Comments on: Why Hillary Lost (Guest Voice)

By: katiec

katiec — Fri, 13 Jun 2008 15:08:44 +0000

Great article. As a strong supporter of womens rights, I was eventually turned
off by Hillarys campaign. Being a fighter is fine, but being a dirty fighter is
not. Had she and Bill not taken the anything to win tactic, the outcome of
the Democratic nomination might have been different.
Barack Obama handled her attacks with dignity. The Clintons are solely
responsible for their loss.

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By: GreenDreams

GreenDreams — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 23:45:20 +0000

SD, you failed the test, didn't you. I did too. Point made.

By: superdestroyer

superdestroyer — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 23:37:37 +0000

GreenDreams,

If the Democrats really want non-equal treatment they should not have passed the civil rights act as written. It specifically forbids quotas. Of course, the Demcratic Party just ignores those parts of the act

Since 1979, the courts have been consistent in striking down separate and unequal provisions. Yet, the Democratic Party keeps promoting them because its bring in the black vote withouth negative impacting the rich whites who send their children to schools like Sidwell Friends, St albans, or the Chicago Lab school.

Also, if blacks really want to improve thei plight, the first suggetion would be to stop acting like stereotypes. I sure that the white male beating beating by a gang of black tennagers really felt that blacks do not have the same opprotunities as whites. See http://wbal.com/stories/templates/smith_show.as….

I also love how people defend racial discrimination on the part of the government by screaming racism. If blacks want different rights than everyone else, then pass a constitutional amendment. Until then, the government must treat everyone the same.

By: GreenDreams

GreenDreams — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 22:38:25 +0000

SD, AA (affirmative action) exists because we still have a long way to go to overcome our national prejudice. Blacks simply do not have the opportunity that whites do, in terms of quality of education, job interviews and offers, high school and college graduation, job grade and status, fairness in the judicial system, freedom from racial profiling and harrassment ("driving while black" for instance). Beneficiaries of AA, such as Colin Powell, disagree with you about AA, and I assure you that YOU are racially prejudiced. Prove it's not true. Go here and take the test. I guarantee you'll fail. Even blacks raised here have cultural bias against blacks, and women have cultural bias against women. It's universal in our culture and we have a long way to go yet.

By: runasim

runasim — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 22:10:20 +0000

Wonderful post.

I only wish some of these insights could be exported to the blogosphere.

By: superdestroyer

superdestroyer — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 20:59:32 +0000

However, Senator Obama is not really a uniter. He should have dominated when he became the apparent winner. Yet, he has decided that giving special interest groups in the Democratic party is more important than being a uniter.

As the first black presidential candidate, he should have come out against quotas and AA. He did the opposite and proposed a massive increase in the program. Definitely not a uniting idea when over 60% of Americans oppose AA to begin with.

By: Apt604

Apt604 — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 20:56:08 +0000

Great piece. I had the same reaction when I heard HRC talk about what a fighter she is. Not only can it sound condescending, but more importantly, it just isn't the way things work in this town – and of all people, surely a sitting U.S. Senator knows that better than anyone.

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Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:00:17 +0000

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By: Ginny_in_CO

Ginny_in_CO — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:44:55 +0000

This is an attitude that is becoming more and more prevalent. Understanding that our culture values and uses adversarial negotiation almost exclusively. That it is less productive or effective, and more distructive, than collaborative and creative approaches.

Jim Rough, "Society's Breakthrough" approaches this from a community standpoint.

Others have covered it from an individual or communications perspective.

"Nonviolent Communication: A Language of Life" Marshall B. Rosenberg and Arun Gandhi

My sister lived in Tokyo for a number of years and told us about a neighbor couple who were both professionals and spoke several languages. They had developed the habit early in their marriage of arguing in English - because Japanese does not allow that kind of communication. Just heard today that the longest lifespan is in Japan - 83 years.