Comments on: Like Bush Jr., Legitimacy Will Be ‘Obama’s Dilemma’

By: the wall between the us and mexico

the wall between the us and mexico — Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:22:19 +0000

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By: aba23

aba23 — Tue, 10 Jun 2008 12:47:21 +0000

Maybe Senator Clinton would make the better president, considering she appears to be able to convince so many opinion-makers to accept (or at least repeat) her spin on objective facts that any fair audience would reject absolutely. Nevertheless, I'll cast my lot with reality.

By: StockBoySF

StockBoySF — Tue, 10 Jun 2008 07:36:26 +0000

Obama certainly followed the rules of the Democratic primary more than Hillary. Knowing the rules and following them was, I would argue, one of Obama's biggest strengths. After all, even though it was Hillary who tried to change to outcome of the Democratic primary by having the DNC revisit the FL and MI rules that her own campaign helped write. But once it was evident after the fact that the rules she helped write were not in her favor she tried to rewrite them.

Obama may be tainted, but it's Hillary's doing- since she pressed the point and cried "disenfranchisement" to stir up her supporters! If Hillary hadn't made such an issue of it, then no one else would have either.

Obama even gave her more delegates than he got from those two contests, and gave her bragging rights that she won those two states. But who knows how many more people would have voted for Obama in MI if his name had been on the ballot.

By: runasim

runasim — Tue, 10 Jun 2008 03:04:08 +0000

It all boils down to the fact that one-man-one-vote does not necessarily result in equal representaiton. It can result in a permanent minority, excluded from decision making forever.

That's why the Dem primaries are complicated, and that's why we have an electoral college.

Reforms are certainly possible, maybe even laudable.
But all problems can not be solved by simple rule changes. It would replace one set of problems with another set. What has to be assesed is the relative number and seriousness of the new problems.

By: unclejoe40

unclejoe40 — Tue, 10 Jun 2008 01:50:23 +0000

there is no constitutional amendment how a party much choose its nominee…shoot, they couldve flipped a coin, and it wouldve been just as legitimate

in bush v gore, the supremes became involved in a decision that was not theirs to make

By: GreenDreams

GreenDreams — Tue, 10 Jun 2008 00:42:55 +0000

legitimacy – lawfulness by virtue of being authorized or in accordance with law

The DNC rules are the law for nominating candidates. If we don't like the rules, we can (and should) change them. But til then, the rules rule, just like obeying THE law.