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		<title>By: mccain not presidential material</title>
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		<dc:creator>mccain not presidential material</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: runasim</title>
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		<description>Nothing convinces me more that Obama is the right choice for President than an attack comment like the one  by JRYSK (above).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks for meking  it so easy to cast my vote for Obama, JRYSK.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing convinces me more that Obama is the right choice for President than an attack comment like the one  by JRYSK (above).</p>
<p>Thanks for meking  it so easy to cast my vote for Obama, JRYSK.</p>
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		<title>By: jrysk</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 16:24:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Evelyn Pringle has just completed her series on Obama at &lt;a href=&quot;http://opednews.com&quot;&gt;opednews.com&lt;/a&gt;. You should review the articles, and then review the discussion of 18 USC 1346 provided, in order to see for what activities Obama will be indicted. Obama&#039;s just an organized crime punk, a flunkey for the Rezko/General Mediterranean/Syrian mafia criminal enterprise. Rezko&#039;s just had another warrant issued for him for gambling fraud in Nevada. I think this is related to his other fraudulent debt--to GE--and is another reason Obama served as a front for the house thing, to shield Tony&#039;s assets. Obama was never interested in buying a house. It is a pure fraud play in which Obama, as always, played the front and the flunkey so Rezko could hide assets. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Won&#039;t it be hilarious to see the looks on the faces of Obama&#039;s STUPID and CORRUPT and IGNORANT supporters when this hyena is indicted along with Blagojevich. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But it tells us one thing: all Obama&#039;s supporters are just as corrupt as he is. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Titles of Pringle&#039;s articles: &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Final Chapter - Curtain Time for Barack Obama Evelyn Pringle 05/22/2008 Curtain Time for Barack Obama - Part V Evelyn Pringle 05/18/2008 &lt;br&gt;Curtain Time for Barack Obama - Part IV Evelyn Pringle 05/16/2008 &lt;br&gt;Curtain Time for Barack Obama - Part III Evelyn Pringle 05/15/2008 &lt;br&gt;Curtain Time for Barack Obama - Part II Evelyn Pringle 05/13/2008 &lt;br&gt;Curtain Time For Barack Obama - Part I Evelyn Pringle 05/12/2008 &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Discussion of 18 USC 1346 from: &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.groom.com/_library/downloads/NAPPAArticle-Feb2006.pdf&quot;&gt;http://www.groom.com/_library/downloads/NAPPAAr...&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This article provides brief guidance as to the manner in which courts have interpreted 18 U.S.C. § 1346, which generally provides that for purposes of federal mail and wire fraud statutes (18 U.S.C. §§ 1341 and 1343, respectively), a “scheme or artifice to defraud” includes a “scheme or artifice to deprive another of the intangible right to honest services.” Specifically, this article examines the manner in which courts have interpreted the broad language of § 1346 in circumstances that do not involve the explicit bribery of public officials. I. Background 18 U.S.C. § 1346 was enacted in 1988, for purposes of reversing the Supreme Court’s decision in McNally v. U.S.,483 U.S. 350 (1987). In McNally, the Supreme Court overruled a long line of lower court decisions by holding that the federal mail and wire fraud statutes did not encompass schemes to defraud citizens of an intangible right to honest government service from pubic officers. Id. at 355. By enacting 18 U.S.C. § 1346, Congress restored “honest services” within the ambit of the federal mail and wire fraud statutes, meaning that a scheme to deprive the public of “honest services” by a public official could be punished as mail or wire fraud (assuming, of course, that such an instrumentality was used as part of the scheme or artifice). II. Judicial Interpretations of the “Honest Services” Fraud A. General Parameters of the Statute Not surprisingly, the majority of cases that have analyzed the “honest services” fraud set forth in 18 U.S.C. § 1346 have involved the bribery of public officials, where the charge under § 1346 is in addition to other charges. However, there have been numerous prosecutions under § 1346 against public officials (and those who have corrupted public officials) for transactions that do not involve outright bribery, but which nonetheless involve the provision of cash or gifts to a public official in exchange for the public official’s exercise of power on behalf of the individual or entity providing the gratuity. Courts have recognized that the term “honest services,” as used in § 1346, is incredibly broad, but the statute has survived repeated challenges asserting that it is unconstitutionally vague, with courts resorting to a “common sense” usage of the phrase “honest services.” In rejecting a constitutional void-for-vagueness challenge to the statute’s wording, one court opined that “[c]oncrete parameters outlining the duty of honest services should not be necessary. . . . The concept of the duty of honest services sufficiently conveys warning of the proscribed conduct when measured in terms of common understanding and practice.” U.S. v. ReBrook, 837 F. Supp. 162, 171 (S.D. W. Va. 1993), aff’d. 58 F.3d 961 (4 th Cir. 1995). Another court demonstrated little patience for the defendant’s void-for-vagueness challenge in the context of a kickback scheme, holding that “[i]t should be plain to ordinary people that offering and accepting large sums of money in exchange for a city councilman’s vote is a type of conduct proscribed by the language of § 1346.” U.S. v. Paradies, 98 F.3d 1266, 1283 (11 th Cir. 1996). Nonetheless, courts have refused to allow § 1346 to be used as a “catch-all” that subjects every unethical or illegal act to federal mail and wire fraud prosecution. See, e.g., U.S. v. Bloom, 149 F.3d 649, 654-56 (7 th Cir. 1998) (noting, inter alia, that “not every breach of fiduciary duty works a criminal fraud”); U.S. v. Welch, 327 F.3d 1081, 1107 (10 th Cir. 2003) (”the right to honest services is not violated by every breach of contract, breach of duty, conflict of interest, or misstatement made in the course of dealing”). Recognizing the difficulty of interpreting the undefined phrase “honest services,” courts have attempted to establish general criteria that must be satisfied to successfully assert an “honest services” fraud claim. One of the leading circuits interpreting the scope of the honest services fraud is the First Circuit Court of Appeals, which held that: First, . . . honest services convictions of public officials typically involve serious corruption, such as embezzlement of public funds, bribery of public officials, or the failure of public decision-makers to disclose conflicts of interest. Second, . . . the broad scope of the mail fraud statute . . . does not encompass every instance of official misconduct that results in the official’s personal gain. Third, and most importantly, . . . the government must not merely indicate wrongdoing by a public official, but must also demonstrate that the wrongdoing at issue is intended to prevent or call into question the proper or impartial performance of the public servant’s official duties. U.S. v. Czubinski, 106 F.3d 1069, 1076 (1 st Cir. 1997) (emphasis added) (internal citations and quotations omitted), (discussing the First Circuit’s prior decision in U.S. v. Sawyer, 85 F.3d 713, 724 (1996). The Seventh Circuit has held that “[m]isuse of office (more broadly, misuse of position) for private gain is the line that separates run of the mill violations of state law fiduciary duty . . . from federal crime.” U.S. v. Bloom, 149 F.3d 649, 655 (7 th Cir. 1998). The court went on to note that “in almost all of the intangible rights cases decided . . . (before McNally or since § 1346), the defendant used his office for private gain, as by accepting a bribe in exchange for official action[,]” but also noted that “[s]ecret conversion of information received in a fiduciary capacity is a form of fraud against the owner of that information.” Id. Accordingly, the Seventh Circuit summarized its test for an honest services fraud as follows: “[a]n employee deprives his employer of his honest services only if he misuses his position (or the information he obtained in it) for personal gain” (emphasis added). Id. at 656-57. ——————————————————————————– The Tenth Circuit has likewise held that cases involving § 1346 “must be read against the backdrop of the mail and wire fraud statutes, thereby requiring fraudulent intent and a showing of materiality.” U.S. v. Welch, 327 F.3d 1081, 1107 (10 th Cir. 2003). However, the Tenth Circuit unequivocally rejected the Seventh Circuit’s position that a public official must seek “personal gain” to violate § 1346, stating that while it was unwilling to “define the exact contours of honest services fraud or the proof necessary to sustain it . . . to require an allegation of intent to personally gain would suggest that [a defendant is] justified in using whatever means necessary to achieve [his or her] goals . . . ,” which the Court was unwilling to do. B. What Constitutes an Honest Services Fraud? As noted above, the language of § 1346 is not helpful in categorizing what specific conduct by a public official is prohibited, and courts have been unwilling to set forth a litany of proscribed acts, instead setting forth general parameters that must be satisfied to successfully assert an honest services fraud. It should be noted, however, that Justice Stevens, in his dissent in McNally (vindicated by Congress’ reversal of McNally), stated the following: In the public sector, judges, State Governors, chairmen of political parties, state cabinet officers, city alderman, Congressmen, and many other state and federal officials have been convicted of defrauding citizens of their right to honest services of their governmental officials. In most of these cases, the officials have secretly made governmental decisions with the objective of benefiting themselves or promoting their own interests, instead of fulfilling their ... &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Posted by: John Ryskamp &#124; May 30, 2008 11:09 AM &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think Obama&#039;s a hosebag too, but that first comment&#039;s a little overlong no? Just a little mention might suffice and avoid editorial blowback. Of course I&#039;ll read it but maybe throttle back a touch.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As for community voting on ideas, I think the self-reinforcing fanboyism that propagates on Digg, and the amount of votes for Linux vs. buyers of Linux at Dell would lead to some toxic advice in politics.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Maybe for a primary, but in a general election a hyper-skewed echo chamber to get ideas from? Ouch. Either offend your most loyal by ignoring their ridiculous ideas, or follow their ideas and alienate the 99.9% of people that would never participate in Oh Boy Obama or any other site like that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Evelyn Pringle has just completed her series on Obama at <a href="http://opednews.com">opednews.com</a>. You should review the articles, and then review the discussion of 18 USC 1346 provided, in order to see for what activities Obama will be indicted. Obama&#39;s just an organized crime punk, a flunkey for the Rezko/General Mediterranean/Syrian mafia criminal enterprise. Rezko&#39;s just had another warrant issued for him for gambling fraud in Nevada. I think this is related to his other fraudulent debt&#8211;to GE&#8211;and is another reason Obama served as a front for the house thing, to shield Tony&#39;s assets. Obama was never interested in buying a house. It is a pure fraud play in which Obama, as always, played the front and the flunkey so Rezko could hide assets. </p>
<p>Won&#39;t it be hilarious to see the looks on the faces of Obama&#39;s STUPID and CORRUPT and IGNORANT supporters when this hyena is indicted along with Blagojevich. </p>
<p>But it tells us one thing: all Obama&#39;s supporters are just as corrupt as he is. </p>
<p>Titles of Pringle&#39;s articles: </p>
<p>Final Chapter &#8211; Curtain Time for Barack Obama Evelyn Pringle 05/22/2008 Curtain Time for Barack Obama &#8211; Part V Evelyn Pringle 05/18/2008 <br />Curtain Time for Barack Obama &#8211; Part IV Evelyn Pringle 05/16/2008 <br />Curtain Time for Barack Obama &#8211; Part III Evelyn Pringle 05/15/2008 <br />Curtain Time for Barack Obama &#8211; Part II Evelyn Pringle 05/13/2008 <br />Curtain Time For Barack Obama &#8211; Part I Evelyn Pringle 05/12/2008 </p>
<p>Discussion of 18 USC 1346 from: </p>
<p><a href="http://www.groom.com/_library/downloads/NAPPAArticle-Feb2006.pdf"></a><a href="http://www.groom.com/_library/downloads/NAPPAAr.." rel="nofollow">http://www.groom.com/_library/downloads/NAPPAAr..</a>.. </p>
<p>This article provides brief guidance as to the manner in which courts have interpreted 18 U.S.C. § 1346, which generally provides that for purposes of federal mail and wire fraud statutes (18 U.S.C. §§ 1341 and 1343, respectively), a “scheme or artifice to defraud” includes a “scheme or artifice to deprive another of the intangible right to honest services.” Specifically, this article examines the manner in which courts have interpreted the broad language of § 1346 in circumstances that do not involve the explicit bribery of public officials. I. Background 18 U.S.C. § 1346 was enacted in 1988, for purposes of reversing the Supreme Court’s decision in McNally v. U.S.,483 U.S. 350 (1987). In McNally, the Supreme Court overruled a long line of lower court decisions by holding that the federal mail and wire fraud statutes did not encompass schemes to defraud citizens of an intangible right to honest government service from pubic officers. Id. at 355. By enacting 18 U.S.C. § 1346, Congress restored “honest services” within the ambit of the federal mail and wire fraud statutes, meaning that a scheme to deprive the public of “honest services” by a public official could be punished as mail or wire fraud (assuming, of course, that such an instrumentality was used as part of the scheme or artifice). II. Judicial Interpretations of the “Honest Services” Fraud A. General Parameters of the Statute Not surprisingly, the majority of cases that have analyzed the “honest services” fraud set forth in 18 U.S.C. § 1346 have involved the bribery of public officials, where the charge under § 1346 is in addition to other charges. However, there have been numerous prosecutions under § 1346 against public officials (and those who have corrupted public officials) for transactions that do not involve outright bribery, but which nonetheless involve the provision of cash or gifts to a public official in exchange for the public official’s exercise of power on behalf of the individual or entity providing the gratuity. Courts have recognized that the term “honest services,” as used in § 1346, is incredibly broad, but the statute has survived repeated challenges asserting that it is unconstitutionally vague, with courts resorting to a “common sense” usage of the phrase “honest services.” In rejecting a constitutional void-for-vagueness challenge to the statute’s wording, one court opined that “[c]oncrete parameters outlining the duty of honest services should not be necessary. . . . The concept of the duty of honest services sufficiently conveys warning of the proscribed conduct when measured in terms of common understanding and practice.” U.S. v. ReBrook, 837 F. Supp. 162, 171 (S.D. W. Va. 1993), aff’d. 58 F.3d 961 (4 th Cir. 1995). Another court demonstrated little patience for the defendant’s void-for-vagueness challenge in the context of a kickback scheme, holding that “[i]t should be plain to ordinary people that offering and accepting large sums of money in exchange for a city councilman’s vote is a type of conduct proscribed by the language of § 1346.” U.S. v. Paradies, 98 F.3d 1266, 1283 (11 th Cir. 1996). Nonetheless, courts have refused to allow § 1346 to be used as a “catch-all” that subjects every unethical or illegal act to federal mail and wire fraud prosecution. See, e.g., U.S. v. Bloom, 149 F.3d 649, 654-56 (7 th Cir. 1998) (noting, inter alia, that “not every breach of fiduciary duty works a criminal fraud”); U.S. v. Welch, 327 F.3d 1081, 1107 (10 th Cir. 2003) (”the right to honest services is not violated by every breach of contract, breach of duty, conflict of interest, or misstatement made in the course of dealing”). Recognizing the difficulty of interpreting the undefined phrase “honest services,” courts have attempted to establish general criteria that must be satisfied to successfully assert an “honest services” fraud claim. One of the leading circuits interpreting the scope of the honest services fraud is the First Circuit Court of Appeals, which held that: First, . . . honest services convictions of public officials typically involve serious corruption, such as embezzlement of public funds, bribery of public officials, or the failure of public decision-makers to disclose conflicts of interest. Second, . . . the broad scope of the mail fraud statute . . . does not encompass every instance of official misconduct that results in the official’s personal gain. Third, and most importantly, . . . the government must not merely indicate wrongdoing by a public official, but must also demonstrate that the wrongdoing at issue is intended to prevent or call into question the proper or impartial performance of the public servant’s official duties. U.S. v. Czubinski, 106 F.3d 1069, 1076 (1 st Cir. 1997) (emphasis added) (internal citations and quotations omitted), (discussing the First Circuit’s prior decision in U.S. v. Sawyer, 85 F.3d 713, 724 (1996). The Seventh Circuit has held that “[m]isuse of office (more broadly, misuse of position) for private gain is the line that separates run of the mill violations of state law fiduciary duty . . . from federal crime.” U.S. v. Bloom, 149 F.3d 649, 655 (7 th Cir. 1998). The court went on to note that “in almost all of the intangible rights cases decided . . . (before McNally or since § 1346), the defendant used his office for private gain, as by accepting a bribe in exchange for official action[,]” but also noted that “[s]ecret conversion of information received in a fiduciary capacity is a form of fraud against the owner of that information.” Id. Accordingly, the Seventh Circuit summarized its test for an honest services fraud as follows: “[a]n employee deprives his employer of his honest services only if he misuses his position (or the information he obtained in it) for personal gain” (emphasis added). Id. at 656-57. ——————————————————————————– The Tenth Circuit has likewise held that cases involving § 1346 “must be read against the backdrop of the mail and wire fraud statutes, thereby requiring fraudulent intent and a showing of materiality.” U.S. v. Welch, 327 F.3d 1081, 1107 (10 th Cir. 2003). However, the Tenth Circuit unequivocally rejected the Seventh Circuit’s position that a public official must seek “personal gain” to violate § 1346, stating that while it was unwilling to “define the exact contours of honest services fraud or the proof necessary to sustain it . . . to require an allegation of intent to personally gain would suggest that [a defendant is] justified in using whatever means necessary to achieve [his or her] goals . . . ,” which the Court was unwilling to do. B. What Constitutes an Honest Services Fraud? As noted above, the language of § 1346 is not helpful in categorizing what specific conduct by a public official is prohibited, and courts have been unwilling to set forth a litany of proscribed acts, instead setting forth general parameters that must be satisfied to successfully assert an honest services fraud. It should be noted, however, that Justice Stevens, in his dissent in McNally (vindicated by Congress’ reversal of McNally), stated the following: In the public sector, judges, State Governors, chairmen of political parties, state cabinet officers, city alderman, Congressmen, and many other state and federal officials have been convicted of defrauding citizens of their right to honest services of their governmental officials. In most of these cases, the officials have secretly made governmental decisions with the objective of benefiting themselves or promoting their own interests, instead of fulfilling their &#8230; </p>
<p>Posted by: John Ryskamp | May 30, 2008 11:09 AM </p>
<p>I think Obama&#39;s a hosebag too, but that first comment&#39;s a little overlong no? Just a little mention might suffice and avoid editorial blowback. Of course I&#39;ll read it but maybe throttle back a touch.</p>
<p>As for community voting on ideas, I think the self-reinforcing fanboyism that propagates on Digg, and the amount of votes for Linux vs. buyers of Linux at Dell would lead to some toxic advice in politics.</p>
<p>Maybe for a primary, but in a general election a hyper-skewed echo chamber to get ideas from? Ouch. Either offend your most loyal by ignoring their ridiculous ideas, or follow their ideas and alienate the 99.9% of people that would never participate in Oh Boy Obama or any other site like that.</p>
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		<title>By: PaulSilver</title>
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		<dc:creator>PaulSilver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 14:02:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While Pres. Bush is the lightning rod, it is the GOP legislators who are the lightning.&lt;br&gt;They are the enablers who allowed the administration&#039;s failures and revealed the real intentions of the conservatives to handicap the government while plundering the treasury.&lt;br&gt;I am putting more money into close House and Senate races than I am giving to Obama.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While Pres. Bush is the lightning rod, it is the GOP legislators who are the lightning.<br />They are the enablers who allowed the administration&#39;s failures and revealed the real intentions of the conservatives to handicap the government while plundering the treasury.<br />I am putting more money into close House and Senate races than I am giving to Obama.</p>
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		<title>By: superdestroyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>superdestroyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 12:54:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t this just the last of the country club republicans going over to where all of the other rich, white people are in the Obama Camaign.  It is amazing how the Obama campaign is beginning to resemble a third world canddiate.  The rich and intellectuals supporting the same candidates as the poorest groups.  Of course, both groups have the same goal in mind: to take advantage of the middle cas much as possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#39;t this just the last of the country club republicans going over to where all of the other rich, white people are in the Obama Camaign.  It is amazing how the Obama campaign is beginning to resemble a third world canddiate.  The rich and intellectuals supporting the same candidates as the poorest groups.  Of course, both groups have the same goal in mind: to take advantage of the middle cas much as possible.</p>
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