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	<title>Comments on: Gallup: Obama Gains Support Among Women Voters After Clinton Exit</title>
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		<title>By: mlhradio</title>
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		<dc:creator>mlhradio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 02:25:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More poll results that Obama is doing well among women and other groups that the media has painted as &#039;weaknesses&#039; for Obama:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Among women: 52% Obama to 33% McCain&lt;br&gt;Among Hispanics:  62% to 28%&lt;br&gt;Among Catholics:  47% to 40%&lt;br&gt;Among blue-collar workers; 47% to 42%&lt;br&gt;Among white women:  44% to 38%&lt;br&gt;Among people who voted for Clinton in the primaries:  61% to 19%!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;More info here: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25096620&quot;&gt;http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25096620&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More poll results that Obama is doing well among women and other groups that the media has painted as &#39;weaknesses&#39; for Obama:</p>
<p>Among women: 52% Obama to 33% McCain<br />Among Hispanics:  62% to 28%<br />Among Catholics:  47% to 40%<br />Among blue-collar workers; 47% to 42%<br />Among white women:  44% to 38%<br />Among people who voted for Clinton in the primaries:  61% to 19%!</p>
<p>More info here: <a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25096620">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25096620</a></p>
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		<title>By: mlhradio</title>
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		<dc:creator>mlhradio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 02:21:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DLS - McCain voted in the senate to support Bush 100% of the time in 2008 (year to date), and 95% of the time in 2007. &lt;a href=&quot;http://arcanebliss.newsvine.com/_news/2008/06/08/1552947-mccain-voted-with-bush-95-of-the-time-in-2007&quot;&gt;http://arcanebliss.newsvine.com/_news/2008/06/0...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DLS &#8211; McCain voted in the senate to support Bush 100% of the time in 2008 (year to date), and 95% of the time in 2007. <a href="http://arcanebliss.newsvine.com/_news/2008/06/08/1552947-mccain-voted-with-bush-95-of-the-time-in-2007">http://arcanebliss.newsvine.com/_news/2008/06/0&#8230;</a></p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 01:47:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I&#039;ve noted, any ageist remark by the Obama crowd backfires, as it&#039;s Obama, not McCain, who&#039;s over his head due to age or lack of experience, if one of them were unfit for this reason.  (I believe both are competent.)  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What also backfires among wiser people is every time the Obama crowd, or Obama, utters the lie that McCain is a Bush clone or continuation.  It backfires even more than the age attack, because intelligent people know that McCain would not threaten a third Bush term but Obama does threaten a second Carter term or first McGovern term.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And I wonder what Clinton voters think of such superficial, failed attacks by the Obama camp after they (Clinton voters) as well as Clinton have been subjected to such vicious abuse by that same camp.  (The Left shows itself as the body of hate, even if it lies about the Right to try to evade the charge.)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Time to advance or progress or &quot;change&quot; [tm] from the superficial and offensive!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I&#39;ve noted, any ageist remark by the Obama crowd backfires, as it&#39;s Obama, not McCain, who&#39;s over his head due to age or lack of experience, if one of them were unfit for this reason.  (I believe both are competent.)  </p>
<p>What also backfires among wiser people is every time the Obama crowd, or Obama, utters the lie that McCain is a Bush clone or continuation.  It backfires even more than the age attack, because intelligent people know that McCain would not threaten a third Bush term but Obama does threaten a second Carter term or first McGovern term.</p>
<p>And I wonder what Clinton voters think of such superficial, failed attacks by the Obama camp after they (Clinton voters) as well as Clinton have been subjected to such vicious abuse by that same camp.  (The Left shows itself as the body of hate, even if it lies about the Right to try to evade the charge.)</p>
<p>Time to advance or progress or &#8220;change&#8221; [tm] from the superficial and offensive!</p>
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		<title>By: mlhradio</title>
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		<dc:creator>mlhradio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 00:25:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amanda is quite correct -- I believe that the vast majority of Clinton supporters are pragmatic.  Despite the stereotype that has been portrayed by the media, most Clinton supporters are smart, they are reasonable, they are realistic.  Many of them are still running pretty raw on emotion following the rollercoaster over the past couple of months, but give it a few weeks and I think that most Clinton supporters will realize that voting for Obama really is within their best interests.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sure, many of Clinton&#039;s ardent supporters are quite disappointed right now, but I am confident that they will come to realize that Obama is a better &#039;second choice&#039; than McCain, or better than not voting at all.  (Obama wasn&#039;t even my first choice -- he was third on my list).  We are beginning to see the start of that slow movement already, but it is waaay early in the general election cycle (3 days down, 150-plus to go) -- so don&#039;t expect too much too soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amanda is quite correct &#8212; I believe that the vast majority of Clinton supporters are pragmatic.  Despite the stereotype that has been portrayed by the media, most Clinton supporters are smart, they are reasonable, they are realistic.  Many of them are still running pretty raw on emotion following the rollercoaster over the past couple of months, but give it a few weeks and I think that most Clinton supporters will realize that voting for Obama really is within their best interests.</p>
<p>Sure, many of Clinton&#39;s ardent supporters are quite disappointed right now, but I am confident that they will come to realize that Obama is a better &#39;second choice&#39; than McCain, or better than not voting at all.  (Obama wasn&#39;t even my first choice &#8212; he was third on my list).  We are beginning to see the start of that slow movement already, but it is waaay early in the general election cycle (3 days down, 150-plus to go) &#8212; so don&#39;t expect too much too soon.</p>
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		<title>By: mbelardo</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 23:49:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dude, drink the kool aid and give  us a break!!!</description>
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		<title>By: Gallup: Obama Gains Support Among Women Voters After Clinton Exit - The Moderate Voice &#124; Hillary Clinton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gallup: Obama Gains Support Among Women Voters After Clinton Exit - The Moderate Voice &#124; Hillary Clinton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 23:37:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Gallup has good news for Democratic presumptive Presidential nominee Barack Obama: a new poll shows that since Senator Hillary Clinton suspended her campaign and endorsed him he has started picking up support among woman voters and broadened his more info [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Gallup has good news for Democratic presumptive Presidential nominee Barack Obama: a new poll shows that since Senator Hillary Clinton suspended her campaign and endorsed him he has started picking up support among woman voters and broadened his more info [...]</p>
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		<title>By: janinedm</title>
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		<dc:creator>janinedm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 22:03:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sigh. way to face the most important issues facing a country at war and in recession: Hillary Clinton.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sigh. way to face the most important issues facing a country at war and in recession: Hillary Clinton.</p>
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		<title>By: roro80</title>
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		<dc:creator>roro80</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:00:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was a pretty strong Clinton supporter, but I certainly don&#039;t take the stance that crat3 does.  For those who voted for Clinton because of her history of advocating for women&#039;s and children&#039;s issues, Obama is a clear 2nd-best choice.  For those who liked Clinton&#039;s progressive politics, Obama is a clear 2nd-best choice.  Sure, there are some hurt feelings, but I believe that most people who were invested enough in this contest to feel hurt probably know that there are small and distinguishing differences between Obama and Clinton, but there are huge and fundamental differences between McCain and Clinton.  Calling Obama &quot;unelectable&quot; is pretty rediculous at this point, as well, considering the data in this very post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was a pretty strong Clinton supporter, but I certainly don&#39;t take the stance that crat3 does.  For those who voted for Clinton because of her history of advocating for women&#39;s and children&#39;s issues, Obama is a clear 2nd-best choice.  For those who liked Clinton&#39;s progressive politics, Obama is a clear 2nd-best choice.  Sure, there are some hurt feelings, but I believe that most people who were invested enough in this contest to feel hurt probably know that there are small and distinguishing differences between Obama and Clinton, but there are huge and fundamental differences between McCain and Clinton.  Calling Obama &#8220;unelectable&#8221; is pretty rediculous at this point, as well, considering the data in this very post.</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:43:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oddly enough crat, it&#039;s your commentary that sounds cultish.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Look, I think people will vote in their own best interests.  For the most part, Americans are fairly pragmatic and they&#039;ll each pick the candidate who they think will solve problems they care about.  A lot of Clinton&#039;s supporters are very conservative by Democratic Party standards, so it&#039;s not terribly surprising that some would rather support McCain than Obama at this juncture.  When you look at some of the key groups that voted for Clinton in the primaries - older women, blue collar workers, non-college educated, etc. - you find a lot of social conservatives.  McCain&#039;s pro-life tendencies, military background, and plain-spoken attitude (among other things) are going to appeal to these groups.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;However, it is horribly disingenuous to claim that the Democratic primary was rigged or that Obama somehow stole this election from Clinton.  She was not entitled to the candidacy and frankly, the attitude that we somehow owed it to her is part of why so many Democrats didn&#039;t vote for her.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You have to face the facts here - Michigan and Florida SHOULD NOT HAVE COUNTED AT ALL.  Their legislatures broke the rules knowing the consequences they would face and every candidate, Clinton included, supported the decision by the DNC to strip their delegates.  It was incredibly gracious (or stupid) of the DNC to even consider seating those delegates.  But even with the compromise solution in Michigan and Florida, Obama still won the race.  He had more popular votes, he won more states, and he had more delegates.  He played the game by the rules everyone agreed to at the start and now you&#039;re pissed that he beat your chosen candidate at a game that should have been a breeze for her.  When you (and the rest of the malcontents) are done sucking on your sour grapes, maybe you&#039;ll see that and be able to vote based on the issues instead of nonsense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oddly enough crat, it&#39;s your commentary that sounds cultish.</p>
<p>Look, I think people will vote in their own best interests.  For the most part, Americans are fairly pragmatic and they&#39;ll each pick the candidate who they think will solve problems they care about.  A lot of Clinton&#39;s supporters are very conservative by Democratic Party standards, so it&#39;s not terribly surprising that some would rather support McCain than Obama at this juncture.  When you look at some of the key groups that voted for Clinton in the primaries &#8211; older women, blue collar workers, non-college educated, etc. &#8211; you find a lot of social conservatives.  McCain&#39;s pro-life tendencies, military background, and plain-spoken attitude (among other things) are going to appeal to these groups.</p>
<p>However, it is horribly disingenuous to claim that the Democratic primary was rigged or that Obama somehow stole this election from Clinton.  She was not entitled to the candidacy and frankly, the attitude that we somehow owed it to her is part of why so many Democrats didn&#39;t vote for her.</p>
<p>You have to face the facts here &#8211; Michigan and Florida SHOULD NOT HAVE COUNTED AT ALL.  Their legislatures broke the rules knowing the consequences they would face and every candidate, Clinton included, supported the decision by the DNC to strip their delegates.  It was incredibly gracious (or stupid) of the DNC to even consider seating those delegates.  But even with the compromise solution in Michigan and Florida, Obama still won the race.  He had more popular votes, he won more states, and he had more delegates.  He played the game by the rules everyone agreed to at the start and now you&#39;re pissed that he beat your chosen candidate at a game that should have been a breeze for her.  When you (and the rest of the malcontents) are done sucking on your sour grapes, maybe you&#39;ll see that and be able to vote based on the issues instead of nonsense.</p>
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		<title>By: Forgiven : Post Politics: Political News and Views in Tennessee</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:37:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: crat3</title>
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		<dc:creator>crat3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:33:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fear mongering and bashing of John McCain is an act to counter the mounting surge of protest against the mistreatment of Sen. Clinton by the DNC leadership.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Really, there&#039;s no need for Sen. Clinton supporters to fear McBush. There will be a Democratic Congress to parry any agenda of a &quot;third Bush term&quot; and provide leadership on issues important to women  for only four years. In 2012, Sen. Clinton will be the presidential candidate to get America back on track.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In coercing the exit of Sen. Clinton, the corrupt and rigged Democratic Party gave Sen. Clinton supporters the only viable choice to support McCain. With Sen. Clinton&#039;s forced exit, the White House and &quot;unity&quot; are a pipe dream for the corrupt and rigged Democratic Party.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;When the Republican attack machine gets into full swiftboat gear on cult leader Obama, the poll numbers won&#039;t be looking pretty.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sen. Clinton supporters will not surrender in &quot;unity&quot; to the cult powers of Obama. Sen. Clinton supporters will campaign and vote for McCain in swing states Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, and Florida; a loss in any two states means Obama&#039;s defeat in Nov. I will volunteer and vote for McCain in a swing state.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Obama stole the nomination with MI and FL shenanigans, and de facto Obama surrogate House Speaker Nancy Pelosi rigged the nomination for Obama. Messiah Obama is unqualified and inexperienced, with no record of consensus building; simply he is unelectable. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sen. Clinton should be the Democratic nominee with solutions of real change and a new direction in getting America back on track. She won the popular vote; she is a consensus builder who was the best qualified and the strongest presidential candidate to win the general election hands down. The corrupt and rigged Democratic Party dashed an easy landslide victory with Sen. Clinton for a crushing defeat with Obama.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fear mongering and bashing of John McCain is an act to counter the mounting surge of protest against the mistreatment of Sen. Clinton by the DNC leadership.</p>
<p>Really, there&#39;s no need for Sen. Clinton supporters to fear McBush. There will be a Democratic Congress to parry any agenda of a &#8220;third Bush term&#8221; and provide leadership on issues important to women  for only four years. In 2012, Sen. Clinton will be the presidential candidate to get America back on track.  </p>
<p>In coercing the exit of Sen. Clinton, the corrupt and rigged Democratic Party gave Sen. Clinton supporters the only viable choice to support McCain. With Sen. Clinton&#39;s forced exit, the White House and &#8220;unity&#8221; are a pipe dream for the corrupt and rigged Democratic Party.</p>
<p>When the Republican attack machine gets into full swiftboat gear on cult leader Obama, the poll numbers won&#39;t be looking pretty.  </p>
<p>Sen. Clinton supporters will not surrender in &#8220;unity&#8221; to the cult powers of Obama. Sen. Clinton supporters will campaign and vote for McCain in swing states Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, and Florida; a loss in any two states means Obama&#39;s defeat in Nov. I will volunteer and vote for McCain in a swing state.</p>
<p>Obama stole the nomination with MI and FL shenanigans, and de facto Obama surrogate House Speaker Nancy Pelosi rigged the nomination for Obama. Messiah Obama is unqualified and inexperienced, with no record of consensus building; simply he is unelectable. </p>
<p>Sen. Clinton should be the Democratic nominee with solutions of real change and a new direction in getting America back on track. She won the popular vote; she is a consensus builder who was the best qualified and the strongest presidential candidate to win the general election hands down. The corrupt and rigged Democratic Party dashed an easy landslide victory with Sen. Clinton for a crushing defeat with Obama.</p>
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		<title>By: high end party</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:53:56 +0000</pubDate>
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