What businesses did John McCain or Hillary Clinton start?

What f***ing good did it do our country and its economy to have the “CEO President” George W. Bush running things?

Look at Senator Obama. He started his career in Chicago as a community activist trying to get more money from the government. Neither Senator Obama nor his wife strated a business that would create private sector jobs in the black community.

Ah, the black community, so monolithic, right?
i wonder what percentage of the white community are bigots or racists or
devotees of Hollywood starlets., or this or that.

The point is that Rev. Wright and his like have been trying to teach and inspire self-reliance where he found it lacking. Thatt's a bad thing now?

You are arguing against yourself by a) asserting that self-reliance is lacking in the 'black community'. and b) condemming the church that is promoting self-reliance.

We are not in the same white community. I can telll you that, for sure.

A few weeks ago, by chance, I happened on a C-Span segment featuring a teacher and his HS poli-sci class. The teacher, a Jew, veered off on a long tangent about why he hates Germans- not Germans belonging to the Nazi party, not Germans of a certain era,, but all Germans today, now.

The teacher gave a lesson in hate.

Who or what should be condemned? The entire school, the teacher (although he was otherwise excellent in developing analytical thought in the class), the students for not protesing, C-Span for showing this ssegment?
Who should be renounced and rejected?

Or is it different when members of another minoity, other than blacks, still carry the vestiges of old wounds?

I worked in NYC's diamond district for 20 years and was accepted as a very-much-minority Gentile to the extent what we could talk freely about a wide variety of subjects. My closest colleague said one day he would like to strangle all Arab babies at birth. Should I have condemned him, my bosses for hiring him or the entire diamond district?
Instead of that, we talked about it,, learned to understand each other and remain close fiends to this day.

The kind of condemnation you advocate leads to self-perpetuating cycles of back and forth hatred.
What Obama did was to stay, debate Rev. Wright, (as those in the know testify he did) and emerge as his own man, with his own vision of how to go forward while hating no one.

Obama's way is by far the most fruitful, and as I can testify from my own experience, by far the most effective way to get past hatreds..

What percentage of the Trinity Church of Christ work for the government at any level? What percentage of the members at Trinity work for minority set aside contractors?

Also, the way black America views education is very different than they way whites or Asians view education. Black America views education more like the Scarescrow in the Wizard of Ox in that a diploma means you are educated regardless of the actual level of knowledge.

Whatever the TUCC is, it ain't Christian.

i'm not denying that this is a dialog our country needs to have but i'm concerned that this is “obama's baggage”. to give this issue legitimacy we need to discuss it outside of these “obama-pastor” moments. we do these concerns a disservice by tying them to this triviality.

I can't be as even toned as the other comments, becasue I'm just plain mad.
For months these manufactured contorversies have been swirling around, with few knowing what it was they were condemning, and fewer still wanting to know.

True knowledge has been replaced by video clip knowlege, which is wrose than no knowedge at all, in many ways, becasue it meisleads so abysmally. People are left with the impression they know, when, in fact, they know zilch.

The sad, the tragic part, is, that the video clip knowledge is bound to take precedence over sensible analyses. We're a culture still debating evolution, and the 9/11 conspiracy theory still is popular. So, what chance does an understanding of BLack Liberation theology stand?

As JSpencer and ChrisWWW observed the encouraging quality and thoroughness of your post is both refreshing and appreciated.