Comments on: Yes, The Sisterhood is Powerful. But It’s Time To Return Those Inaugural Ball Gowns http://themoderatevoice.com/20335/yes-the-sisterhood-is-powerful-but-its-time-to-return-those-evening-gowns/ An Internet hub with domestic and international news, analysis, original reporting, and popular features from the left, center, indies, centrists, moderates, and right Mon, 28 May 2012 13:28:32 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: ball dresses http://themoderatevoice.com/20335/yes-the-sisterhood-is-powerful-but-its-time-to-return-those-evening-gowns/comment-page-1/#comment-112878 ball dresses Fri, 13 Jun 2008 02:38:36 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/at-tmv/newsweek-blogitics/20335/yes-the-sisterhood-is-powerful-but-its-time-to-return-those-evening-gowns/#comment-112878 [...] [...] [...] [...]

]]> By: DLS http://themoderatevoice.com/20335/yes-the-sisterhood-is-powerful-but-its-time-to-return-those-evening-gowns/comment-page-1/#comment-137728 DLS Fri, 13 Jun 2008 00:42:16 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/at-tmv/newsweek-blogitics/20335/yes-the-sisterhood-is-powerful-but-its-time-to-return-those-evening-gowns/#comment-137728 I doubt they'll return their gowns. Many of them at least will probably still want to celebrate Inauguration Day, assuming Obama wins in November. I doubt they'll return their gowns. Many of them at least will probably still want to celebrate Inauguration Day, assuming Obama wins in November.

]]> By: feminist http://themoderatevoice.com/20335/yes-the-sisterhood-is-powerful-but-its-time-to-return-those-evening-gowns/comment-page-1/#comment-112874 feminist Thu, 12 Jun 2008 21:49:03 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/at-tmv/newsweek-blogitics/20335/yes-the-sisterhood-is-powerful-but-its-time-to-return-those-evening-gowns/#comment-112874 [...] from a campaign that was run like a patriarchy. ...How Hillary became &39one of the boys&39 Isthmushttp://themoderatevoice.com/at-tmv/newsweek-blogitics/20335/yes-the-sisterhood-is-powerful-but-its-t...Fast Chat: Terri Garr NewsdayTeri Garr had a solid career in the 1970s and '80s playing ditsy [...] [...] from a campaign that was run like a patriarchy. …How Hillary became &39one of the boys&39 Isthmushttp://themoderatevoice.com/at-tmv/newsweek-blogitics/20335/yes-the-sisterhood-is-powerful-but-its-t…Fast Chat: Terri Garr NewsdayTeri Garr had a solid career in the 1970s and ’80s playing ditsy [...]

]]> By: runasim http://themoderatevoice.com/20335/yes-the-sisterhood-is-powerful-but-its-time-to-return-those-evening-gowns/comment-page-1/#comment-137724 runasim Thu, 12 Jun 2008 21:45:22 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/at-tmv/newsweek-blogitics/20335/yes-the-sisterhood-is-powerful-but-its-time-to-return-those-evening-gowns/#comment-137724 "progressive women who voted for Clinton moving toward supporting McCain." makes no political sense that I can discern.<br>Even putting 'progressive' and McCain" in the same sentence makes no sense..<br>That does not describe the majority of Hillary's supporters dealing with disappointment, obviously.<br><br>Clearly, the women who do make that move can't be thinking about the issues, not even feminist issues, when they try to rationalize it.<br>Either this is a chilfdish spite-your-face decision or there is something about Obama, not related to issues, that they can't abide. I don't even want to speculate about what that might be.<br>If they can be happy with McCan's SCappointments, raises the question of why they supported a Democrat in the first place. <br><br>The sad part is that they are tainting Hillary's legacy at a time when she gained respect from even the most hardened haters of the Clinton brand. “progressive women who voted for Clinton moving toward supporting McCain.” makes no political sense that I can discern.
Even putting 'progressive' and McCain” in the same sentence makes no sense..
That does not describe the majority of Hillary's supporters dealing with disappointment, obviously.

Clearly, the women who do make that move can't be thinking about the issues, not even feminist issues, when they try to rationalize it.
Either this is a chilfdish spite-your-face decision or there is something about Obama, not related to issues, that they can't abide. I don't even want to speculate about what that might be.
If they can be happy with McCan's SCappointments, raises the question of why they supported a Democrat in the first place.

The sad part is that they are tainting Hillary's legacy at a time when she gained respect from even the most hardened haters of the Clinton brand.

]]> By: shaun http://themoderatevoice.com/20335/yes-the-sisterhood-is-powerful-but-its-time-to-return-those-evening-gowns/comment-page-1/#comment-137723 shaun Thu, 12 Jun 2008 21:05:13 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/at-tmv/newsweek-blogitics/20335/yes-the-sisterhood-is-powerful-but-its-time-to-return-those-evening-gowns/#comment-137723 roro80:<br><br>Fair enough. roro80:

Fair enough.

]]> By: roro80 http://themoderatevoice.com/20335/yes-the-sisterhood-is-powerful-but-its-time-to-return-those-evening-gowns/comment-page-1/#comment-137719 roro80 Thu, 12 Jun 2008 20:11:54 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/at-tmv/newsweek-blogitics/20335/yes-the-sisterhood-is-powerful-but-its-time-to-return-those-evening-gowns/#comment-137719 Not fond of ballgowns myself (a charming assumption on your part, though), and I'm quite fond of Obama, looking forward to helping in his campaign. That doesn't mean I think your "joke" about women and ballgowns has any relevance to this topic, and is just basically a gendered stereotype. Using said gendered stereotype (and all the references to those crazed feminists) just seems, well, sexist. <br><br>To be clear: I totally agree that it's self defeating to hold onto any hope of a Clinton presidency, and that is not at all what I'm arguing against.<br><br>I read what you said, and am pointing out that the only quote from the "dilusional and sad" women that you provided since Clinton's concession is from some lady named "Edith". All the other sitations you list (Ferraro, Women's Voices, etc) were from before the primary was over, and therefore don't support your point at all. Your point would make more sense if you had included anything indicating that the progressive women who voted for Clinton are moving toward supporting McCain. I don't believe that to be true. Not fond of ballgowns myself (a charming assumption on your part, though), and I'm quite fond of Obama, looking forward to helping in his campaign. That doesn't mean I think your “joke” about women and ballgowns has any relevance to this topic, and is just basically a gendered stereotype. Using said gendered stereotype (and all the references to those crazed feminists) just seems, well, sexist.

To be clear: I totally agree that it's self defeating to hold onto any hope of a Clinton presidency, and that is not at all what I'm arguing against.

I read what you said, and am pointing out that the only quote from the “dilusional and sad” women that you provided since Clinton's concession is from some lady named “Edith”. All the other sitations you list (Ferraro, Women's Voices, etc) were from before the primary was over, and therefore don't support your point at all. Your point would make more sense if you had included anything indicating that the progressive women who voted for Clinton are moving toward supporting McCain. I don't believe that to be true.

]]> By: shaun http://themoderatevoice.com/20335/yes-the-sisterhood-is-powerful-but-its-time-to-return-those-evening-gowns/comment-page-1/#comment-137715 shaun Thu, 12 Jun 2008 19:19:26 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/at-tmv/newsweek-blogitics/20335/yes-the-sisterhood-is-powerful-but-its-time-to-return-those-evening-gowns/#comment-137715 roro80:<br><br>Sorry you have to take back your gown.<br><br>And nice job of reading right past what I said, which was how self-delusional and sad the women who say that they are standing with Clinton even after she conceded for the sake of feminist solidarity are. roro80:

Sorry you have to take back your gown.

And nice job of reading right past what I said, which was how self-delusional and sad the women who say that they are standing with Clinton even after she conceded for the sake of feminist solidarity are.

]]> By: roro80 http://themoderatevoice.com/20335/yes-the-sisterhood-is-powerful-but-its-time-to-return-those-evening-gowns/comment-page-1/#comment-137714 roro80 Thu, 12 Jun 2008 18:24:29 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/at-tmv/newsweek-blogitics/20335/yes-the-sisterhood-is-powerful-but-its-time-to-return-those-evening-gowns/#comment-137714 (Cue estrogen fueled wrath)<br><br>Oh! Ha ha ha!! I get it!!! WOMEN wear DRESSES! Those silly floosies, I tell you, always more concerned with shopping at Saks than anything else! That's just HILARIOUS!!! <br><br>Um...yeah. Ugh, Shaun, ugh. <br><br>Also: since your post seems to be saying that standing in solidarity with Clinton is innappropriate now that the nominee is decided, maybe you should use quotes from the "obnxious diehards" that have actually happened since she conceded. Some lady named "Edith" cannot exactly speak for all those crazy feminist Clinton-supporters and all their feelings about the idea of voting for Obama. (Cue estrogen fueled wrath)

Oh! Ha ha ha!! I get it!!! WOMEN wear DRESSES! Those silly floosies, I tell you, always more concerned with shopping at Saks than anything else! That's just HILARIOUS!!!

Um…yeah. Ugh, Shaun, ugh.

Also: since your post seems to be saying that standing in solidarity with Clinton is innappropriate now that the nominee is decided, maybe you should use quotes from the “obnxious diehards” that have actually happened since she conceded. Some lady named “Edith” cannot exactly speak for all those crazy feminist Clinton-supporters and all their feelings about the idea of voting for Obama.

]]> By: The Strata-Sphere » Obamabots Are Crude In Victory Against Hillary And Her Supporters http://themoderatevoice.com/20335/yes-the-sisterhood-is-powerful-but-its-time-to-return-those-evening-gowns/comment-page-1/#comment-112866 The Strata-Sphere » Obamabots Are Crude In Victory Against Hillary And Her Supporters Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:02:22 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/at-tmv/newsweek-blogitics/20335/yes-the-sisterhood-is-powerful-but-its-time-to-return-those-evening-gowns/#comment-112866 [...] and you wonder are these people trying to win an election or prop up their insecure male egos?  Check out this victory lap for Obama: Like radio waves reaching earth from some cosmic calamity millennia ago, the yarbling of Hillary [...] [...] and you wonder are these people trying to win an election or prop up their insecure male egos?  Check out this victory lap for Obama: Like radio waves reaching earth from some cosmic calamity millennia ago, the yarbling of Hillary [...]

]]> By: Ginny_in_CO http://themoderatevoice.com/20335/yes-the-sisterhood-is-powerful-but-its-time-to-return-those-evening-gowns/comment-page-1/#comment-137710 Ginny_in_CO Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:26:56 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/at-tmv/newsweek-blogitics/20335/yes-the-sisterhood-is-powerful-but-its-time-to-return-those-evening-gowns/#comment-137710 Just a motivational idea. The refunded money from the ball gowns could be sent to pay off her campaign debt.<br><br>And one more time. How can anyone think that a guy married to Michelle Robinson Obama, with two young daughters, will not be a strong advocate for women's issues?<br><br>Take it to the bank. Just a motivational idea. The refunded money from the ball gowns could be sent to pay off her campaign debt.

And one more time. How can anyone think that a guy married to Michelle Robinson Obama, with two young daughters, will not be a strong advocate for women's issues?

Take it to the bank.

]]> By: shaun http://themoderatevoice.com/20335/yes-the-sisterhood-is-powerful-but-its-time-to-return-those-evening-gowns/comment-page-1/#comment-137707 shaun Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:18:40 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/at-tmv/newsweek-blogitics/20335/yes-the-sisterhood-is-powerful-but-its-time-to-return-those-evening-gowns/#comment-137707 Yeah, Mr. Jazz. You're the guy who left with my extra-large Vegan Tofu Special pie and left me with your lousy Meat Lovers Delight. Grrrrrrrr-ump. Yeah, Mr. Jazz. You're the guy who left with my extra-large Vegan Tofu Special pie and left me with your lousy Meat Lovers Delight. Grrrrrrrr-ump.

]]> By: Jazz http://themoderatevoice.com/20335/yes-the-sisterhood-is-powerful-but-its-time-to-return-those-evening-gowns/comment-page-1/#comment-137706 Jazz Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:48:31 +0000 http://themoderatevoice.com/at-tmv/newsweek-blogitics/20335/yes-the-sisterhood-is-powerful-but-its-time-to-return-those-evening-gowns/#comment-137706 Ok, I know this was a serious topic, but coming from some small, dark, mean spirited portion of my shriveled little soul, I must admit I was laughing through a large portion of reading it. :-) Some of your metaphors are hilarious, though obviously you are about to bring a whole boat load of estrogen fueled wrath on your head.<br><br>Oh.,.. and for the record, ladies, I don't even know Shaun. Just ran into him here while waiting for my pizza to be ready. Nothing to see here... I'm moving along. Ok, I know this was a serious topic, but coming from some small, dark, mean spirited portion of my shriveled little soul, I must admit I was laughing through a large portion of reading it. :-) Some of your metaphors are hilarious, though obviously you are about to bring a whole boat load of estrogen fueled wrath on your head.

Oh.,.. and for the record, ladies, I don't even know Shaun. Just ran into him here while waiting for my pizza to be ready. Nothing to see here… I'm moving along.

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