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	<title>Comments on: Move To Discredit McClellan For Anti-Bush Memoir Has Begun (UPDATED)</title>
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		<title>By: kritt11</title>
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		<dc:creator>kritt11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 04:36:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whether or not it satisfies the lefties, it is, unfortunately, an apt description of the Bush presidency. He has the added distinction of taking his party with him off the proverbial cliff.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I admit to being a moderate lefty, but can find some positive things to say about past  Republican presidents. Even Reagan at least managed to deal adroitly with Gorbachev and inspired many to new levels of pride in being American. Bush Sr was out of touch with the economy, but was an adept diplomat internationally. So was Nixon, who, incidentally founded the EPA.  Ford was unassuming and very likeable, engendering trust at a touchy time. There is nothing positive to say about W---except for his increase in global Aids funding. He&#039;s not even any good at being a conservative as our deficits prove.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whether or not it satisfies the lefties, it is, unfortunately, an apt description of the Bush presidency. He has the added distinction of taking his party with him off the proverbial cliff.</p>
<p>I admit to being a moderate lefty, but can find some positive things to say about past  Republican presidents. Even Reagan at least managed to deal adroitly with Gorbachev and inspired many to new levels of pride in being American. Bush Sr was out of touch with the economy, but was an adept diplomat internationally. So was Nixon, who, incidentally founded the EPA.  Ford was unassuming and very likeable, engendering trust at a touchy time. There is nothing positive to say about W&#8212;except for his increase in global Aids funding. He&#39;s not even any good at being a conservative as our deficits prove.</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/19952/move-to-discredit-mcclellan-for-anti-bush-memoir-has-begun/comment-page-1/#comment-135915</link>
		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 01:08:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Visiting the far-lefty sites that are happy to report the poll (hardly the quality of a Pew poll, to say the least) of the historians (where are the welfare activists, the labor union officials and union organizers, the environmental activists, and other logical as well as political affiliiates of those who were chosen for this?), we get quotes that satisfies so many of the lefties and far lefties on this (ha) &quot;moderate&quot; site, and could easily have come from many on this site if the language were to be sanitized:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;No individual president can compare to the second Bush[.]  Glib, contemptuous, ignorant, incurious, a dupe of anyone who humors his deluded belief in his heroic self, he has bankrupted the country with his disastrous war and his tax breaks for the rich, trampled on the Bill of Rights, appointed foxes in every henhouse, compounded the terrorist threat, turned a blind eye to torture and corruption and a looming ecological disaster, and squandered the rest of the world’s goodwill. In short, no other president’s faults have had so deleterious an effect on not only the country but the world at large.” &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;“With his unprovoked and disastrous war of aggression in Iraq and his monstrous deficits, Bush has set this country on a course that will take decades to correct[.]  When future historians look back to identify the moment at which the United States began to lose its position of world leadership, they will point—rightly—to the Bush presidency. Thanks to his policies, it is now easy to see America losing out to its competitors in any number of area: China is rapidly becoming the manufacturing powerhouse of the next century, India the high tech and services leader, and Europe the region with the best quality of life.”&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;“Bush does only two things well,” said one of the most distinguished historians.  “He knows how to make the very rich very much richer, and he has an amazing talent for f**king up everything else he even approaches.  His administration has been the most reckless, dangerous, irresponsible, mendacious, arrogant, self-righteous, incompetent, and deeply corrupt one in all of American history.” &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://hnn.us/articles/48916.html%22&quot;&gt;http://hnn.us/articles/48916.html&quot;&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Visiting the far-lefty sites that are happy to report the poll (hardly the quality of a Pew poll, to say the least) of the historians (where are the welfare activists, the labor union officials and union organizers, the environmental activists, and other logical as well as political affiliiates of those who were chosen for this?), we get quotes that satisfies so many of the lefties and far lefties on this (ha) &#8220;moderate&#8221; site, and could easily have come from many on this site if the language were to be sanitized:</p>
<p>&#8220;No individual president can compare to the second Bush[.]  Glib, contemptuous, ignorant, incurious, a dupe of anyone who humors his deluded belief in his heroic self, he has bankrupted the country with his disastrous war and his tax breaks for the rich, trampled on the Bill of Rights, appointed foxes in every henhouse, compounded the terrorist threat, turned a blind eye to torture and corruption and a looming ecological disaster, and squandered the rest of the world’s goodwill. In short, no other president’s faults have had so deleterious an effect on not only the country but the world at large.” </p>
<p>“With his unprovoked and disastrous war of aggression in Iraq and his monstrous deficits, Bush has set this country on a course that will take decades to correct[.]  When future historians look back to identify the moment at which the United States began to lose its position of world leadership, they will point—rightly—to the Bush presidency. Thanks to his policies, it is now easy to see America losing out to its competitors in any number of area: China is rapidly becoming the manufacturing powerhouse of the next century, India the high tech and services leader, and Europe the region with the best quality of life.”</p>
<p>“Bush does only two things well,” said one of the most distinguished historians.  “He knows how to make the very rich very much richer, and he has an amazing talent for f**king up everything else he even approaches.  His administration has been the most reckless, dangerous, irresponsible, mendacious, arrogant, self-righteous, incompetent, and deeply corrupt one in all of American history.” </p>
<p><a href="http://hnn.us/articles/48916.html%22"></a><a href="http://hnn.us/articles/48916.html" rel="nofollow">http://hnn.us/articles/48916.html</a>&#8220;</p>
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		<title>By: DLS</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/19952/move-to-discredit-mcclellan-for-anti-bush-memoir-has-begun/comment-page-1/#comment-135914</link>
		<dc:creator>DLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 00:43:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;McClellan will be appearing on the Today Show Thursday &quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Holding a copy of the book up to the camera, which of course will zoom closely on it so everyone knows what words are on it and what what the cover looks like, of course.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That&#039;ll add to the excitement we&#039;re already seeing on the Left among those with little self-control.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;McClellan will be appearing on the Today Show Thursday &#8220;</p>
<p>Holding a copy of the book up to the camera, which of course will zoom closely on it so everyone knows what words are on it and what what the cover looks like, of course.</p>
<p>That&#39;ll add to the excitement we&#39;re already seeing on the Left among those with little self-control.</p>
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		<title>By: JoyP</title>
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		<dc:creator>JoyP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 21:25:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What talk shows do I listen to?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What talk shows do I listen to?</p>
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		<title>By: Below The Beltway &#187; Blog Archive &#187; When You Don&#8217;t Like The Message, Attack The Messenger</title>
		<link>http://themoderatevoice.com/19952/move-to-discredit-mcclellan-for-anti-bush-memoir-has-begun/comment-page-1/#comment-112636</link>
		<dc:creator>Below The Beltway &#187; Blog Archive &#187; When You Don&#8217;t Like The Message, Attack The Messenger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 17:01:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Gandelman notes that the effort to discredit Scott McClellan has already begun:  Mark Halperin, noting that the book has dominated the morning news/talk shows, has these tidbits: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Gandelman notes that the effort to discredit Scott McClellan has already begun:  Mark Halperin, noting that the book has dominated the morning news/talk shows, has these tidbits: [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ChrisWWW</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChrisWWW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 16:55:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think AR is mostly right. At this point all we have are subtle jabs at McClellan from the Bush circle. Although I wouldn&#039;t be surprised to see the roundhouse kicks soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think AR is mostly right. At this point all we have are subtle jabs at McClellan from the Bush circle. Although I wouldn&#39;t be surprised to see the roundhouse kicks soon.</p>
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		<title>By: AustinRoth</title>
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		<dc:creator>AustinRoth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 16:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe -&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;How exactly do the quotes from &#039;a former SR WH advisor&#039; and Rove you provided rise to the level of &#039;start(ing) to  discredit him and his book&#039;? The only really negative quote about him is from the press itself. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Now, given politics in general, and this WH in particular, it is certainly fair to expect them to go on the offensive, but maybe we should wait until that actually happens to start throwing accusations and labels around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe -</p>
<p>How exactly do the quotes from &#39;a former SR WH advisor&#39; and Rove you provided rise to the level of &#39;start(ing) to  discredit him and his book&#39;? The only really negative quote about him is from the press itself. </p>
<p>Now, given politics in general, and this WH in particular, it is certainly fair to expect them to go on the offensive, but maybe we should wait until that actually happens to start throwing accusations and labels around.</p>
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		<title>By: kritt11</title>
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		<dc:creator>kritt11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 16:00:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If his book contains a pack of lies, let the &#039;truthtellers&quot; in the Bush administration sue McClellan in court for libel.  Somehow, I doubt they&#039;ll choose to do that. Personal and professional attacks and attempts to discredit the &quot;disgruntled ex-employee&quot; fit their longtime pattern, even if it is cowardly and backhanded.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If his book contains a pack of lies, let the &#39;truthtellers&#8221; in the Bush administration sue McClellan in court for libel.  Somehow, I doubt they&#39;ll choose to do that. Personal and professional attacks and attempts to discredit the &#8220;disgruntled ex-employee&#8221; fit their longtime pattern, even if it is cowardly and backhanded.</p>
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		<title>By: daveinboca</title>
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		<dc:creator>daveinboca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 15:57:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe, it&#039;s obvious whom you&#039;re in the tank for.  McClellan obviously fell off a turnip truck long ago &amp; was given a thankless job of facing BDS moonbats like yourself every day. Now, Lil Scott is going to take the money and run!  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Most of the leftie gibberish you swallow whole are at the very least tendentious exaggerations.  And often outright lies.  Like the entire concoction of the Wilson/Plame farce that even the Dems in the Senate couldn&#039;t stomach after hearing Wilson&#039;s testimony.    Joe&#039;s rep in the Foreign Service was as a BS artist, but the Senate saw through his silly sellout.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;ve got some well-watered land down here near Boca I&#039;d like to sell you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe, it&#39;s obvious whom you&#39;re in the tank for.  McClellan obviously fell off a turnip truck long ago &#038; was given a thankless job of facing BDS moonbats like yourself every day. Now, Lil Scott is going to take the money and run!  </p>
<p>Most of the leftie gibberish you swallow whole are at the very least tendentious exaggerations.  And often outright lies.  Like the entire concoction of the Wilson/Plame farce that even the Dems in the Senate couldn&#39;t stomach after hearing Wilson&#39;s testimony.    Joe&#39;s rep in the Foreign Service was as a BS artist, but the Senate saw through his silly sellout.  </p>
<p>I&#39;ve got some well-watered land down here near Boca I&#39;d like to sell you.</p>
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		<title>By: joegandelman</title>
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		<dc:creator>joegandelman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 15:48:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So  it&#039;s all a pack of lies, even though it fits in with some other published accounts of the Bush administration. Let me guess what talk shows you listen to...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So  it&#39;s all a pack of lies, even though it fits in with some other published accounts of the Bush administration. Let me guess what talk shows you listen to&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: JoyP</title>
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		<dc:creator>JoyP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 14:50:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d be sweating too if I was telling a pack of lies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;d be sweating too if I was telling a pack of lies.</p>
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