama Expatriates: silhouette@suddenlink.net

    Write-In Hillary Clinton.
  • it's a free country, silly, do what you want. If you want to erode Obama's support and get a more radical right Supreme Court, that's your choice. I hope that others will put aside their bitterness that their candidate lost (fair or not, she lost). This election is about issues and the candidates have big policy differences. I hope everyone will vote on the issues, and not throw away their votes.
  • runasim
    Whatever Sill's views are, the trolling of blogs to insert her ads is repellent.

    Whatever sympathy I had has been dissipated by the self-indulgent and logic-free temper tantrum.
    Voting for McCain means voting against every policy Hillary supported, so vote as you wish, Sill, but don't pretend this has anything to do with HIllary.
  • pacatrue
    It's an interesting and complex (in the good sense) essay, Jazz, so thanks. I will mention again, as I did in Dennis' post that there might be good reasons to vote for someone due to race or gender that have nothing to do with propping people up, racism, or the like. Namely, someone might think that having a female or non-white President would in and of itself be beneficial to the nation due to its impact on various segments of the population (and of course women are half of the population), its perception abroad (note how many essays from the foreign press have taken Obama's candidacy as a sign of America's progress and a reason to look again at their own politics), and the historical relevance (another firm step in conquering centuries of slavery and segregation). These are valid, good reasons.

    Of course, you then have to balance those reasons against everything else and then see if it is still important enough to decide your vote.

    Anyway, Carl's distinction between appointment and election is very interesting indeed. The only thing I can add currently is that if a certain electoral district is, say, 95% white and 5% black, then there's no evidence of racism if that district almost always elects white representatives. After all, if the district were completely color-blind, only about 5% of the people running for election would be black. More interesting are districts where you have rather large minority populations and yet no minorities are elected. For instance, the South must be, what?, 30% African-American? And yet there has never been a single black Senator since Reconstruction. That's more worrisome.
  • runasim
    Getiing back to castrati,

    I know we are all supposed to vote 'on the issues', but race and gender are also issues as long as they remain unresolved factors in personal and societal life.

    The fanatic Hillary women examplify an issue taken to destructive extremes.
    On the other hand, "When will we get over sexism and racism and look at qualifications?" is a question begging for a follow up: Is there any value in pretending we're past biases and bigotry when we're clearly not?

    There is no doubt Obama will lose votes becasue of his skin color and differentness. That's something we are advised to just suck up.. It's odd, then that voting for him for the same reasons is said to be so much more problematic.

    If a candidate has nothing to offer except the symbolism of race or gender, the choice can and should be easy. Few candidates are so one-dimentional, however, I think making sex or gender one of many factors to consider is just fine, at this point in history. After all, some people vote for much more frivolous reasons than that. Because you'd like to have a beer with him?

    Maybe the real castrati are those who can't admit there is more than one way to demonstrate ownership of balls. when voting.
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