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How Obama And Clinton Will Likely End Democratic Primaries (UPDATE 3)

So are we now close to the endgame in the seemingly-endless Democratic primaries? Or will it go all the way to the Denver convention in August, with supporters on each side of the nearly evenly divided Democratic Party continuing to be increasingly irritated and frustrated with the other side as Republicans watch the spectacle with bigger and bigger smiles?

Yesterday’s decision at the DNC, which gave the Clinton campaign some of what it wanted in terms of Michigan and Florida delegates but not its actual demands, ended up being the decision that many on the DNC reportedly actually wanted.

And now the predictions and questions have started. Will Clinton start to ease her campaign to a close or suspend it this week? Will she withdraw? Will she fight on in Denver? Will Obama make a big victory speech this week if, as expected, he’s within a hair of the nomination or over the top by the end of the week in pledged delegates and more superdelegates come out for him? Or will he make a more modest pitch?

The Telegraph reports
that there’s an Obama effort behind the scenes to offer Clinton a “graceful” exit — one that notably avoids asking her to run as Obama’s Veep:

Hillary Clinton will be offered a dignified exit from the presidential race and the prospect of a place in Barack Obama’s cabinet under plans for a “negotiated surrender” of her White House ambitions being drawn up by Senator Obama’s aides.

The former First Lady would get the chance to pilot Mr Obama’s reforms of the American healthcare system if she agrees to clear the path to his nomination as Democratic presidential candidate.

Senior figures in the Obama camp have told Democrat colleagues that the offer to Mrs Clinton of a cabinet post as health secretary or to steer new legislation through the Senate will be a central element of their peace overtures to the New York senator.

Not inviting her to be his running mate is not an oversight:

Despite pressure from some Clinton allies, Mr Obama and his advisers do not wish to ask her to be his vice-presidential running mate. “They will talk to her,” one Democrat strategist close to senior figures in the Obama camp told The Sunday Telegraph. “They will give her the respect she deserves. She will get something to do with health care, a cabinet post or the chance to lead the legislation through the Senate.”

Another Democrat who has discussed strategy with friends in the Obama inner circle said that Mr Obama was openly considering asking Mrs Clinton to join his cabinet, alongside two other former presidential rivals: John Edwards, who is seen as a likely attorney general; and Joe Biden, who is a leading contender to become Secretary of State.

Mr Obama hinted at the plan last week. “One of my heroes is Abraham Lincoln,” he said. “Lincoln basically pulled in all the people who had been running against him into his cabinet because whatever personal feelings there were, the issue was ‘how can we get this country through this time of crisis?’ And I think that has to be the approach that one takes.”

If Obama and Clinton could pull something like this off, it would go a long way towards not just unifying the Democratic Party but making the Democrats more attractive to independents and to moderate and ‘disgruntled” (to use the White House’s favorite word) Republicans. It would show that Obama could start a process of not just intra-party unification but ideological unification — bringing together strands of the Democratic Party that veer center, center left and center right (depending on the issue).

Even so, the New York Times notes that there’s no clear exit “roadmap” in sight for the Demmies — but that Clinton is a realist and could conceivably pull back as early as this week:

Still, despite the fireworks, Mrs. Clinton’s associates said she seemed to have come to terms over the last week with the near certainty that she would not win the nomination, even as she continued to assert, with what one associate described as subdued resignation, that the Democrats are making a mistake in sending Mr. Obama up against Senator John McCain, the presumptive Republican nominee.

Her associates said the most likely outcome was that she would end her bid with a speech, probably back home in New York, in which she would endorse Mr. Obama. Mrs. Clinton herself suggested on Friday that the contest would end sometime next week.

But that is not a certainty; Mr. Obama’s announcement on Saturday that he would leave his church was just another reminder of how events continue to unfold in the race. She has signaled her ambivalence about the outcome, continuing to urge superdelegates to keep an open mind and consider, for example, the number of popular votes she has won. Gov. Phil Bredesen of Tennessee, a superdelegate who has been at the forefront of calling for uncommitted Democrats to make a choice soon after the last vote, said in an interview that Mrs. Clinton called him last week and urged him to “keep an open mind until the convention.”

(SEE UPDATE BELOW)

However, there’s a danger here for the Clinton campaign. A lot of people wonder why the Clinton campaign is so insistent about waiting until the convention – and some are filling in the blanks.

If an earth-shattering item about Obama just happens to hit the Drudge Report before the convention (especially if it hits in a way that the Obama campaign doesn’t have enough time to respond and deal with it) many Obama supporters and seasoned news media types will suspect and perhaps even directly point the finger at the Clinton campaign as the source due to the Clinton campaign’s reported relationship with the Drudge website. That would mean Clinton would find authentic party unity difficult — and, if she won the White House, she’d take office as a polarizing figure with very little of a safety net of goodwill should she run into trouble.

UPDATE: A pro-Clinton blog is predicting a rumored tape that shows Michelle Obama saying some things (she is alleged to be talking about ‘whitey’) at the Obamas’ former Trinity church will surface..and promises more news on it by Monday…one day before two primaries Obama is favored to win. If this becomes a big story either due to a post that whips through the Internet and is picked up by the mainstream media — or if a dramatic video surfaces on Drudge — a) would it be enough to derail Obama’s candidacy and b) could it cause a backlash since, if a tape such as this exists and surfaces the day before a primary, the political intent would be so clear?

And Obama? ABC’s Political Radar reports that he hopes to wrap it up by this week and won’t wait for an official declaration from the Clinton campaign to point out he has the delegate votes, if he gets them:

Obama’s campaign expects to win around 38 delegates in the final three contests of Puerto Rico, South Dakota, and Montana. If he hits that mark, it would leave him 30 superdelegates away from his party’s nod.

The Obama campaign is pushing superdelegates to come on board by Tuesday so that Obama can claim his party’s presidential nomination when he speaks that evening at the Xcel Energy Center in St. Paul, Minn.

The site was chosen because it is the same place where Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., will formally receive the GOP’s presidential nomination in early September.

Asked if Obama would wait to get a concession call from Clinton before claiming the nomination, Dunn said the onus was on Clinton now that the Democratic Party has firmed up the number of delegates needed to claim the party’s nod.

“He’s not going to wait by the phone like a high-school girl waiting for a date,” said Dunn. “That’s not Barack Obama.”

“After Tuesday,” Dunn added, referring to the final contests of South Dakota and Montana, Clinton “can decide how united she wants this party to be.”

Even so, feelings between Clinton and Obama supporters are more tense, in a sense, than feeling between Democrats and Republicans going into the 2008 election.

Just look at the anger and attitude of this Clinton supporter (who was reportedly ejected from the DNC rules committee meeting) in this YouTube that has gotten some 219,000 views so far:
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UPDATE II: This Clinton supporter who was ejected later showed her bruises from being ejected from the meeting.

UPDATE THREE: Developments on the end-race — or non-end race — are moving fast and furious as you read this.
Clinton’s aides say she may appeal:

Aides to Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton say she may appeal yesterday’s decision by the Democratic National Committee to seat delegates from Michigan and Florida with half-votes.

…”There’s been a lot of talk about party unity, let’s all come together and put our arms around each other,” said Clinton advisor Harold Ickes. “I submit to you, ladies and gentlemen, hijacking four delegates is not a good way to start down the path of party unity.”

More Ickes via ABC:

Clinton’s campaign objected to the compromise on Michigan’s delegates because it gave the former first lady four fewer delegates than aides had maintained she was entitled to, prompting new threats to take the fight to the August convention. She trails Obama by more than 170 delegates.

“She will be consulting with people and she will be making the decision later on,” said adviser Harold Ickes, a member of the committee that voted Saturday. He hinted that the 2,118 delegates needed for the nomination may grow.

“But in our view, the final number for the nomination will not be fixed until Michigan is ultimately resolved, but that will depend on what Mrs. Clinton decides to do,” Ickes said on CNN’s “Late Edition.”

  • elrod
    Please be aware that No Quarter has been pushing that "whitey" tape for a very long time. There is no evidence outside of No Quarter that such a tape exists.
  • JSpencer
    I appreciate the frustration and disappointment some of the Clinton supporters are feeling, but at some point before the election most of them will come to realize that voting for McCain would be a classic case of biting off your nose to spite your face. There is plenty of time for a cooling off period.

    By the way, I think the idea of inviting Clinton, Biden, and Edwards into cabinet positions is an excellent one.
  • And now the predictions and questions have started.

    I started my predictions weeks ago. So far I seem to be batting close to 1.000.

    The nomination remains in the hands of the party insiders, the superdelegates. Clinton retains the power to destroy--or enhance--Obama's chances in the general election. He needs her actively and wholly on his side to be able to win in key states and somewhat repair the damage done in Michigan and Florida. She is highly unlikely to give up her Senate seat for a you-can-be-fired cabinet post that would cut her out of the limelight. VP is right out--Obama might as well hire Lucrezia Borgia as his personal masseuse.

    If the Obama campaign wants to actually win in the fall, they're going to have to up their bid. If they want Clinton's vote base, being condescending to the little woman is NOT a good approach.
  • Lynx
    "VP is right out--Obama might as well hire Lucrezia Borgia as his personal masseuse"

    ROFL love it.

    Still, as much as I cringe at the thought, the VP slot might be the only way out for Obama. Why? Because it's the only way Hillary's supporters (or anyone) will believe her to be sincere in campaigning for him. Obama MUST tie Clinton's political future to his own, because as much as I dislike Hillary, she is an unbelievable fighter and will fight hard for him if it means something good for her.
  • I watched a bit of the rules committee meeting, and what I didn't understand was why there was so much anger. Ickes seemed genuinely upset in arguing that 600,000 people who voted in a primary that was declared (in advance) to be meaningless were having their votes "taken away from them". Those in the audience who were yelling and arguing with committee members were worked up into a total frenzy.

    The complaints from protesters seemed to fall into two categories: first, that their votes were being taken away from them (and most of those people weren't from Florida or Michigan) and second, that the Democrats were throwing away the election (followed by chants of "McCain, McCain..."). Since it seems like there must be other reasons I read some of the comments on the Taylor Marsh site, and the posters there just seem to genuinely HATE Obama as they feel he ran a negative smear campaign against Hillary, utilized dirty tactics, and has pulled off a massive con job on those who voted for him.

    Do a significant percentage of Hillary supporters feel this way? My mother voted Hillary, but that vote was due mostly to name-recognition, and given a second chance I'm certain she would vote for Obama. Aside from her I don't know any Clinton voters (I'm in the under-40, college-educated demographic that tilts heavily to Obama), but are there a significant number of Clinton voters who are really this angry about the outcome of the primaries?
  • AustinRoth
    I am waiting.

    Why hasn't Karl Rove been blamed for this fiasco yet?
  • Jim_Satterfield
    Tully, Tully, Tully. Lucrezia would never accept the P.M. slot. She'd insist that her background qualifies her, and only here, to be his personal chef.
  • Jim_Satterfield
    AustinRoth,

    Because it's really the fault of his evil Democratic apprentice, Howard Wolfson.
  • She might insist on bartender, Jim. Less actual work. ;-)
  • Jim_Satterfield
    True, Tully.
  • runasim
    Watching the DNC proceedings, I got the impression that the infamous Pfleger might have hit on a kernel of truth. There does seem to be a feeling of entitlement among Clinton supporters., i.e. 'this is mine.'

    Even if Hillary's fight were totally altruistic and she is just doing what she thinks is best for the D Party (and the country), being right is not a recognized basis for being chosen. There is still the democratic process to get through, and that's why bad presidents take offoce at times.

    Where do they get the sense of entitlement if not from Hillary?. ,
  • StockBoySF
    ryan, just a quick thought on your comment about not understanding the anger at the RBC's meeting yesterday and Ickes...

    Well, it is Hillary who has yet again turned to divisiveness to support her and hurt Obama. Hillary has stoked the flames of anger and resent of her supporters against the DNC and Obama. Hillary agreed with the disposition of the FL and MI races until it became obvious that she needed those states. The only way to get the DNC to re-open the issue and give her more of those delegates she needed was to encourage the "disenfranchisement anger" among her supporters. If she really wanted the votes to count in the first place she would have stood up for those states last year. But she didn't.

    This is yet another example of why I don't support Hillary at all and why so many Americans find her to be divisive and approx. half have said (as of last year before the contests and her actions) that they will not vote for her.

    If Hillary were really interested in party unity and not just her own interests in gaining power, she would stand up sometime before Tuesday and say something like, "The DNC has ruled on the FL and MI contests and reached a decision. It is a great decision and fair to all those involved. It allows FL and MI to have a voice in this historic primary and has also increased the number of my delegates who will be going to Denver to support me. Now we are able to focus our attention on continuing this fight and taking it to the people of Montana and South Dakota. After they vote on Tuesday we will have even more delegates to stand behind me."

    But Hillary needs to say this before Tuesday so her supporters will view the DNC's decision as fair and final. Then when she does finally concede, her "defeat" will be seen as truly what it is, which is that she just didn't have the same support in popular vote or delegates as Obama does.
  • StockBoySF
    "Not inviting her to be his running mate is not an oversight".

    LOL. Joe, that's true... and it's interesting that there are rumors of Biden being Sec. of State and Edwards as AG.

    One of Obama's biggest problems are all those alarming comments made by Wright, his wife Michelle, and others. Plus the whole flag pin lapel flap. Those comments and the attack on Obama's patriotism make people think that Obama's closest advisors (i.e. Wright once was as his pastor) are the lunatic fringe.

    The best way for Obama to deflect this is for him to start naming who will be in his cabinet (not now- probably wait until Sept). Once people see that Obama's cabinet consists of Biden, Edwards, maybe some Republicans, etc. They will see that Obama's advisors are not folks like Wright or folks like Pfleger. I'm not suggesting that Obama name everyone before the election, but he can start. And if he says he'll have Republicans in his cabinet (and names some Repubs before the election), then he solidifies himself as someone who truly wants to work across party lines.
  • metalluk
    I am a lifelong, newly-retired, RI Democrat, white, male, and liberal. Neither race nor gender is important to me in choosing a presidential candidate, though I acknowledge that I would enjoy seeing history made by the election of either a black or female president, provided the candidate met my standards in other respects. I strongly supported Sen. Clinton's candidacy. Am I angry about the outcome? No. Am I disappointed? Thoroughly. Am I disgusted? Yes, that too.
    Up to this point in my life, the Democratic Party has yet to field a nominee for the presidency who I felt was less desirable than the Republican candidate. Part of that is my support, in general, for the principles of the Democratic Party, but even considering only such factors as experience, positions on issues, and leadership qualities, I have always felt that the Democratic nominees offered more. That will apparently change in 2008.
    My problem is not so much Clinton's defeat as Obama's victory. In my opinion, Barack Obama is easily the least qualified and least desirable candidate that the Democratic Party has fielded at any time in my lifetime. He has a paucity of experience, his foreign policy positions are frighteningly neoconservative, he disdains working class Americans, his healthcare plan is inferior, he has no experience in creating or protecting American jobs, and, in fact, has no executive level experience. Prior to his present campaign, he has never been responsible for anything more substantial than a classroom. I am disgusted that the Democratic Party would offer such a weak candidate at such a watershed time in American history.
    If and when Barack Obama sews up the Democratic nomination, I will attach to my car, with some sorrow, a newly ordered bumper-sticker reading "Democrat for John McCain." My vote in November will be based neither on skin color nor bitterness over Clinton's defeat or how the respective campaigns were conducted. My vote will reflect only my best judgment about who among the major party nominees offers the best credentials for the presidency.
  • metalluk - thank you for your insights. One thing that was clear during this primary is that there is a real divide among Democrats in what they are looking for in a candidate. My sense of things is that the Obama supporters are those who believe that Washington is broken and needs an overhaul, and to them Clinton represents more of the same broken political system. The Clinton supporters seem to be those who feel that what is broken in Washington is that the wrong side is in power, and thus are most interested in seeing the person most capable of winning and running the existing Washington machine. Your comments seem to reflect that sentiment if I'm understanding them correctly.

    StockBoySF - I've spent some time over the past week or two reading comments on sites like Taylor Marsh (scary!), DailyKos (some are surprisingly insightful, although bitterly partisan) and a few other sites, and today I read through a number of comments to an article on CNN. The CNN comments were probably most instructive - like metalluk, a lot of Clinton supporters see Obama as completely unfit for the job; the argument is probably valid if you view the Presidency as one person pushing a lot of buttons, so it is up to Obama to make it clear that he views the job of the President not as the one who gets everything done, but as the person who sets the agenda and then puts people in position to get things done. In any case, the view that Obama is unfit for the job leads to the question of "how could he have won and how can we stop it", which in turn leads to some of the wild allegations, anger and win-at-all-costs ugliness that has erupted. In addition, posters on DailyKos rightfully point to the poor behavior of many Obama supporters - a lot of them like Obama but hate the smug, self-righteous, and often insulting way that many of his online supporters act, and that has led to anger that the poor behavior was rewarded with a winning candidate. I'm not sure that this entirely explains the vitriol seen at yesterday's meeting, but it gives some insight into its origin.

    One addition for StockBoySF - I agree that Clinton has fanned the fires with the Michigan / Florida outrage, and will be surprised if all but her most hardcore supporters don't start to abandon ship if the campaign presses on with the dramatics. That said, Clinton is very shrewd, and it's likely that some agreement (such as the health care czar role mentioned by Joe) will be reached to create a graceful end to the current mess.
  • StockBoySF
    ryan, thanks for the comments and insight (both to me and to metalluk).
  • Kathryn
    What I would really like to see, is Harold Ickes asked why, if the outcomes of the Michigan and Florida primaries were so unfair to the people who voted, did he help shape the rules and procedures and PUNISHMENTS that gave us this result? I was flabbergasted when he used the word "gall" yesterday. He has displayed the same type of gall as someone who murder's his parents and asks the court to have mercy on him because he is an orphan.
  • tinafeld
    Apparently Hillary sees the end in sight...she's sending out a hilarious (& fake) resume in pursuit of the Vice Presidency:

    http://www.visualcv.com/cillaryhinton/mypublicv...
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