Comments on: Democrats Playing Games With Unemployment Benefits

By: runasim

runasim — Fri, 13 Jun 2008 08:40:10 +0000

My first impression also was one of this being political games.
Thinking of it in terms of a veto-proof vote does alter the picture, however..

Politics is a lot like sports. Strategy is an important component, and it's not always easy to see where strategy ends and trickery begins.

By: NordicAngst

NordicAngst — Fri, 13 Jun 2008 03:36:37 +0000

Key points in these comments:

"I guess the part about Bush threatening to veto the bill doesn't play at all into the attempt to get a veto-proof majority in the house?"

A possible alternate explination.

"Obama's so liberal"

Only to those with rather low standards.

"Can't they simply wait until next year, when they can do largely whatever they want?"

I wouldn't assume to know the outcome of the November election and I'm sure democrats in congress aren't just going to sit around waiting to find out, though I wouldn't mind if this classless poster wanted to take a little time out I wouldn't mind.

By: DLS

DLS — Fri, 13 Jun 2008 01:10:37 +0000

I don't believe this is an example of serious Dem overreach, but my reaction is: Can't they simply wait until next year, when they can do largely whatever they want?

From now until November, with stunts they engage in: Can't they simply wait? (Or are they as childish and unrealistic and impatient as many of their voters, ha ha)

By: DLS

DLS — Fri, 13 Jun 2008 00:10:23 +0000

“Its these kind of stunts that have me worried the Dems are going to waste their golden opportunity to fix things by being in Payback mode.”

They don't seem overconfident to me, but rather just stupid and delusionally ambitious. The left wing and the more highly political Dems in Congress are risking loss of voters if they do this, not only because of that behavior itself, but because since Obama's so liberal it's easy for the GOP and the radio talkers to remind everyone that these are the likely kinds of people Obama will turn loose on America and Americans in his administration as well as opening the Congressional cage door.

By: lurxst

lurxst — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 23:24:51 +0000

I guess the part about Bush threatening to veto the bill doesn't play at all into the attempt to get a veto-proof majority in the house? In the best instances these kind of votes do expose the weakness of the opposition party while still actually fulfilling their legislative intent. Watching republicans now complain about trying to be more fiscally responsible is akin to a homeowner worrying about the water bill while the house is on fire.

By: Slamfu

Slamfu — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 23:01:11 +0000

Voting is too powerful to throw it away. When in doubt, bitchslap the incumbents.

By: pdx632

pdx632 — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 22:12:53 +0000

Any way I can vote “None of the Above” in November?

By: Slamfu

Slamfu — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 20:50:06 +0000

Its these kind of stunts that have me worried the Dems are going to waste their golden opportunity to fix things by being in Payback mode. Pelosi and especially Reid strike me as this type and I'm hoping Obama can rein it in if he wins.