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	<title>Comments on: Clinton Fatigue: Bill Clinton Lashes Out At Wife Being Treated &#8220;Disrespectfully Just For Running&#8221; (UPDATED)</title>
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		<title>By: runasim</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 06:30:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In a contest for first place in fauz outrages, I don&#039;t who gtes first prize, Clinton or those piling on him.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Whether it&#039;s Hillary, Bill or anyone else, there is a media  (and blog) narrative that feeds on itself and grows to a point where  it acquires a parallel reality of its own.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In the beginning, it was a war between mainstream media,(who were caught up in admiration for  Hillary&#039;s talents), and many blogs  (who threw hissy fits at the mere mention of the Clinton name).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Now, the media and the antagoistic blogs seem to have joined hands  in a united Clinton loathing campaign.  That&#039;s the &#039;they&#039; Bill is referring to,  I would guess, and I think he is not without cause.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Have the Clinton&#039;s said some reprehensible things?  Oh, yes.  Sometimes it&lt;br&gt;has seemed Hillary is secretly working for McCan&#039;s campaign.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;On the other, hand, do the Clintonsa have any reason to believe they would be treated fairly if they played nice?  I don&#039;t see any evidence of that.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It&#039;s much easier for Obama to appear more noble.  That&#039;s the role he chose, and that&#039;s the role largely upheld in  the media and Obama-esque blogs. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Let any Clinton open his mouth, though,  and it seems people don&#039;t  even hear what was said.  The just read from their prpared scripts  of outrage.  Anyone on the receiving end  of this would quite antuarally become a little paranoid themselves and start thinking about &#039;them&#039; .&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Many of the same people who laid the groundwork for this being  an ugly  fight are now SHOCKED that it is.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So, now it&#039;s a oog fight, but  I don&#039;t see any cute puppies  I&#039;d care to adopt.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a contest for first place in fauz outrages, I don&#39;t who gtes first prize, Clinton or those piling on him.</p>
<p>Whether it&#39;s Hillary, Bill or anyone else, there is a media  (and blog) narrative that feeds on itself and grows to a point where  it acquires a parallel reality of its own.</p>
<p>In the beginning, it was a war between mainstream media,(who were caught up in admiration for  Hillary&#39;s talents), and many blogs  (who threw hissy fits at the mere mention of the Clinton name).</p>
<p>Now, the media and the antagoistic blogs seem to have joined hands  in a united Clinton loathing campaign.  That&#39;s the &#39;they&#39; Bill is referring to,  I would guess, and I think he is not without cause.</p>
<p>Have the Clinton&#39;s said some reprehensible things?  Oh, yes.  Sometimes it<br />has seemed Hillary is secretly working for McCan&#39;s campaign.</p>
<p>On the other, hand, do the Clintonsa have any reason to believe they would be treated fairly if they played nice?  I don&#39;t see any evidence of that.</p>
<p>It&#39;s much easier for Obama to appear more noble.  That&#39;s the role he chose, and that&#39;s the role largely upheld in  the media and Obama-esque blogs. </p>
<p>Let any Clinton open his mouth, though,  and it seems people don&#39;t  even hear what was said.  The just read from their prpared scripts  of outrage.  Anyone on the receiving end  of this would quite antuarally become a little paranoid themselves and start thinking about &#39;them&#39; .</p>
<p>Many of the same people who laid the groundwork for this being  an ugly  fight are now SHOCKED that it is.  </p>
<p>So, now it&#39;s a oog fight, but  I don&#39;t see any cute puppies  I&#39;d care to adopt.</p>
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		<title>By: unclejoe40</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 02:51:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i liked him better when he was too busy to talk cuz he was bonkin everything in a skirt....everything he said in that piece is soooooo untruthful...and im being nice, cuz i dont really wanna call him a frickin liar</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i liked him better when he was too busy to talk cuz he was bonkin everything in a skirt&#8230;.everything he said in that piece is soooooo untruthful&#8230;and im being nice, cuz i dont really wanna call him a frickin liar</p>
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		<title>By: test &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Clinton Fatigue: Bill Clinton Lashes Out At Wife Being Treated &#8230;</title>
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		<dc:creator>test &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Clinton Fatigue: Bill Clinton Lashes Out At Wife Being Treated &#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 00:22:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the inventor wrote an interesting post today onHere&#8217;s a quick excerptIf she does get the nomination, Bill Clinton will galvanize the Republican party more than any issue or Hillary Clinton, since it’s clear he will be out on the hustings pushing all of the buttons (”they” are out to get us, &#8230;   Read the rest of this great post here [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the inventor wrote an interesting post today onHere&#8217;s a quick excerptIf she does get the nomination, Bill Clinton will galvanize the Republican party more than any issue or Hillary Clinton, since it’s clear he will be out on the hustings pushing all of the buttons (”they” are out to get us, &#8230;   Read the rest of this great post here [...]</p>
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		<title>By: My new WordPress MU Site &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Clinton Fatigue: Bill Clinton Lashes Out At Wife Being Treated &#8230;</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 23:48:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the inventor wrote an interesting post today onHere&#8217;s a quick excerptIf she does get the nomination, Bill Clinton will galvanize the Republican party more than any issue or Hillary Clinton, since it’s clear he will be out on the hustings pushing all of the buttons (”they” are out to get us, &#8230; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the inventor wrote an interesting post today onHere&#8217;s a quick excerptIf she does get the nomination, Bill Clinton will galvanize the Republican party more than any issue or Hillary Clinton, since it’s clear he will be out on the hustings pushing all of the buttons (”they” are out to get us, &#8230; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ryan</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 23:43:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe - I love this site, but you may be reading a bit too much of Andrew Sullivan lately.  Bill Clinton&#039;s remarks are only noteworthy at this point if they garner media coverage, and it would probably be best NOT to give them that attention.  Obama has for all intents completely wrapped up the nomination, so it would be best as a &quot;moderate voice&quot; to instead focus on less divisive stories that help ignite useful debates on issues rather than simply stirring up passions by reporting the latest words of a sleep-deprived campaign grasping at whatever opportunities still remain to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe &#8211; I love this site, but you may be reading a bit too much of Andrew Sullivan lately.  Bill Clinton&#39;s remarks are only noteworthy at this point if they garner media coverage, and it would probably be best NOT to give them that attention.  Obama has for all intents completely wrapped up the nomination, so it would be best as a &#8220;moderate voice&#8221; to instead focus on less divisive stories that help ignite useful debates on issues rather than simply stirring up passions by reporting the latest words of a sleep-deprived campaign grasping at whatever opportunities still remain to it.</p>
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		<title>By: jchem</title>
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		<dc:creator>jchem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 23:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill Clinton says&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&#039;Clinton also strongly criticized the media, saying that ever since Iowa they have been against his wife, making him feel as though he was living in a “fun house.”&#039;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think I would humbly submit that Bill has been living in a &quot;fun house&quot; since Lewinsky, and probably earlier than that even.  I see this as pure desperation by people who know its over.  Hillary as the victim?  You gotta be kidding me.  I think Joe has provided several links to throw that claim in the washer.  Just go away, HRC!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill Clinton says</p>
<p>&#39;Clinton also strongly criticized the media, saying that ever since Iowa they have been against his wife, making him feel as though he was living in a “fun house.”&#39;</p>
<p>I think I would humbly submit that Bill has been living in a &#8220;fun house&#8221; since Lewinsky, and probably earlier than that even.  I see this as pure desperation by people who know its over.  Hillary as the victim?  You gotta be kidding me.  I think Joe has provided several links to throw that claim in the washer.  Just go away, HRC!!</p>
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		<title>By: StockBoySF</title>
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		<dc:creator>StockBoySF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 22:28:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lot&#039;s of people do not give Obama the respect he is due.  It&#039;s just not Hillary that doesn&#039;t receive respect from many people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lot&#39;s of people do not give Obama the respect he is due.  It&#39;s just not Hillary that doesn&#39;t receive respect from many people.</p>
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		<title>By: zooom</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 21:48:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hillary has been given bad media from race to gender, and anything else the media can toss in.  I strongly believe that this shows how poorly our country conducts themselves.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Then we hear from another peanut gallary former President Carter.  GEE! and what did he do for this country? &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Since the media played the &quot;race and gender&quot; card to the hilt.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I keep asking myself, that if we Hillary was a black female running against Obama, would this be happening? Doubt it, the media wouldnt touch that with a 10 foot pole.  But she isn&#039;t a black female, she is who she is, and once again it shows just how hard it is for any female to compete and have the respect .&lt;br&gt;Our country hasn&#039;t moved forward at all, it&#039;s a mess.&lt;br&gt;Obama  just isn&#039;t ready and if if the people of the USA would just look with better eyes, and stop playing into the smoke and mirror game they would see that she does make more sense then Obama.  He has been giving great lip service to everyone, and the media caters to him.  How sad.&lt;br&gt;Should Obama become the President and doesn&#039;t fulfill all these promises he states he is going to do, then what, we will have more sniffles accross the USA and wanting him OUT, but will have to wait another 4 yrs like we had to with the Bush adminstration.  I don&#039;t believe the USA could with stand this.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If Hillary isn&#039;t on the ballot I will not vote for Obama, I will not vote for McCain either, I will cast it to the wind if I have to, but I will not give it to them.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I support Hillary Clinton .. hang in there girl.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hillary has been given bad media from race to gender, and anything else the media can toss in.  I strongly believe that this shows how poorly our country conducts themselves.</p>
<p>Then we hear from another peanut gallary former President Carter.  GEE! and what did he do for this country? </p>
<p>Since the media played the &#8220;race and gender&#8221; card to the hilt.</p>
<p>I keep asking myself, that if we Hillary was a black female running against Obama, would this be happening? Doubt it, the media wouldnt touch that with a 10 foot pole.  But she isn&#39;t a black female, she is who she is, and once again it shows just how hard it is for any female to compete and have the respect .<br />Our country hasn&#39;t moved forward at all, it&#39;s a mess.<br />Obama  just isn&#39;t ready and if if the people of the USA would just look with better eyes, and stop playing into the smoke and mirror game they would see that she does make more sense then Obama.  He has been giving great lip service to everyone, and the media caters to him.  How sad.<br />Should Obama become the President and doesn&#39;t fulfill all these promises he states he is going to do, then what, we will have more sniffles accross the USA and wanting him OUT, but will have to wait another 4 yrs like we had to with the Bush adminstration.  I don&#39;t believe the USA could with stand this.</p>
<p>If Hillary isn&#39;t on the ballot I will not vote for Obama, I will not vote for McCain either, I will cast it to the wind if I have to, but I will not give it to them.</p>
<p>I support Hillary Clinton .. hang in there girl.</p>
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		<title>By: Ginny_in_CO</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 20:25:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;“If you notice, there hasn’t been a lot of publicity on these polls I just told you about,” Clinton said. “It is the first time you’ve heard it? Why do you think that is? Why do you think? Don’t you think if the polls were the reverse and he was winning the electoral college against Sen. McCain and Hillary was losing it, it would be blasted on every television station? You would know it wouldn’t you?&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;HUH??  Bill are you totally ignorant of how the MSM works - especially since you signed the telecom bill that let them coalesce into larger, more corporate entities?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Guilty conscience?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;For several months I have just been countering comments about the Clintons with &quot;A lot of us were NOT happy with Bill and his stupid squandering of the position he was elected to. We would be very happy not to have him any where near the WH&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;From blowing health care reform because of the control attitude, to losing the power of the bully pulpit due to his philandering,  I can&#039;t think of what they accomplished without thinking of what they undermined (Glass - Steagle) and what they had to abandon due to the constant barage of negative attacks- which caused  Bill to follow in Gary Hart&#039;s failed footsteps.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What kills me is that they kept talking about her being &#039;vetted&#039; and that Barack would end up being trashed as soon as the GOP got ahold of him. That nothing new could be dug up on Hill. Well she managed to generate new ammo. And as many of us anticipated, the old stuff has just been brought out to be recycled ad nauseum.. It&#039;s like what we found out with the swiftboaters; you can refute, disprove, and defend til you are blue- the people who want to believe the lies will not be persuaded.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Hillary has not been treated any worse than she has treated others - over the years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;“If you notice, there hasn’t been a lot of publicity on these polls I just told you about,” Clinton said. “It is the first time you’ve heard it? Why do you think that is? Why do you think? Don’t you think if the polls were the reverse and he was winning the electoral college against Sen. McCain and Hillary was losing it, it would be blasted on every television station? You would know it wouldn’t you?&#8221;</p>
<p>HUH??  Bill are you totally ignorant of how the MSM works &#8211; especially since you signed the telecom bill that let them coalesce into larger, more corporate entities?</p>
<p>Guilty conscience?</p>
<p>For several months I have just been countering comments about the Clintons with &#8220;A lot of us were NOT happy with Bill and his stupid squandering of the position he was elected to. We would be very happy not to have him any where near the WH&#8221;</p>
<p>From blowing health care reform because of the control attitude, to losing the power of the bully pulpit due to his philandering,  I can&#39;t think of what they accomplished without thinking of what they undermined (Glass &#8211; Steagle) and what they had to abandon due to the constant barage of negative attacks- which caused  Bill to follow in Gary Hart&#39;s failed footsteps.</p>
<p>What kills me is that they kept talking about her being &#39;vetted&#39; and that Barack would end up being trashed as soon as the GOP got ahold of him. That nothing new could be dug up on Hill. Well she managed to generate new ammo. And as many of us anticipated, the old stuff has just been brought out to be recycled ad nauseum.. It&#39;s like what we found out with the swiftboaters; you can refute, disprove, and defend til you are blue- the people who want to believe the lies will not be persuaded.</p>
<p>Hillary has not been treated any worse than she has treated others &#8211; over the years.</p>
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		<title>By: StockBoySF</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 18:52:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe that either Hill or Obama would win in Nov.  So Bill is right about Hill winning if she is nominated.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As far as her being treated disrespectfully- perhaps some, but I think all the candidates are treated disrespectfully at times.  I think Obama is showing a great deal of respect for her by sticking up for her and her right to remain in the race.  I can&#039;t help but wonder if she would do the same for him if their roles were reversed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe that either Hill or Obama would win in Nov.  So Bill is right about Hill winning if she is nominated.</p>
<p>As far as her being treated disrespectfully- perhaps some, but I think all the candidates are treated disrespectfully at times.  I think Obama is showing a great deal of respect for her by sticking up for her and her right to remain in the race.  I can&#39;t help but wonder if she would do the same for him if their roles were reversed.</p>
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		<title>By: Stoft</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stoft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 18:23:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Think it was a slip? Same slip 4 times?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;Four days after ABC polled that 59% of Americans feared for Obama&#039;s safety, Hillary started talking assassination. &lt;br&gt;Hard to believe, &lt;br&gt;but this site has the facts and sources: &lt;a href=&quot;http://zfacts.com&quot;&gt;http://zfacts.com&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Think it was a slip? Same slip 4 times?</b><br />Four days after ABC polled that 59% of Americans feared for Obama&#39;s safety, Hillary started talking assassination. <br />Hard to believe, <br />but this site has the facts and sources: <a href="http://zfacts.com">http://zfacts.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: elen</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 18:15:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When Billy Boy was talking out of the other side of his mouth (when his wife still looked like a candidate that might win) he sanctimoniously pontificated :  &quot;If you can&#039;t take the heat, get out of the kitchen.&quot;    Follow your own bromides, whinger.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Billy Boy was talking out of the other side of his mouth (when his wife still looked like a candidate that might win) he sanctimoniously pontificated :  &#8220;If you can&#39;t take the heat, get out of the kitchen.&#8221;    Follow your own bromides, whinger.</p>
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