Ah such endearing words to those of us who support Hillary Clinton. We are now Rush Limbaugh clones. Good one.

I don't think this is what you are saying, but it's the best I've got so far.

My point I thought was just that Obama and Clinton policy-wise agree most of the time, so that supporters of one should support the other when their candidate is gone. I am guessing that you see something completely different in my posts here.

DLS, that was my point. Obama and Clinton have similar platforms and so a Clinton supporter working to undermine Obama now that Clinton is out of the race is working to undermine Clinton herself.

But I'm not sure who the “congrats” is directed to.

How many of them really, really will vote for McCain? Few. It's hardly the same as the childish rabid anti-war part of the Obama crowd who would be the first among all who aren't doing so already, who would choose to vote for Ralph Nader.

That means undermining Obama's platform, too. They're the same. Congrats.

I've been wondering also, about the makeup of the ex-Hillary, now McCain voters.
I'm sure it's not a monolithic group, and the reasons very.
I'm wondering anew about Hillary's 'hard working white workers; constituency and her popularity among OLDER women.
How much of her support came from the 'never a black Muslim' crowd?

I found the way Hillary played up to McCain very strange,as it's acknowldged by many right wingers that Hillary as the Dem candidate is a great energizer for the GOP base and moivator for donatioons to McCain. What did she think she was doing with that, since helping herself meant also helping McCain? This couldn't have been a get Obama at any price strategy between the two of them, could It?

The things under the surface are fascinating, but I think they're bad for you (quoting Carlin).

Lol, I went to check out the Hillaryis44 site. Basically an attack Obama site that is registered under DomainbyProxy.com out of AZ. Click on their Obama section and you get bout 10 pages of innuendo slamming him, click on the Why Hillary? section and you get nothing, except for a button to donate cash to the site. I'm calling them a GOP shill site.

plants/shills, cal them what you will.

I am very proud to see all the support that Obama has received from all races. What's interesting is that during his speech on Tuesday he did not say he was the first African-American to win the nomination. I think that's great because he is not running as an African-American. He's running as a citizen of teh United States to be president. I think if he had based his campaign on race (“I'm the first African-American man to be the party's nominee”) then that might cause some voters to have second thoughts.

However far this country has come in race relations, there are still problems and no doubt some people will vote for McCain because he is white. Many voters may not give that as a reason, but it's still a reality.

Lastly, if Hillary Clinton wanted to show true support for Obama and the Dems, then she would not allow her name to be associated with these “Hillary Clinton Supporters for McCain” groups. If those folks truly were Hillary supporters then they would back her and her decisions. For these groups to use Hillary's name just undermines the Democratic Party. Though I don't mind if there are groups called, “Democrats for McCain”.

It's one thing for a voter (Dem, Rep., etc.) to vote for McCain because they prefer his policies, but it's another thing for a Hillary supporter to vote for McCain because they have a case of sour grapes and want to “get back” at the Dem. Party because they didn't get what they wanted.

If they really want to have the US send its sons and daughters for the foreseeable future to fight and die in a war that takes much needed money from the US and our own needs, (or any of the other positions McCain has taken) then let them vote for McCain. Even though I fully expect some of these Hillary supports to vote for McCain, it'll be interesting to see how long this steam actually lasts.

Don't worry — the overwhelming majority of Clinton supporters are smart, they are reasonable, they are realistic. Many of them are running on raw emotions right now, but give them some time, and they will soon realize that voting for McCain would be the same as betraying Clinton and everything that she stands for. There's a lot of talk about Clinton supporters so angry and disappointed that they are willing to vote against their best interests purely out of spite, but I don't buy it. We're just in the heat of the moment, and the election if months away. Give it some time.

But the sin is that the Clinton campaign has nurtured these ill feelings toward Obama, lovingly fertilizing them with the manure of their “arguments,” telling her supporters that the election was somehow being stolen from Sen. Clinton. That Clinton's own faults as a candidate were not of her making, but were really due to misogyny, or conspiracy, or “disenfranchisement,” or … whatever the argument of the day was. They fed it, watered it, and shined artificial light on it in places like hillaryis44, No Quarter, clintonforum, taylormarsh, and talkleft.

Never mind that she has been a nationally-known brand for more than 16 years. That she and her husband, more than any other team in the Democratic Party, have controlled the Party levers of access and power for that same period. That she had all the money, and hundreds of delegates lined up before the first vote was cast. That she had her pick of the “best” Democratic strategists that her name and money could buy. That until she lost in Iowa, she had been considered, for years, the inevitable nominee of the Party whenever she inevitably decided to run.

The nomination contest was exceedingly close, and if it hadn't been for her early mistakes and inability to quickly recover from them, she certainly could have won. That a minority of her staunchest supporters are so disillusioned as to now vote against much of what she has spent her life working for, out of pure spite in many cases, is a sad reflection on them, as well as their candidate's failed strategy more than of Obama's own flaws.

“Supreme Court.”

Neither, they are puppets of the GOP, and will say anything at any given moment to steer the electorate to their goals. I bet even they were surprised that after so many years of demonizing her they could get so many of their listeners to do an about face and support Hillary Clinton when they thought it could affect the nomination to a weaker candidate.